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Steve Forbes Says Perry Has 'Chance to Move Up'
NewsMax ^ | December 7, 2011 | Hiram Reisner

Posted on 12/07/2011 3:30:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Publisher Steve Forbes says he has no trepidation in backing Rick Perry for president, despite his low poll numbers, because the presidential race remains “fluid.” Forbes — who ran for president twice himself — also told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Tuesday that he has no trouble with Perry’s occasional gaffes, as the Texas governor comes “across much better in person.”

“I think this race has proved it is a very fluid situation and already Newt Gingrich is starting to get some of the flak that every temporary front-runner seems to get,” Forbes said. “So I think this is going to be a long contest and I think Rick Perry has an excellent chance to move up to the middle between [Mitt] Romney and what’s happening with Newt Gingrich.

“So I don’t think this thing is over at all — it is very volatile,” he said. “I think the real sparks are still yet to come in January and February.”

Blitzer asked whether Perry’s “so-called brain freeze” and other gaffes have had any impact on Forbes’ early decision to back the Texas governor.

“No, I’ve known Rick Perry since over 10 years ago when he first became governor and put in some excellent reforms to their legal system in Texas — especially against tort lawyers,” Forbes said. “And so he’s much better — came across much better in person than he did in those early debates....

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: gingrich; perry; polls; steveforbes
Comments?
1 posted on 12/07/2011 3:30:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Steve Forbes Says Perry Has ‘Chance to Move Up’

“Comments?”

Two:

1.Snowball.
2.Hell.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 3:33:38 PM PST by jessduntno ("I love the man. I think he's a neat man." - Sen. Tom Coburn (R) about B. Hussein Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Forbes wants Perry to wound Gingrich in Iowa so Romney can have a bigger victory in Newt Hampshire.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 3:34:11 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (1/3/2012-Iowa 1/10-Newt Hampshire 1/21-South Carolina 1/31-Florida)
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To: jessduntno

Three comments:

1. NO
2. WAY
3. OOOPS


4 posted on 12/07/2011 3:34:40 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there is somebody who knows something about winning a political campaign, it’s Steve Forbes........


5 posted on 12/07/2011 3:34:56 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope he’s right. Perry is a strong constitutional conservative and I would love to see him move up to challenge Mitt and Newt—especially Mitt, but I don’t think he will draw from Mitt’s supporters.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 3:35:07 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

7 posted on 12/07/2011 3:37:42 PM PST by Chasaway ( Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone. But. Romney.

Forbes is right, it’s still fluid. Newt was and is a volatile personality that could blow himself at any moment.

When Perry faded, his supporters did not go to Mittens, when Cain was lynched, his supporters did not go to Mittens. If Newt implodes, his supporters will not go to Mittens. See the trend here.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 3:38:54 PM PST by Valpal1 (Worst tyranny is to force a man to pay for what he does not want because you think it good for him.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why does everyone always suspect a Pro-Romney conspiracy where there is none?

Forbes endorsed Perry a long time back, and seems to be sticking with it.

Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with Romney or the suddenly-conservative hero Newt.


9 posted on 12/07/2011 3:41:10 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are 3 candidates to choose from. Perry, Mitt and Newt.

Conservative voters must do a checklist of their own beliefs and match them against the candidates.

Many don't like Newt because of his infidelity and insider dealings.

Many don't like Mitt because he's Mormon and a flip flopping liberal.

Many don't like Perry because he is bad in debates and because of in state tuition for illegals.

Time to weigh the candidates positives.

I believe Perry is the best based on record of achievement in Texas.

I believe he also is closest to my beliefs in limited government and solutions coming from local power.

I also know he is more reliable on the 2nd Amendment, life, spending.

10 posted on 12/07/2011 3:42:27 PM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go President Perry!

And—0 is a permanent brain freeze.


11 posted on 12/07/2011 3:44:24 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! Vote Economic Freedom. Vote third party¬ó we keep 0Mao. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perry will get a second look when people realize that Newt is a bad idea.

Perry has cash, is a good retail politician, and is known for his good ground game in TX, all of which will play to his advantage in Iowa.


12 posted on 12/07/2011 3:45:13 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since it is a statistical impossibility for him to move much further down in the polls, he can only move up in the polls.
13 posted on 12/07/2011 3:48:35 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: Chasaway

This is what kills me. I see it all the time here on FR. Most of the people here that are claiming that Newt will “obliterate” Obama in a debate, conveniently forget that the media will never allow that to happen.

And I wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve read a FReeper post that says they would be happy to vote for Bachmann, Perry or Santorum if they end of being the nominee - but it just “doesn’t look like that’s going to happen”.

This is what I don’t get...if conservatives would line up behind the 3 most conservative candidates - then maybe they wouldn’t be behind in the polls!

A lot of FReepers that are currently cheerleading for Big Government Newt - I’ve seen them pin their hopes and dreams on Palin first - then they invested heavy emotions into Cain - and NOW they are hard-at-it right now, trying to convince us conservatives that are sticking by conservative candidates...trying to convince us that Newt is the only one who can win.

Way to be fickle people! So many of you keep letting the media and the polls tell you who to support - you’ve already given up! You’re like puppets on a string being yanked back and forth by the media. Isn’t the primary the time to stick to your principles?


14 posted on 12/07/2011 3:50:03 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: normy

I respect your opinions but with all do respect.....

please scroll down

Perry is a big loser...In fact, he reminds me of Shemp of the 3 Stooges...


15 posted on 12/07/2011 3:57:30 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: alicewonders

I’ve come to the conclusion that Zero will never agree to a debate with anyone who has real debate skills. This means a debate with Newt will never happen. Zero would debate Perry though and since Perry’s debate performance expectations are nil all he would have to do to break even is not faint and fall off the stage. Anything better would constitute a win.


16 posted on 12/07/2011 4:00:03 PM PST by Bobalu (even Jesus knew the poor would always be with us)
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To: alicewonders

Here’s how I feel.

When all is said and done, we will have a candidate....

Then we rally around that person... All of us...Palin, Trump, Rush, Hannity etc etc...

That’s how it’s done.

Each one of our candidates are fine people and can beat Obama...

Do you agree?


17 posted on 12/07/2011 4:00:58 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He better start coming back soon, if he is going to charge into the lead.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 4:08:40 PM PST by pallis
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To: Bobalu
Zero would debate Perry though and since Perry’s debate performance expectations are nil all he would have to do to break even is not faint and fall off the stage.

That's a very good point. I think Obama would tend to underestimate Perry, and leave an opening where Perry can remind us of HIS record of success - compared to Zero's abject record.

19 posted on 12/07/2011 4:09:22 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: nikos1121
Each one of our candidates are fine people and can beat Obama...

I do agree with that - so why are so many conservatives supporting a big statist like Newt Gingrich? Isn't this the time to put our weight behind a small government conservative? Why settle for anything less at this point?

20 posted on 12/07/2011 4:13:20 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good chance they’ll dig up something to knock Newt out of the running.
Mitt and Huntsman are not well liked. Many will not vote for a Mormon.
Backman and Santorum are too controversial.
Paul hasn’t a Chinaman’s chance

HANG IN THERE, RICK!!!!


21 posted on 12/07/2011 4:15:26 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go Rick Go!


22 posted on 12/07/2011 4:16:16 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: nikos1121
The problem with your assessment is that Perry has never lost, ever.

He also has the very best record of anyone running both on the social side and the economic side.

He is the only one with a recent record of achievement accomplished during the Obama reign that he can actually match up, point for point against Obama.

Rick Perry is by far the best candidate. He's also never lost an election and he wont lose this one.

Newt has had 3 wives and multiple affairs and has had ethics problems which drives down our base.

He is not a stalwart on any of the base issues that drive Republicans to the polls.

Mitt has a better chance at beating Obama than Newt. Perry has the best chance.

23 posted on 12/07/2011 4:17:16 PM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: alicewonders
I'd rather have Perry than Newt or Romney, but if Perry gets the nod I do wish he would run on his record, not on the results of a MSM land-mined debate. There is no way a conservative, even a gifted orator like Newt (and he is that if nothing else)can win when the opposition gets to make all the rules and ask the questions. It is foolish to grant them the forum to make our candidate look stupid. Most people who watch the debates just do so to see how their candidate does against the opposition. I really don't think debates can change their minds unless there is a real “gotcha” which is what the MSM will try to provide to benefit Obama.
24 posted on 12/07/2011 4:40:56 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: normy

OK, so we all know Perry sucks at debates. Not the best but not the end of the world.

Romney and Huntsman won’t even be considered. Bachmann and Santorum are both excellent in their positions but suffer from other flaws that really hamper them.

Gingrich sounds great in the debates, but when you got him in conversation he says really stupid and not conservative stuff.

Then there’s Perry. Not the happiest with his immigration record and some other minor issues, but on budget, jobs, regulations and a number of others there are significant positives.

Now that Cain is out, got to admit that I feel more comfortable with Perry than the rest.


25 posted on 12/07/2011 4:46:28 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll say this:

If Governor Perry gets the chance, he’ll eat Obama alive.

Governor Perry knows what he believes and is centered in that.

Obama is a political animal (and not really all that great at that) and says what he thinks works best for him. He’ll come across as pandering and PC. Governor Perry will come across as centered and believable. Because he is.

I would LOVE to see those two go toe-to-toe. The Texan would open up a can of whoop-ass on the Chicago boy.

There’s no love lost there.......


26 posted on 12/07/2011 4:47:36 PM PST by Chasaway ( Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Free Vulcan
Of the 3 remaining (and I really believe Newt is not viable in the long run). Perry is our man, and once you get past the debate performance and to the subject of ideas, he creams the competition.

Even my brother, a Romney supporter called me after Perry's part time Congress idea and gushed about it. It would transform the power structure in DC. Perry has all the ideas and the will to get them done.

27 posted on 12/07/2011 4:52:12 PM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Perry is the only one that has a record he can run on, instead of running away from.


28 posted on 12/07/2011 4:56:57 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Presidential races often come down to who is the more personable. Certainly Perry comes across as personable. More so than Gingrich. Much more so than Romney.


29 posted on 12/07/2011 5:05:33 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Convince me that Perry has the intellect required for the job.


30 posted on 12/07/2011 7:27:27 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are your thoughts, comments?


31 posted on 12/07/2011 11:25:34 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Better Governor Perry than Gov. Romney, Rep. Paul or Gov. Huntsman. I also find Rep. Bachmann unqualified due to her lack of executive experience and lack of judgement and Senator Santorum only slightly better. Is that what you mean?


32 posted on 12/07/2011 11:37:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes. I thank you for your ping and your remarks. We'll see how it plays out in the coming weeks and months ahead.

Have you read this speech?

Dec 7, 2011:TRANSCRIPT: Remarks By Rick Perry At Republican Jewish Coalition Forum

It's clear and direct.

33 posted on 12/07/2011 11:51:39 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Forbes wants Perry to wound Gingrich in Iowa so Romney can have a bigger victory in Newt Hampshire.

Palin was for Forbes in 1996.

Forbes was not for Romney in 2008.

Forbes is for neither Romney nor Gingrich in 2012. This should not be surprising to anyone with even a minor command of the facts.

So, if you're Steve Forbes, with a magazine and residue of cred to your name, whom do you support in 2012?

I was for the guy who turned out to be the Godfather of bimbo eruptions. So, now I need to recalibrate.

If Bachmann can make it, she has my vote. If Perry can make it, I'll vote for him. If Ron catches on, what the hell, he has my vote. Hell, even if Huntsman ...

If Gingrich is the nominee, he'll have my enthusiastic support! But fasten your seatbelts, folks, for a Gingrich Administration!

But, God forbid, the plastic, fake, phony Romney!

34 posted on 12/08/2011 12:05:14 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

If you want to throw daggers with “This should not be surprising to anyone with even a minor command of the facts.”

Then you should not be wasting my time replying about Bachmann, Perry or Paul winning the nomination. Because if YOU had even a minor command of the facts then you would see they blew their chances - LoL!


35 posted on 12/08/2011 1:18:26 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (1/3/2012-Iowa 1/10-Newt Hampshire 1/21-South Carolina 1/31-Florida)
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