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Georgia Tea Parties' Police Targets GOP
WeArePolitics ^ | 12/13/2011 | Charles Jackson

Posted on 12/13/2011 5:38:55 AM PST by Billlknowles

A few years ago, I was an early, enthusiastic supporter of the Tea Party movement. Its essential belief in limited government and individual freedom form the core of conservative principles. The group's message of low taxes, deficit reduction and fidelity to the Constitution resonated with me.

However, my Tea Partying days are over.

The shot gun wedding between the Tea Party and the Republican Party after the 2010 midterm election has been consummated. It definitely wasn't a match made in heaven.

Unelected Tea Party police chieftains are calling the shots. They demand acquiescence to their agenda and intimidate Republican officeholders adhere to it or face a primary challenge.

The Tea Party purist police - with their rigid ideological orthodoxy - presume to know who's a "true" conservative. Now various Tea Party groups, most notably the State of Georgia Tea Party, wants to purge the GOP ranks of heretics.

Tea Party groups around Georgia are mobilizing to challenge Republican state elected officials they’ve deemed RINOs - Republicans In Name Only

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TOPICS: Georgia; Issues; State and Local
KEYWORDS: davidralston; teaparty

1 posted on 12/13/2011 5:39:06 AM PST by Billlknowles
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To: Billlknowles

Seems to me that the tea party has been co-opted into the GOP.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 5:44:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Billlknowles
Now various Tea Party groups, most notably the State of Georgia Tea Party, wants to purge the GOP ranks of heretics.

I hope the purge is true and is happening.

Hey, the RINO's are free to form there own moderate party if they want. But I would prefer that the RINOS' buck and support the Conservatives, RINO's have no place to go.

3 posted on 12/13/2011 5:45:39 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Billlknowles

>> The Tea Party purist police - with their rigid ideological orthodoxy - presume to know who’s a “true” conservative.

We have plenty of those right here on FR.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 5:46:30 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles
His sin? Ralston supports a regional transportation sales tax referendum and that's “fiscally irresponsible.”
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It seems to me that the Tea Party is doing its job. Good for them.

The article doesn't state it but I bet that “regional transportation” could be solved though private means with a single penny of tax money.

5 posted on 12/13/2011 5:49:08 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Agreed.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 5:49:32 AM PST by GOP_Harley_Guy
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To: Nervous Tick
We have plenty of those right here on FR.

So what does your comment mean? Does Jim Robinson make it clear what FreeRepublic's vision of conservatism means? You have a problem?

7 posted on 12/13/2011 5:50:36 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“We have plenty of those right here on FR.”

Yes indeedy! ....unfortunately.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 5:53:18 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: central_va

Why, yes, I **do** have a problem.

Please allow me to illustrate.

Is Newt Gingrich “conservative enough” for you, Oh Great Arbiter Of Conservativism? Oh Divine Keeper Of The Conservative Flame, please impart your wisdom upon me and answer this question.


9 posted on 12/13/2011 5:54:37 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles

So Mr. Jackson likes liberals. If he doesn’t quit the Tea Party, I hope they throw him out.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 5:59:59 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Billlknowles

The Georgia Republican party is full of RINOs. The current governor and previous governor were at one time a Democrat.


11 posted on 12/13/2011 6:01:44 AM PST by Dacula
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To: Nervous Tick

Newt may not be perfect but he’s about the best chance we got from the choices left. Too bag Perry couldn’t debate. He might have had a chance. But it’s too late now baby.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 6:01:44 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: McGruff

Yeah, Perry and Gingrich are my picks too — in that order.

Perry would make the best president of the two (IMHO) — unfortunately he makes a lousy *candidate* for POTUS. :-( So for me, it looks like Gingrich at this point.

But these two are often disparaged by those self-appointed Keepers Of The True Conservative Flame as not being “conservative enough” — which is my point, actually.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 6:05:48 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles

The author sounds miffed that the Tea Party’s messin’ with the GOP establishment’s fun and games.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 6:06:20 AM PST by Nickname
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To: central_va; Nervous Tick

>> So what does your comment mean? Does Jim Robinson make it clear what FreeRepublic’s vision of conservatism means? You have a problem >>

Wow, in addition to being a shameless attempt to polish the teachers apple - that misses a couple huge points:

A: JR allows for much dissent from his version of conservatism to go on freely on FR.
B: JR’s version includes a full throated support of Newt - which I’m betting CVA missed.

And man oh man, what a brown noser.....


15 posted on 12/13/2011 6:09:00 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Nervous Tick
Is Newt Gingrich “conservative enough” for you,

No.

“Real Chance: From the World That Fails to the World That Works”

Conservatives cannot cheer unions overseas and then be blindly anti-union here at home. There are legitimate historic reasons for workers to organize together, and there is a strong need for a healthy, competitive, union, movement that helps improve the lives of its members and the competitiveness of our country.

Andy Stern, the head of the Service Employees International Union, is the union leader who probably best understands the challenge of the world market and the need to make American union members productive in the face of world competition. Sadly, he is a distinct minority among union leaders.


-Newt Gingrich
16 posted on 12/13/2011 6:13:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Nervous Tick

That is pure bs. It’s people like you who want to stir up trouble. Now we have the word purist. Oh what fun. You know as well as anyone what conservative means and if you don’t want America to make it; leave.


17 posted on 12/13/2011 6:14:07 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Dacula; kitkat

From the article:

“My Tea-Partying days are over” and “The Tea Party’s a malignant Achilles’ heel on the body of the Republican Party, to wit:”Achilles’ heel is a deadly weakness in spite of overall strength, that can actually or potentially lead to downfall.”

Translation: I am a career Republican Party Hack who is tired of dealing with citizens who do not look at elected Republican politicians as owning “their seats”. I do not want to have to work primary campaigns once my boss is elected to office and somebody challenges him from within the Republican Party.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 6:15:45 AM PST by ngat
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To: freekitty

>> It’s people like you who want to stir up trouble.

“People like me” in what way?


19 posted on 12/13/2011 6:21:34 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles
Rinos like Romney are the Benedict Arnolds of 2012. They must be dealt with FIRST before we go into battle with our HONESTLY DECLARED enemies.

God bless the Sons of Liberty !

20 posted on 12/13/2011 6:21:54 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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Squishy, big government republicans want to give in to the leftists, because they think that if they do, they'll get invited to all the right cocktail parties and be labeled "mavericks" by the leftist media. It annoys them that they actually have to let those unwashed "tea partiers" into their party to get elected. How dare they demand that those elected using tea party rhetoric actually be true to their word!

Mark

21 posted on 12/13/2011 6:25:29 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; central_va

>> And man oh man, what a brown noser.....

LOL! And what’s worse, a *misguided* brown noser.


22 posted on 12/13/2011 6:25:34 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: wintertime
"Regional Transportation" is a euphemism for public transportation.

Tyrants love public transport, electric cars, and the heavy funding taxes that force the masses to use them....One wiff of a revolt and SWITCH, we can't move.

23 posted on 12/13/2011 6:25:38 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SENTINEL

>> Rinos like Romney are the Benedict Arnolds of 2012.

Romney, check. Couldn’t agree more.

Now: who are the OTHER “Rinos like Romney” on your list?


24 posted on 12/13/2011 6:27:16 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Not for my primary vote.....ABO in the general


25 posted on 12/13/2011 6:33:11 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Nervous Tick
Princess Murkowski, Karl Rove, John McCain etc.

A conservative is one who conserves the constitution. Principle dictates....and mine may differ from yours, but in the end, I have one voice and one vote and I intend to steer them right, come hell or high water.

26 posted on 12/13/2011 6:44:06 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SENTINEL

>> Princess Murkowski, Karl Rove, John McCain

Agreed.


27 posted on 12/13/2011 6:51:44 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles
Unelected Tea Party police chieftains are calling the shots. They demand acquiescence to their agenda and intimidate Republican officeholders adhere to it or face a primary challenge.

Sounds fair. Play along or face a Primary. We do get to have a say in things don't we?
28 posted on 12/13/2011 6:57:07 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Saying a lot of people on FR are purists. Making statements like that. How about people who believe in the Constitution? How about people who believe in America and its people?


29 posted on 12/13/2011 7:04:36 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

>> Saying a lot of people on FR are purists. Making statements like that.

They’re TRUE statements. Are you saying I shouldn’t speak the truth here? Why not?

>> How about people who believe in the Constitution?

How about them? They’re wonderful. But are you insinuating that YOU are one of those and that I am NOT one of those? If so, support your premise with evidence.

>> How about people who believe in America and its people?

How about them? They’re wonderful. But are you insinuating that YOU are one of those and that I am NOT one of those? If so, support your premise with evidence.


30 posted on 12/13/2011 7:12:19 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Billlknowles

“They demand acquiescence to their agenda and intimidate Republican officeholders adhere to it or face a primary challenge.”

OH NOES!!!!! This is SERIES and HUGH!!!! We can’t have congress-critters thinking that they might have to ACTUALLY represent those who hired them!!!


31 posted on 12/13/2011 7:20:48 AM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Dacula

The two present senators are as rino as they get!


32 posted on 12/13/2011 7:32:52 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Billlknowles
Tea Party groups around Georgia are mobilizing to challenge Republican state elected officials they’ve deemed RINOs - Republicans In Name Only

The author says this like it's a bad thing. I think it's a good thing.

33 posted on 12/13/2011 7:38:01 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Billlknowles

I disagree, in that the Republicans effort to co-opt the Tea Party is grabbing a fistful of water. The Tea Party are individuals, not a group of chattel that can be bought or sold.

I’ll likewise add that this is *demonstrated* by individuals in the Tea Party attacking just about every Republican contender. And I’ll put this down to “Holding their feet to the fire”.

The individuals in the Tea Party have been burned too many times FOR DECADES, to trust the Republican party AT ALL, when it comes to carrying out the Tea Party agenda.

Because the Republican party WILL NOT carry out the Tea Party agenda. Only INDIVIDUAL Republicans may try to do so.

And the Tea Party agenda, by the way, IS NOT a fixed set of goals, but an overall *philosophy* of how government is *supposed* to be run.

And *this* is what the Republicans find most objectionable about the Tea Party. They loathe having “core values” in which they can’t haggle and deal make with their political opponents. They much prefer hugs and kisses with the liberals, and at best inertia, NOT opposition to the liberal agenda.

Remember the Contract With America? It was extremely popular for a few, simple reasons:

1) It presented clear, concise goals.

2) It did not waffle, or place reservations on these goals.

3) It was realistic, promising only a vote, not a win.

4) It was objective, so that those who signed on either kept their promise, or cheated and broke their promise.

And even at the time, many Republicans refused to sign on, because they hated every aspect of the honesty found in the document.

So what is the Tea Party doing right now?

Self appointed “leaders” can bloviate all they want, because they control nothing. They cannot muster a vote *for* a candidate. But they *can* persuade other Tea Party members to *not* support a candidate.

And this is an important, even vital thing to do.

The individuals within the Tea Party know that our nation has been about brought to ruin by liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans, and that there is NO crystal clear, unimpeachable voice for conservatism in ANY of the current crop of candidates.

So yes, the best the Tea Party can do right now is refuse to accept the Republican parties’ *default* RINO candidate instead of a conservative. Truthfully the RINOs would prefer a liberal Democrat as president to a Republican conservative, which shows you how godforsaken they are.

And the RINOs perpetual message is horribly wrong. They keep insisting that a conservative candidate *cannot ever* win, so all candidates *must* be “big tent” liberals or moderates.

But they are dead wrong in this. Each and every time a real conservative runs for office, unless they are downright crazy, they win, against both liberal Republicans and liberal Democrats.

America WANTS conservatives in political office, from state legislators all the way up to the office of the presidency. And only the RINOs, and their “Beltway bandits”, truly stand in the way of this happening.

And, of course, Republican liberals pretending to be conservatives, who get nominated to be the Republican candidate for president.

We’ve had to endure the failure of Bob Dole, selected for us, and the utter turkey John McCain, selected for us, so NO MORE.

Either candidates promise to embrace the Tea Party philosophy as part of their core values, or the heck with them. The time for pragmatism, “crossing the aisle”, wheeling and dealing with scoundrels, and bending the knee for disreputable lobbyists is OVER.


34 posted on 12/13/2011 7:38:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Nervous Tick
It’s people like you who want to stir up trouble. “People like me” in what way?

Apparently people like you (and me) who don't bow down to the latest left wing republican candidates. We "stir up trouble" by presenting embarrassing facts like Newt's shameless ass-kissing of Pelosi on the Globull warming fraud or Newt's anti-gun record, or Newt's personal lack of integrity, etc. How dare we question what our betters in the Republican establishment have decided for us.

35 posted on 12/13/2011 7:44:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: cripplecreek

“Tea Party groups around Georgia are mobilizing to challenge Republican state elected officials they’ve deemed RINOs - Republicans In Name Only”

There’s a reason for what is happening. Case in point our new GA 7th District US Congressman Rob Woodall. Heck of a nice guy, great personality. We just elected him in 2010 and he will just tell you all day long how conservative he is. We have been to two of his townhalls. At the last one we attended I stood up and made the comment that the Super Committee was unconstitutional and why in the world would he ever vote to waive his own congressional power much less agree to raise the debt ceiling for basically no corresponding spending cuts. He assured me that the Super committee was indeed constitutional and that he had total confidence that they would come to an agreement on cutting $1.2 trillion since is was such a low bar to get over. Well we all know how that has turned out.

In addition he has sent us all a newsletter and made a video of him on the floor of the House of Representatives talking about finding common ground. There is no common ground with the Dems at this point in history. What a waste of time. This guy has only been in the Congress for a year and he is already totally co-opted by the GOP elite leadership. Boehner tells him how to vote and he does it. So yes we need to do some house cleaning and thank God the Tea Party is keeping an eye on these worthless fecks.


36 posted on 12/13/2011 9:31:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Seems like a lot of them are trying to lead us back on to the grand old plantation.

A few weeks back a county GOP chair from the other side of the state showed up at our little informal tea party breakfast at a local cafe.

At first he seemed OK, talking about over regulation and taxation but then he started going off the rails. He was whining about the unfair redistricting that pushed a good “conservative” influence out of our district. (Former congressman Joe “We can’t abort them fast enough” Schwarz). He complained that “extremist” candidates like Michele Bachmann were killing the party. He said our little group needed some structure with contact lists, phone numbers etc.

Some phone calls were made to official tea party groups on his side of the state and they said the guy is a sleazeball who had done everything from making threats to trying to insert his own people into their tea party groups.


37 posted on 12/13/2011 9:47:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

Its going to take constant vigilance to purge the RINO’s and keep them out. We are not voting for Woodall next year. Hopefully the Tea Party will up a candidate to try t primary him. Otherwise we will vote for the Libertarian.


38 posted on 12/13/2011 9:57:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Nervous Tick
LOL! And what’s worse, a *misguided* brown noser.

Since you didn't answer the question, what part of FR vision of conservatism you disagree with, I must assume you are too cowardly to put it on record.

So it is probably better to have a brown nose than a yellow streak running down one's back.

39 posted on 12/13/2011 10:49:31 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I agree with all of it, there, “knob-polisher”. Say, how’s it smell from that location down there on your knees? LOL!


40 posted on 12/13/2011 11:35:00 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick
I agree with all of it, there, “knob-polisher”. Say, how’s it smell from that location down there on your knees? LOL!

If agreeing with Jim Robinson's views on conservatism makes someone a brown noser then there are a lot of Freepers with that problem. It is amazing how you throw insults without answering the question. But a coward you remain. Maybe you should go to the FR home page and review. So when you grow a pair and can address what specific part of Free Republic's version of conservatism you disagree with then you will always be known as Snow Peas to me.

41 posted on 12/13/2011 11:42:47 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You must have some serious self-esteem issues — you sure have a lot invested in “proving” your relative worth and manhood here on this A-N-O-N-Y-M-O-U-S forum! ROFLMAO!

You’re really a piece of work. You might want to seek help.


42 posted on 12/13/2011 12:11:58 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I am just flat tired of hearing about what’s wrong the people here at FR. It’s the trolls and pretenders that come in here like they know something and start do harm intentionally.


43 posted on 12/13/2011 1:27:41 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nervous Tick

We should be united; not divided.


44 posted on 12/13/2011 1:28:21 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

>> I am just flat tired of hearing about what’s wrong the people here at FR...We should be united; not divided.

OK. Peace, and FRegards


45 posted on 12/13/2011 2:47:44 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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