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After Iowa caucuses, GOP elites seek 'consensus' candidate
The Politico ^ | 1-4-12 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 01/04/2012 5:57:46 PM PST by bigbob

A group of movement conservatives has called an emergency meeting in Texas next weekend to find a “consensus” Republican presidential hopeful, POLITICO has learned.

“You and your spouse are cordially invited to a private meeting with national conservative leaders of faith at the ranch of Paul and Nancy Pressler near Brenham, Texas, with the purpose of attempting to unite and to come to a consensus on which Republican presidential candidate or candidates to support, or which not to support,” read an invitation that is making its way into in-boxes Wednesday morning.

The meeting is being hosted by such prominent conservative figures as James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family; Don Wildmon, onetime chairman of the American Family Association; and Gary Bauer, himself a former presidential candidate.

Many of the individuals on the host list attended a previous closed-door session with Rick Perry this summer. But Perry’s candidacy stalled out, though he’s pledged to take his campaign on to South Carolina despite a disappointing fifth-place finish in Iowa.

Movement conservatives are concerned that a vote split between Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum among base voters could enable Mitt Romney to grab the GOP nomination. A source who shared the invitation said the meeting was about how to avoid such a possibility.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; consensus; conservatives; loserromney; martin4romney; politico4romney; pollutico; pollutico4romney; romney; saboteurromney; spoilerromney
Very interesting...whatever it takes to get a real conservative candidate works for me. You?
1 posted on 01/04/2012 5:57:58 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Santorum POTUS, Gingrich VP


2 posted on 01/04/2012 6:06:12 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: bigbob

They kind of missed the whole individual vote thing didn’t they.

Personally, I’m terrified at all the conservatives trying to play politics with this thing. This is our last chance to save this country and everyone’s acting like a bunch of children.

I want whoever can step up and be an adult. I don’t appreciate any Republican bashing another because we are only hurting ourselves.

Bash Obama dammit! If anyone should be damaged from our primaries it should be Obama. I truly believe that the candidate who quits playing the Republican establishment games and wholeheartedly and passionately goes after Obama can and will win.

That also eliminates Romney without wasting our time and money since he can’t really go after Obama. He has too much in common with him.

Anyway, sorry to be so long-winded but I am seriously worried by all the venom being directed at our own both by the candidates and on the boards and blogs. Let’s get our heads in the game.

To paraphrase Clinton’s mantra: It’s Obama, Stupid!


3 posted on 01/04/2012 6:10:40 PM PST by Kenny
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To: bigbob
I'd find it a lot more interesting if there were some identifiable Tea Partiers among the chosen few. The list so far looks like a superannuated gathering of the Class of '84.
4 posted on 01/04/2012 6:12:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: bigbob

If some of them were Perry supporters and they are now shopping for another candidate, can we presume that Perry is not going to emerge as the consensus?

That leaves Santorum and Gingrich which would set up a three-way race between Romney, Paul and the Consensus Conservative.


5 posted on 01/04/2012 6:15:22 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: bigbob

Right now any of the candidates running except Romney, Paul and Huntsman would get my vote. Only for Santorum would I NOT have to place vise grips on my nose.


6 posted on 01/04/2012 6:16:33 PM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’ve been saying the same thing for a long time. Why isnt there any tea party favorite or newcomers? It’s all retreads.

Interesting because it goes completely against the strategy in 2010 where the Tea Party challenged moderates in the primaries. Yet in the biggest primary of them all...the tea party seems to be sitting it out.


7 posted on 01/04/2012 6:18:27 PM PST by floridarunner01
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To: bigbob

It’s just a simple fact of numbers that we need to coalesce around a single conservative in order to beat Romney. As long as even two conservatives are in it, Romney will win. I’m good with a smoke-filled room at this point, if we come out of it with the single conservative named, locked and loaded.

P.S. This is a role the Tea Party shoud have taken on a year ago, in my opinion—an internal nominating mechanism by which the sanctioned conservative is picked, funded and supported to the exclusion of any and all interlopers. I know it’s rough and tumble but that’s the game. Look at how Romney and the Demoviks play. Moral high ground? There ain’t much of that.


8 posted on 01/04/2012 6:19:18 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Kenny

I tend to agree, we get too caught up in who’s going to win the primary when the most important battle is coming in November against Obama.


9 posted on 01/04/2012 6:20:01 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

I am very suspicious of any group of political people who describe themselves as “of faith”.


10 posted on 01/04/2012 6:23:41 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: bigbob

It’s just a simple fact of numbers that we need to coalesce around a single conservative in order to beat Romney. As long as even two conservatives are in it, Romney will win. I’m good with a smoke-filled room at this point, if we come out of it with the single conservative named, locked and loaded.

P.S. This is a role the Tea Party should have taken on a year ago, in my opinion—an internal nominating mechanism by which the sanctioned conservative is picked, funded and supported to the exclusion of any and all interlopers. I know it’s rough and tumble but that’s the game. Look at how Romney and the Demoviks play. Moral high ground? There ain’t much of that.


11 posted on 01/04/2012 6:24:10 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Grunthor

Agree with you

Right now Hannity is running mitten’s McCain infomercial on Fox !
Disgusting !


12 posted on 01/04/2012 6:26:33 PM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: bigbob
I got your consensus right here


13 posted on 01/04/2012 6:27:23 PM PST by Fred (No Job No Home No Food No Problem - Obama 2012)
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To: bigbob

The battle right now is with Mitt Rino and then take on the real enemy.

Pray for America


14 posted on 01/04/2012 6:28:39 PM PST by bray (Ride Santorum back to Sanity)
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To: bigbob
I'm dubious about the merits of this "smoke-filled room." Moreover, I think it's premature. I say let the voters have a say it it for a while.

One of the big problems with the Republicans here in Ohio is that they have this fear of a contested primary. They claim it uses up money that will be needed in the general election. So the Party leadership selects a candidate for each office, actively discouraging any competition. The Party members are presented with a candidate they had no choice in nominating, and have very little interest in supporting.

I'm all for contested primaries. They bring out the voters, and they give the candidates a chance to showcase themselves.

15 posted on 01/04/2012 6:30:25 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: bigbob

Well, my reservation is that when these guys get together, more often than not they pick the wrong candidate. They already had one meeting with Rick Perry. How’d that work out?

My preference is for Sarah Palin. Or, failing that, Rick Santorum. But who knows what these guys will pick?

As for the Tea Party, it’s a real grass-roots movement, all right. But, for better or worse, it’s not unified. Choosing a caucus of trusted leaders to choose a candidate would be hard, and it’s probably a bit late to start such a process.


16 posted on 01/04/2012 6:35:06 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bigbob
So the meeting's in Brenham? What possibly might be the attraction there?


17 posted on 01/04/2012 6:39:08 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: bigbob

I see about a 25% chance that Romney is cutting a deal explaining to Santorum that he should be Mitt’s VP since Santorum can’t win NH. Santorum might be made to see that almost every other candidate has been on top and he should strike a deal before he folds and Mitt offers the same deal to Ron Paul.


18 posted on 01/04/2012 6:40:42 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks bigbob.
Movement conservatives are concerned that a vote split between Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum among base voters could enable Mitt Romney to grab the GOP nomination.
I'm not.


19 posted on 01/04/2012 6:41:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: bigbob

Non-story. There are groups all over America getting together to decide whom to support and they are all picking different candidates. This group is not special.


20 posted on 01/04/2012 6:44:43 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: bigbob

Non-story. There are groups all over America getting together to decide whom to support and they are all picking different candidates. This group is not special.


21 posted on 01/04/2012 6:45:02 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: bigbob

Who’s going to bell the Newt?

I can just see a pack of RINOs visiting him somewhere to tell him that he needs to stop fussing around and get behind Mitt.

Actually, I’d love to see that.

Newt’s reaction is likely to be interesting.


22 posted on 01/04/2012 6:48:29 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: bigbob

I remember reading of a papal conclave (where the cardinals gather to elect a pope.) Several rounds of votes could not produce a candidate acceptable to a majority. Then, in from the cold, and a great distance North, stumbled among them a monk, a religious ordinary, who simply felt called to visit Rome. Everyone recognized he was a good man, and no-one had reason to object to him. So they made him pope.

I wonder if Santorum’s kinda like that guy.


23 posted on 01/04/2012 6:51:40 PM PST by dangus
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To: bigbob

I prefer clarity instead of consensus. With clarity, people can clearly see a difference. If the best that the GOP has to offer is “Me too” or “Like that but not as much” then we are doomed to fail.


24 posted on 01/04/2012 6:53:26 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: bigbob

Judge Pressler has been a leader in the Southern Baptist denomination for many years. These are godly men I trust to seek God’s wisdom. I hope they can come up with a good plan, because we need one IMO.


25 posted on 01/04/2012 6:53:26 PM PST by TropicanaRose
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To: Ronin

They will do that to Newt after they’re done destroying Santorum.


26 posted on 01/04/2012 6:56:10 PM PST by pankot
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To: PaleoBob
It’s just a simple fact of numbers that we need to coalesce around a single conservative in order to beat Romney.

I am going to go out on a limb here, since this opinion probably isn't popular on FR...

We need an R in the White House as a result of the 2012 elections, plain and simple. Having an R in the White House removes not only a pathetic leader, but removes an obstacle (read veto) to real conservative changes.

Personally, other than Ron Paul, I don't care who wins, as long as they win. With an R in the White House, a conservative controlled House, and hopefully an R Senate (a conservative Senate would be better but but I don't want to get ahead of myself here), the whole dynamic changes.

It is past time that we hold the House and Senate to task, and through them the President. Between the two houses of Congress all control lies. It's time to stop thinking we need a king in Oval Office. We need to restore power to the Legislature as the Constitution intended.

Conservatives real fight should be the House and Senate. An R, any R (except maybe Ron Paul) in the White House helps our cause if we can get conservatives elected to the legislature.

Even though I don't like Ron Paul for President, I think he would make a great Treasury Secretary...

27 posted on 01/04/2012 7:07:26 PM PST by !1776!
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To: ez

Yes, it is a non-story. I know some of the people involved, and their influence won’t make much of a difference in the primaries, largely because they are retired from the positions and pursuits that make their names recognizable.


28 posted on 01/04/2012 7:10:04 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Kenny
How do you think Ronald Reagan was elected? I'll give you a clue, Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority. In other words, a consensus candidate.
29 posted on 01/04/2012 7:49:31 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Kenny

They kind of missed the whole individual vote thing didn’t they.


Those pesky peasants!!! Voting in ways which thwart our GOP establishment goals....ughhhh!!!


30 posted on 01/04/2012 7:50:43 PM PST by ak267
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To: hinckley buzzard

The ‘84 group put Ronald Reagan in the White House and made a Conservative out of me. Whatever it takes.


31 posted on 01/04/2012 7:52:24 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Jim Noble
This is a group of great people who love this country, and want to see it return to the “faith” of our fathers.

They have been around a long time and were instrumental in getting Ronald Reagan elected POTUS.

32 posted on 01/04/2012 7:57:28 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: re_nortex

I had rather have Brum’s!


33 posted on 01/04/2012 8:00:15 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Kenny
"I want whoever can step up and be an adult"

You're both correct and insightful.

This is just more "top-down" crap trying to be a newer or bigger power in the GOP establishment.

Only through concerted resistance can this model be broken.

It will take a consensus leader at the top of the field as well. So far that leader has not emerged.

34 posted on 01/04/2012 8:05:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bigbob

I’d rather have a leader than a consensus builder since a consensus is the lack of leadership.


35 posted on 01/04/2012 8:14:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PaleoBob

Your first point is one I have been trying to make for a while.
On the other hand, a solid Tea Party consensus candidate a year ago might have been solidly destroyed by now.


36 posted on 01/04/2012 8:57:26 PM PST by Apogee
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To: bigbob; Jim Robinson

Thanks for this thread.

HEY! When all y’all “Consensus Conservative Cowards” get your fill of beer and bar-b-que, ask each other if y’all are “playing not to loose?” In football or politics, it is the best known way to lose as a coward. (McCain, Dole, Ford, etc.)

BTW, clue time: “both” political parties are spendaholics, “both” political parties have given your grandchildren a 15 Trillion dollar debt; the Mighty-est Government in the World can be shut down by just three people: Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader, and whoever the flavor of the day POTUS is.

We need a proven warrior with a titanium spine to lead us out of THE VALLEY OF DEBT! Forget about “broadening the base!” We need a problem solver who will cut BASELINE spending, year to year, by the US Federal Government. Hint: This is the main issue of the campaign, and no candidate has the guts to say it.

In my humble, but ALWAYS correct opinion, it is better to try to FINALLY solve the problem, than to “play not to lose” and get the usual, incompetent, clueless, Bipartisan Cave-In RINO.

NO MORE RINOs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy your meaningless “consensus picnic” while nearly 80 years of Bipartisan Cave In to Socialism by “both” parties will crush our once noble Republic. When? Ah, don’t worry, the Chinese are known for patience, well let’s hope so!


37 posted on 01/04/2012 9:52:09 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: bray

Romney is the enemy. Romney and Obama are cut from the same big government cloth.


38 posted on 01/05/2012 12:02:29 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: Apogee

On the other hand, a solid Tea Party consensus candidate a year ago might have been solidly destroyed by now.


Possibly but it’s gonna happen in any case at some point. The LSM, the Demovik hacks and the Chicago thugs know no other way. Our own vetting process needs to account for the inevitable hits.


39 posted on 01/05/2012 7:16:38 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: bigbob
The meeting is being hosted by such prominent conservative figures as James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family; Don Wildmon, onetime chairman of the American Family Association; and Gary Bauer, himself a former presidential candidate.

I never really considered these people "the Republican Elite". IMHO, the real Republican Elite back Romney and could care less about conservative/religious issues.

40 posted on 01/05/2012 7:50:55 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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