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Newt delivers potentially game-changing performance
The Daily Caller ^ | January 17, 2012 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 01/17/2012 1:17:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

If former House Speaker Newt Gingrich does the impossible and somehow defeats Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination, analysts will look back and say the upset was sparked Monday night at the Myrtle Beach Convention Center.

The knowledgeable, rhetorically gifted Newt Gingrich conservatives love showed up at the Fox News/Wall Street Journal debate and shook the house. Instead of shining by attacking Romney, he thrived by battling his old antagonists: the “elite” media and Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Asked by debate co-moderator Juan Williams whether he could understand why his comments that “black Americans should demand jobs not food stamps” and that “poor kids lack a strong work ethnic” and perhaps should “work as janitors in their schools” were insulting to Americans — especially African-Americans — Gingrich dismissed the notion out of hand.

“No, I don’t see that,” he said bluntly to wild applause.

“New York City pays their janitors an absurd amount of money because of the union. You could take one janitor and hire 30-some kids to work in the school for the price of one janitor, and those 30 kids would be a lot less likely to drop out,” the former House Speaker said.

“They would actually have money in their pocket. They would learn to show up for work. They could do light janitorial duty. They could work in the cafeteria. They could work in the front-office. They could work in the library. They would be getting money which is a good thing if you’re poor. Only the elites despise earning money.”

Williams followed up by asking Gingrich to respond to emails that suggested Gingrich intended to “belittle the poor and racial minorities” with his words.

“Well first of all, Juan, the fact is that more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in American history,” Gingrich responded to more cheers.

“Now I know among the politically correct you’re not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable. Second, you’re the one who earlier raised a key point: The area that ought to be I-73 was called by Barack Obama a corridor of shame because of unemployment. Has it improved in three years? No. They haven’t built a road, they haven’t helped the people, they haven’t done anything.”

“So here’s my point,” he concluded. “I believe every American of every background has been endowed by their creator with the right to pursue happiness. And if that makes liberals unhappy, I am going to continue to find ways to help poor people learn how to get a job, learn how to get a better job, and learn some day to own the job.”

The crowd again erupted, rewarding what sounded more like a sermon than a debate answer with what pollster Frank Luntz later said was the first standing ovation he had ever witnessed during a presidential debate.


TOPICS: South Carolina; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: gingrich; juanwilliams; newt; obama; romney; ronpaul; southcarolina
Why is it supposedly "impossible" to beat Milt? Only two small states have voted so far! It seems that Senator Santorum may have won Iowa, not Milt!!
1 posted on 01/17/2012 1:17:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt and Perry had a good night. Perry, with what few questions he had, was fantastic. I expect a Perry and Newt boost after this. I’m personally hoping Perry surges over Newt.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 1:20:40 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some will say Newt hit it out of the park at the Myrtle Beach Convention Center. I will say it was the first debate in history that a candidate hit it into orbit! Obama must be in the fetal position and clicking his heels together in fear that Newt may be the one facing him.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 1:28:12 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46

You paint a lovely picture. LOL


4 posted on 01/17/2012 1:40:06 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (99 weeks = associates degree)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/user/GOPDebates?feature=watch


5 posted on 01/17/2012 1:54:04 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
". . . They would be getting money which is a good thing if you’re poor. Only the elites despise earning money.”
American Beliefs by John McElroy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1385564/posts
England (it wasn't Great Britain until later) found in the portion of North America which it was able to claim nothing but stone-age people and forests. The land was rich and had tremendous agricultural potential but wasn't farmland until it had been laboriously cleared of trees and vines. The English colonists found that gentlemen were pretty useless; what the situation cried out for was farmers. So England sent over poor people - some, including some of my ancestors, came from Lutheran Germany - and so the American polity was dominated by practical people (even if they often had religious motivations for wanting to come, still they learned that the situation required diligent work).

The conclusion is that Americans respect any honest work. If you reflect on English costume drama, you will realize that we didn't get that attitude from England - where the emphasis was on who you were rather than what you did - but in the American melieu where people were respected because they were useful, and were respected for the caluses on their hands.


6 posted on 01/17/2012 2:25:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

unlike anyone else in the race Newt would make Obama look like an ill informed slap downed punk in a debate


7 posted on 01/17/2012 2:32:17 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why was Juan Williams allowed to “moderate” a GOP debate?


8 posted on 01/17/2012 2:36:39 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
De boss said, "Juan, go out into those fields and do you some ho'ing."
He say, "Yuh suh, yuh suh, I ain't leaving dis plantation."
9 posted on 01/17/2012 3:37:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt kicked butt, I love it


10 posted on 01/17/2012 3:41:03 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Should be interesting listening to the know it alls like Rush and hannity and Laura Ingraham.


11 posted on 01/17/2012 3:44:37 AM PST by Post5203 (Newter 0bama)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Juan Williams was shown to be a racist pandering fool when he kept pounding on Newt that “blacks are disproportionately affected”, and about the demeaning character of Newt’s saying those poor who want to live off others should get entry level jobs and develop a work ethic. I especially liked his equating the 99 weeks of un-employment funding as a waste, and saying it was the period that could get an Associates Degree, with that money in the same time period. He was on top of his game all night.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 3:46:32 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2; Reaganite Republican
>> unlike anyone else in the race Newt would make Obama look like an ill informed slap downed punk in a debate

>> Newt kicked butt, I love it

I AGREE! NEWT KICKED BUTT!!! woo-hoo!

Best in debate against Obama?

Best in debate against Obama?

A majority of Americans think Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich would fare best in a head-to-head television debate against President Barack Obama. In a Poll Position national scientific telephone survey, 54% said Gingrich would give Obama the best debate, 20% thought Mitt Romney would do the best. All other GOP candidates received single digit votes when asked how they would fare against Obama in a TV debate.

13 posted on 01/17/2012 3:47:49 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Timber Rattler
Why was Juan Williams allowed to “moderate” a GOP debate?

It might be because someone thought Williams' slap down by PBS gave him conservative creds.

14 posted on 01/17/2012 3:54:16 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Future Useless Eater
That looks fairly accurate. There is absolutely nothing Obama (even with a teleprompter) could do against Gingrich. It would be a slaughter.
15 posted on 01/17/2012 3:55:55 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tip for you, Rush...if you’re looking for something to “Right on, right on, right on!” about; Newt has graciously provided you with several very juicy soundbites.


16 posted on 01/17/2012 3:56:23 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: traditional1

Regarding why blacks were “disproportionately” represented among the incarcerated, the elephant in the room was that they commit more crime than any other ethnic group. Even stating this fact usually brands one as a racist, but one hopes, not on FR.


17 posted on 01/17/2012 4:00:02 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Great post. I’m a Perry backer, because I want to see his accomplishments implemented in all states, but I will vote for Newt with bells on because he’s studied Perry’s resume and goals and will probably also implement most of them.


18 posted on 01/17/2012 4:00:12 AM PST by txhurl (EVERYONE is losing their virginity in this election. -Marty60)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Bambino was hitting them to all fields last night!!!!!! EVery time Newt speaks it's a teaching moment.
19 posted on 01/17/2012 4:05:05 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Apollo5600

Our news report depicted the debate as a big nothing with no clear winner.


20 posted on 01/17/2012 4:36:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess if Newt had said these young kids should go out and get paid to be a community organizer instead of a janitor, that would have been okay. And deemd racially sensitive...


21 posted on 01/17/2012 4:36:34 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Well, if you consider it, drug dealers and pimps ARE community organizers, in a roundabout way..... :)


22 posted on 01/17/2012 4:39:51 AM PST by txhurl (EVERYONE is losing their virginity in this election. -Marty60)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would it be insulting to say that the kids can work as janitors?

In fact, the janitor himself must have children of his own who’d be offended that Juan suggests this. THAT is elitist BS!

Work is work. You have to begin somewhere and if you are not skilled, you begin with unskilled tasks. You then continue your education and get a better job...etc.

Juan if full of s%$#!! I’m glad Newt smacked him down.


23 posted on 01/17/2012 4:45:42 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Jamie....“poor kids lack a strong work ethnic”
You might want to proofread your article before it goes to print. Words have meaning.


24 posted on 01/17/2012 4:48:30 AM PST by Fireone (Building the gallows, this one has two nooses.)
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To: SMARTY
I'm surprized that the Newt haters are not swarming this thread yet. They are usually on early, with the regular rhetoric about “3 divorces”, Nancy on the couch, blah, blah, blah......

And not one bit of that energy is spent on attacking Romney. Hell, even Santorum deserves to be vetted far more viciously for his past moderate Senate record, than Newt has.

25 posted on 01/17/2012 4:53:43 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: jonrick46

I thought it was good how Newt bitch-slapped Juan when he said that his own daughter’s first job was doing janitorial work.

People like Juan are the reason MLK’s “dream” never came true. MLK (allegedly) wanted all people to be seen as equals with no regard to color. As long as these whiny racists like Juan are stirring the pot, that will never happen. They’re creating the problem, not solving it.


26 posted on 01/17/2012 4:55:57 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: jonrick46

[[sigh]] Yes, Newt’s debate performance was spectacular — and it usually is — but, while I would love to see him verbally puncture the Narcissist-in-Chief, passionate rhetoric is not enough to qualify one for the presidency.


27 posted on 01/17/2012 5:03:07 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Bambino was hitting them to all fields last night!!!!!! EVery time Newt speaks it's a teaching moment.
28 posted on 01/17/2012 5:03:34 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I’ve been mistified for a while about this murmuring campaign that Mitt is, of course, the only possible nominee. He wasn’t of any interest in 2008, when McCain somehow (somehow) became the GOP choice. What has Mitt done in the last four years to effect such a transformation?


29 posted on 01/17/2012 5:54:25 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: nikos1121

When a history professor tags you with a title, he knows it will stick. Newt called him a “Food Stamp President”.
Ouch! n/s


30 posted on 01/17/2012 5:56:47 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: txhurl
Well, if you consider it, drug dealers and pimps ARE community organizers, in a roundabout way..... :)

And they are earning money!

31 posted on 01/17/2012 5:58:42 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent news. Mr. Gingrich is our last, best hope to defeat Mitt Romney.


32 posted on 01/17/2012 6:03:13 AM PST by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: cameraeye

Listening to Bill Bennett on the way to work. He has that shrill on there, Ann Coulter. Three months ago i adored her, now I abhor her.

He asks a question regarding liberal bias in moderators or some such thing, and she weaves the answer to knock Newt!
Bennett points this out.

She calls Newt The Joe Palouka of the debates. A guy who talks the talk, but doesn’t walk the walk. A trucker calls and tells her that he’s tired of establishment conservatives like her, she talks for almost 6 minutes on why she jumped in two months or more ago fro Romney.

the she talked the more I thought to myself, that this a no nothing biased person beyond belief.

There is no doubt in my mind that she didn’t here newt speak at all last night.


33 posted on 01/17/2012 6:10:59 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am not a Newt fan. I'll take him over Mitt anyway, and in fact believe that Newt is our only chance at this point. I have to say that aside from mopping the floor with Obama during a debate, I believe Newt is the best candidate to end the black entitlement syndrome. He consistently says what everyone else thinks but won't dare say because they don't want to be politically incorrect. IOW, not only should Obama fear Newt, the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Van Jones and Cornel West should fear him as well; he could put them out of the race baiting business.
34 posted on 01/17/2012 6:15:18 AM PST by liberalh8ter (I don't like what the world has become....)
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To: nikos1121

She never married. But she’s no spinster, just a amateur at life. Life means marriage.


35 posted on 01/17/2012 6:23:00 AM PST by bvw
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To: luvbach1
"blacks were “disproportionately” represented among the incarcerated, the elephant in the room was that they commit more crime than any other ethnic group"

Exactly, but the attempt is to justify the criminal statistic as "racial profiling causes more of them to be prosecuted", when, in fact, if it weren't for their crime over-whelming the court system (usually, on the public dime with "appointed" attorneys they can't afford), and the allowance of Plea Bargaining, there would be even MORE blacks in jail.

Newt did well combatting Juan Williams assault (playing the Race Card), and made him look like a fool. I wish he would have made the "work for welfare" argument, and see what Williams would have said, then. Others on the group didn't take up the fight, either, afraid to lose the black vote (which they won't get, anyway).

36 posted on 01/17/2012 6:27:50 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1
Newt did well combating Juan Williams assault (playing the Race Card), and made him look like a fool.

The typical mealy-mouthed response would have been to accept Williams' false premise and pledge to fight to correct it.

37 posted on 01/17/2012 6:39:41 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: luvbach1
Right now, I think that Newt is the best man for the job.

He wasn't my first choice, but I think that he's the best we've got.

When was I convinced? When Juan Williams asked him that loaded, race-baiting question. 99 out of 100 pols would have squirmed like a puppy who just peed on the rug, and fallen all over themselved to apologize, or at least "Clarify what they meant" in a long-winded, rambling answer.

Newt didn't. He stood behind what he said with a simple, "Nope. I said it and I meant it." A politician with a spine? How refreshing.

So long as he doesn't screw it up - which is always a good bet, Republicans are always shooting themselves in the foot - I think that we saw the next president in that moment last night.

38 posted on 01/17/2012 7:07:33 AM PST by wbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt did an outstanding job last night.


39 posted on 01/17/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Well said. On the day of MLK’s birthday, the rhetoric from the so-called leaders did everything to promote racial division. Everything I heard sounded like stuff one would hear in the 60s. It is like they want the strife to continue without end, even if they have to look under a rock for racism.

I see skin color as God’s paint job. I don’t want God to stir up the paint color and use one tint. I celebrate the difference. Because I pick a green one instead of another color does not make me racist.


40 posted on 01/17/2012 9:27:27 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: wbill

“A politician with a spine? How refreshing. So long as he doesn’t screw it up”

If Newt is the nominee, I pray that he’ll continue with this type of strong performance in debates with Hussein. Doubtful that there’ll even be debates with Hussein, since there’s no way that addlebrained, ignorant, jug-eared doofus will consent to even one. Also, if there is a debate, Hussein has in his pocket those who’ll be preparing the questions. It could get ugly.

Sadly, I think the fix is in for Romney by RNC, etc., and we’re already screwed when it comes to our candidate.


41 posted on 01/17/2012 9:45:55 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

“Ignorant jug-eared doofus” is about the most apt description of BO that I’ve heard. Can I steal it from you?


42 posted on 01/17/2012 10:13:48 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

Steal away, Friend!


43 posted on 01/17/2012 10:20:10 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: wbill

Yes, Newt is the best qualified to be president and the best debater. But if he’s the nominee he will have to demolish, not just defeat, 0bummer to overcome his (Newt’s) past demonization and the money, lies, and vote fraud that will be thrown against him.

Up to now I’ve thought better to win with Romney than lose with Newt. But Newt may catch fire, and not just with conservative Republicans.


44 posted on 01/17/2012 10:51:23 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Also, if there is a debate, Hussein has in his pocket those who’ll be preparing the questions.

It wouldn't matter, as Newt proved in dealing with race-obsessed Juan Williams; that being the case, I think you're right that the jug-eared, long-legged mack daddy is unlikely to consent to a single debate let alone a series.

45 posted on 01/17/2012 10:59:16 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: SMARTY

With Juan, everyone has to carry a briefcase to work, even if it contains burglary tools.


46 posted on 01/17/2012 11:02:21 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: nikos1121

I suspect she, in the past, hit on Newt and he blew her off.

Payback.


47 posted on 01/18/2012 1:04:42 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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