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Deep South abandons Dems
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | January 22, 2012 | Salena Zito

Posted on 01/23/2012 2:56:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

PROSPERITY, S.C. - Erik Grantham walked out of Stable Steak House on Main Street, through a door hand-painted in bright yellow with "Jesus is the reason."

"I have not been home in months," he said, leaning against his truck as if to emphasize his exhaustion. "I am a welder, but there is no work at home, so I travel, going from job to job across the state."

Dressed in stained overalls and sipping a Coke, he said he would not be home for Saturday's Republican primary. He hopes to be there for November's election, to make his voice heard.

"I guess you could call me a 'yellow-dog Democrat,' just always vote that way," he said, puffing a cigarette before flicking it artfully across the street.

Yet he will not vote for President Obama or any other Democrat again: "I voted for him the last time because that is my party. It is not anymore."

Grantham, 47, reflects the once-proud Southern white Democrats that the party began bleeding in 1948 during a convention battle between civil-righters and Dixiecrat states'-righters. The Republican Party really didn't capitalize on that until 1952, when Dwight Eisenhower won some Southern states.

Richard Nixon developed the strategy of competing in the Deep South -- then, typically barren land for Republicans. While his results were mixed, his brilliant move marked the start of the South turning on Democrats.

"As a new generation developed, the people who were conservative Democrats and Dixiecrats mostly became Republicans," explained Bert Rockman, Purdue University political science professor.

"There were momentary revivals for the Democrats -- in 1976 with Jimmy Carter and 1992 with Bill Clinton -- but the die had been cast."

In 2008, Democrats enjoyed a bit of a turnaround as minorities and highly educated whites supported Obama...

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; economy; obama; zito
If even the blacks are turing on him, which I have long suspected was happening, he's toast, as is his party.
1 posted on 01/23/2012 2:56:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t want ‘em. Don’t need ‘em.


2 posted on 01/23/2012 3:09:04 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If even the blacks are turning on him, which I have long suspected was happening, he’s toast, as is his party.


If that is true then this next year and the transition between the this and the next administration will be a most dangerous time. I believe that the Narcissist is very willing to burn down the house, (so to say). If he can’t have it nobody can.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 3:16:33 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do not understand our pundits that say that “x” can not beat Obumbo...Savage being one.

I also monitor Rasmussen and see no great change over the
past year.
What I see is that the blacks will stay in the camp, along
with the radical left and illegal voters.
The Marxist MSM is also in a full court press to save the
black messiah.

By the way, I am listening to the Jamie Glazov YouTube as I type this post. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kO7IVl4-JFw

I am convinced that four more years of the Commie will destroy America.


4 posted on 01/23/2012 3:18:31 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I live in an 85% black apartment complex. The thrill is gone, as BB King would say.


5 posted on 01/23/2012 3:24:48 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: The Working Man

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


6 posted on 01/23/2012 3:25:39 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They all didn’t get that Obama Money like they were promised...


7 posted on 01/23/2012 3:28:13 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Hahahaha! They all ASSUME I’m on Section 8 like they are. I’m starting to think I’m one of the few who actually pays his own rent here. Very friendly to me, but then again, I’m 6 feet tall and 350 lbs. LOL


8 posted on 01/23/2012 3:34:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I live in an 85% black apartment complex. The thrill is gone, as BB King would say.”
_________________________________________

That is encouraging, but I have not seen that as I lurk on the idiotic Topix forums.
The young neo-Marxist still act as if they adore him.
Since I have been an expat since 99, I never see blacks.

By the way, since you mention BB...I gave a French girlfriend the thrill of her life one night as she was visiting me in Memphis. (1998?)
I took her in the back door of BB King’s small night club
on Beale St.
BB, unexpectedly showed up that night to play, along with his small instrumental group. We were standing right at the front of the stage not more then 6 ft. from him.


9 posted on 01/23/2012 4:01:38 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I got to see him at a small club in Indianapolis while going to school at the Defense Information Center at Ft Ben Harrison (now gone) back in 1981. He poured sugar into his Coke. Even I don’t go that far!


10 posted on 01/23/2012 4:36:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the thrill is indeed gone it is largely irrelevant on how they will vote in November.

Black voters will always vote for a black politician over a white one. They will vote for Obama 95 percent or better this election just like they did in the last one with their racist block vote.

The thrill has been gone for many decades in Detroit and yet they still keep electing the same corrupt leftist black pols there.

BTW, I hope you can find a bullet proof vest to fit your 6ft 5 frame while living in that apt complex. You will need it especially if you are white.


11 posted on 01/23/2012 4:40:19 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If even the blacks are turing on him, which I have long suspected was happening, he’s toast, as is his party.....If even the blacks are turDing on him, which I have long suspected was happening, he’s toast, as is his party. There, corrected your typo.


12 posted on 01/23/2012 4:43:54 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If even the blacks are turing on him, which I have long suspected was happening, he's toast, as is his party.

So far we have zero evidence that blacks are turning on him. I'll believe it when it materializes at the only poll that counts.

13 posted on 01/23/2012 5:07:31 AM PST by stevem
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To: stevem
As I said earlier, I live amongst them. Attitudes have changed radically in the last two years, and these are the welfare recipients and low wage working people. The bumper stickers have been removed, the t-shirts are gone and when his name comes up, people shake their heads and try and change the subject. Anecdotal, of course.
14 posted on 01/23/2012 5:11:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Uncle Lonny

If I have anything to say about it, I won’t be living here in November.


15 posted on 01/23/2012 5:13:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeffersonian and Jacksonian Democrats favored the common man’s influence on government; both supported states’ rights and strongly warned against federal intrusion into states’ affairs.

Sounds like conservatives to me!?


16 posted on 01/23/2012 5:25:06 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Uncle Lonny

Maybe, but you won’t see nearly the turnout among the minority democratic leaning voters that you saw in 2008, then!


17 posted on 01/23/2012 5:27:02 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

Neither President Jackson nor President Jefferson could be called Democrats. They were in what was called the Democratic-Republican Party, which is as far from today’s Dems as it is possible to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party


18 posted on 01/23/2012 5:29:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO, any sense that the black voters lack the enthusiasm of 2008 is just the normal cycle of the modern attention span, which isn’t very durable. But when the billion dollar Obama campaign machine gets cranked up over the summer and into the fall, with the rabid enthusiasm of the media behind it, the black community and Obama’s other predictable constituencies will be energized by a non-stop wall of propaganda largely based on racism and mythology. The race card will create a sense that the black community must vote to defend Obama against white haters and gun-clingers and the mythology will give the rest of the Obama zombies their mantra about what a great president this utter failure is. You can think of the race card the way it was used in the OJ case: a panel of jurors with overwhelming evidence of brutal murder refused to believe their own eyes. Obama’s voters are quite capable of the same.


19 posted on 01/23/2012 5:29:08 AM PST by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In 2008, Democrats enjoyed a bit of a turnaround as minorities and highly educated whites supported Obama...

"Highly educated whites" = code for academics and others who derive much of their income from government grants, employment, or contracts. The Democrat party has become the party of people dependent upon government for one reason or another, while the Republican party is the party of the non-union private sector.

The Republican strategy from now on should be to starve the public sector as much as possible.

20 posted on 01/23/2012 5:39:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next...

How Connecticut, once the Republican center of the country, with its defense industry and home to many Wall Street bankers and brokers, became a liberal hell-hole welfare state with some of the most crime-ridden cities and where Joe Lieberman is considered too conservative.


21 posted on 01/23/2012 6:04:42 AM PST by kidd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The I wonder what "false flag" event the administration has cooked up for us over the late summer months in order to stay in power? A war with Iran? Start a war in Syria? Start people shooting at Israel?

Think about it...

22 posted on 01/23/2012 6:10:41 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well...that explains the diabetes.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 6:16:19 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111
Do you really think a war with Iran would get people to vote for Mr. Obama, rather than against? One of the many reason Senator McCain was defeated in 2008 was that so many voters had turned against the seemingly interminable Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.
24 posted on 01/23/2012 6:17:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The question is, does Obama think a war with Iran will get people to vote for him?


25 posted on 01/23/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: Mountain Troll
The question is, does Obama think a war with Iran will get people to vote for him?

He came in as an anti-war candidate and now has flipped. He was pro-war in Libya, and is now looking for wars or peace with the Taliban to position himself as a successful war candidate.

Joe Biden let it slip when he said "taliban is not our enemy per se". They are positioning themselves for an end to the wars by declaring peace with the Taliban.

The Trouble is that the Taliban (Al Queda) fighters love that kind of deception. They love that President Obama gave them a time table to resume fighting.

Only a Lamestream Press would let them get away with it.

26 posted on 01/23/2012 6:56:26 AM PST by sr4402
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"attitudes have changed"

I'd like to believe you, I'll still expect Obama to get over ninety percent from African-Americans in November. Things might change for other ethnic groups, like Hispanics, but overall Obama will probably lose little support from those two groups. Most Blacks still believe in Big Government and the myth that if government doesn't subsidize much of the Black population, they can't make it on their own. Non-Cuban Hispanics vote Dem because they believe, rightly, that Dems in power will mean more Hispanics entering the U.S....legally and illegally.

27 posted on 01/23/2012 7:00:58 AM PST by driftless2
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To: JewishRighter
"campaign machine"

That's the way I see it for the most part. The fact is the two largest ethnic groups population-wise, Blacks and Hispanics, who support Obama the strongest are the most ignorant. As evidenced by Jay Leno's streewalking interviews, many Americans have a dim idea what's going on in the U.S.... politically and with current-events. The most ignorant are undoubtedly Dem voters. They'll believe anything. They'd probably still believe it was Bush's fault almost four years after he's been out of office.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 7:07:40 AM PST by driftless2
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To: JewishRighter

I agree. When the race is finally condensed down to a black face vs a white face, blacks are going to start taking the entire election personally. They are dormant now but if we see youth mob violence pick up in the Spring and then escalate throughout the Summer, we will know the intent of the black community.


29 posted on 01/23/2012 7:08:21 AM PST by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh the party will live on, but it will take it at least 2 4 year cycles to begin recovery... and at least 4-6 4 year cycles to remotely fully recover or longer. Folks in their 40’s and 50’s now are the ones really being destroyed by this guys policies, and they are not likely to forget it anytime soon, and when they begin to retire they will not only remember how horrible the democrats screwed the pooch, but will also be the most important voting block in the nation.

The party won’t die, but its will be paying the price for putting up this clod for decades, and all of us will be paying the price dealing with his failures for decades as well, Egypt is now going to be a radical state, and Libya will go from a state with a contained nutjob leader back into a rogue islamic militant nation, as it looks like Iraq is on the path to as well thanks to his inability to negotiate a continuation of oversight.

The world is a far less safe place today than it was before this bufoon took office, and will be for at least 20 years.


30 posted on 01/23/2012 7:10:27 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: AlexW
By the way, since you mention BB...I gave a French girlfriend the thrill of her life one night as she was visiting me in Memphis. (1998?) I took her in the back door of BB King’s small night club......

Good for you, giving that girl the thrill of her life! Oh, and I hope she enjoyed the show, too! ; )

31 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:27 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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