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Can Sarah Palin get ’er done? Pros disagree
The Boston Herald ^ | February 17, 2012 | Erin Smith

Posted on 02/17/2012 5:15:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The prospect of a brokered Republican convention has reared its head — with the re-emergence of conservative lightning rod Sarah Palin as a GOP savior — as the controversial Alaskan said she’d be willing to “help” if her party can’t choose a nominee ahead of the August rubber- stamp event.

But even with the rollicking Republican primary roller coaster looking more like a trainwreck, political experts and players are split over the likelihood of a late-summer nailbiter.

Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics.com said that if the current trend of stark regional divides continues — with Mitt Romney taking more moderate states, Newt Gingrich taking southern states and Rick Santorum taking the conservative heartland — it could go all the way to the convention without a clear winner, as the Democrats narrowly avoided doing in 2008. And disgruntled delegates rebeling against a Romney candidacy could tip the balance for a right-leaning star. Enter Palin.

Who are those people going to gravitate towards if they can’t get Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum? Will they pick Sarah Palin? It’s very possible,” Trende said.

Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential pick, told Fox News that if the primary turmoil drags on, “all bets are off as to who will be willing to offer themselves up in the name of service to their country. I would do whatever I could to help.”

But a brokered convention is as likely as a “space alien attack,” the Republican National Committee’s Sean Spicer told The Washington Times.

But Trende estimates the likelihood at 10 to 15 percent, “which is not nothing,” he said. Brokered conventions were last widely used in the first half of the 20th century, before the 24-hour news cycle, Trende said. Spicer noted that the last candidate chosen that way was Thomas Dewey in 1948 — 64 years ago.

“No one really knows what a brokered convention looks like in modern times,” Trende said. “If no one has enough delegates, you’ll probably see Sarah Palin walking around the floor of the convention trying to get support. And you’ll have party brokers who want it to go to Mitch Daniels or Paul Ryan. My personal opinion is it will be a mess.”


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1 posted on 02/17/2012 5:15:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go, Sarah!


2 posted on 02/17/2012 5:20:32 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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3 posted on 02/17/2012 5:21:29 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is the space alien guy the same guy who was pimping Jeb Bush?


4 posted on 02/17/2012 5:33:57 PM PST by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forgetaboutit, dude!


5 posted on 02/17/2012 5:36:41 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If some of the GOP insiders in PA know what they are talking about, a brokered convention is not going to happen.
Word around Pittsburg is that the GOP E has already brokered a deal between Santorum and Romney.

As far as the GOP is concerned, the only thing the primaries are deciding is who is going to take the top of the ticket.

Sickening.


6 posted on 02/17/2012 5:44:47 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

Do you think you might give us a link instead of hearsay?

You should back up what you claim with fact.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 5:50:35 PM PST by dforest
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To: conservativejoy

Deal between Gingrich Palin trumps your Romney Santorum. Romney’s house of cards about to implode. Santorum of limited appeal and about to be bombed.


8 posted on 02/17/2012 6:01:27 PM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: LALALAW; conservativejoy
................Deal between Gingrich Palin trumps your Romney Santorum.........

Would have to agree with that. A Gingrich/Palin ticket is the only way to get out of this entire mess.

9 posted on 02/17/2012 6:07:19 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: dforest

I posted my conversation on another thread. I spoke to my best friend today, who went back to PA about a month ago. Her husband is gravely ill, so we haven’t discussed much about politics for several months.

My friend’s family are staunch conservatives, from a family whose property deeds were signed by William Penn, so they’ve been around a while. Needless to say, they know the movers and shakers in the Pittsburg area, and their son has worked on several GOP campaigns.

I was surprised to hear that they were going to vote for Romney, until they heard about this. I won’t go into all the reasons they don’t like Santorum, but I got an earful.

That is my source, and I don’t ask anyone to accept it, but it would be good to keep an ear to the ground.

It was reported that Friess, the billionaire supporting Santorum, was asked by Greta if Santorum would consider Romney as a VP. I didn’t hear the interview, but maybe another Freeper did. Friess reportedly said that could be a definite possibility (something to that effect), which makes sense, since he Friess supported Romeny in 2008. So did Santorum.


10 posted on 02/17/2012 6:09:00 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: Irish Eyes

That would indeed be a dream come true.

If Gingrich can get enough delegates to deny Santorum/Romney what they need for a combined ticket, that would an answer to prayer.


11 posted on 02/17/2012 6:12:51 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pros disagree

Where I come from, a Pro's a whore.

12 posted on 02/17/2012 6:17:35 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: conservativejoy

That is hearsay. Before saying this kind of thing and spreading it, you need to have some proof thst what you say is true.

I do not believe this without something to prove it. You can understand that.


13 posted on 02/17/2012 6:24:24 PM PST by dforest
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To: conservativejoy

A ticket made up of Romney and Santorum, no matter who is at the top, is a sure loser.


14 posted on 02/17/2012 6:28:39 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: dforest

I didn’t misrepresent anything in my post and was very up front about my source.

Just because I trust the source, I’m not asking you to. Just keep your eyes and ears open.

If this is the real deal, I don’t see how the GOP will survive and they shouldn’t. JMHO


15 posted on 02/17/2012 6:30:43 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: KansasGirl

Definitely a loser! Have you noticed how the GOP E has made a bad habit of shoving Losers down our throats?

That just makes the nightmare of a Romney/Santorun or vice versa outcome a credible possibility.

Lord Save Us!


16 posted on 02/17/2012 6:35:46 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: Irish Eyes

Let’s speculate. Say it is Sarah. Does the VP have much influence in the Senate. Say Newt were VP. Would that do any good at all?


17 posted on 02/17/2012 6:39:46 PM PST by taterjay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin’s number one goal is to stop Obama. If she has to offer up her servants heart at the convention she will. But I don’t think that is her preference.

Though Palin is my preference!


18 posted on 02/17/2012 6:42:37 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: conservativejoy

I’ve been posting on other threads how this is very likely to happen. RickRoll has rolled over the establishment over and over and over again. They say jump, he says how high. He’s shown himself to be a political climber at heart, a go-along-to-get-along guy. He represents everything that was bad about the Republicans in the 2000s. Romney represents everywhere the Republican party wants to go in this decade (social liberal, increased Wall Street/big money ties, cronyism, bailouts). Romney IS the establishment and Santorum is the establishment’s willing buttboy. If Santorum stays atop of the polls, there is NO chance that Romney won’t be on the ticket. There is no way their delegates added together won’t add up to more than half the delegates at this rate. The only chance to take America back for the people and end the corruption is to vote Newt.


19 posted on 02/17/2012 6:44:58 PM PST by JediJones (Just say NO to the MittRick system! Disenfranchise the establishment!)
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To: JediJones

Some of the GOP inside power players in PA are saying this is the deal. With Santorum’s top money backer (Friess) feeling all cozy with Mitt, I don’t think we can shrug this off. Something has smelled rotten for a long time.

At least Newt has two more votes in PA tonight.

Newt says that we have to win this with People Power, so lets keep on pluggin’ and prayin’.

Thanks for your post and stay on it. What your gut is telling you is right on!


20 posted on 02/17/2012 7:01:50 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: KansasGirl

“A ticket made up of Romney and Santorum, no matter who is at the top, is a sure loser.”

True. It would be like having an entree of nothing but carrots and lettuce, and finishing it off with a dessert of plain old whipped cream.


21 posted on 02/17/2012 7:07:31 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: free me

When I heard those words “servant’s heart” come from Sarah in her convention speech, I wondered if this country would ever be worthy again of such a leader. She brought tears to my eyes and a longing cry to my heart, of what we could and should be as a nation.


22 posted on 02/17/2012 7:17:16 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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23 posted on 02/17/2012 7:28:33 PM PST by tomkat (nothin' says FUbo like *Gingrich/Palin 2012*)
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To: conservativejoy

I hear ya, she’s the real deal, all the way.


24 posted on 02/17/2012 7:34:36 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: conservativejoy

You are correct. It is coming and I can’t wait to hear the spin on the romney/santorum ticket. The dastardly duo got worried after SC. Romney threw in his big bucks and filthy advertising. Santorum really didn’t have anything to give except his alliance with Romney and a white flag.


25 posted on 02/17/2012 7:47:37 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

So many folks in PA are buzzing with this. My friends there say that it didn’t surprise anyone because the concensus is that Rick wants this badly enough to make a deal with the devil himself. When someone is always blowing their own horn about how righteous they are, look out.


26 posted on 02/17/2012 7:58:40 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Pros” are who gave the Democrats back control of both Houses of Congress in 2006 and 2008. The “Pros” are who made it possible for obama to get in the White House in 2008. The “Pros” are who probably make it possible for obama to remain in the White House in 2012.


27 posted on 02/17/2012 8:04:20 PM PST by sport
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To: taterjay

The VP is President of the Senate. His (or her) vote could break a tie. I don’t see Newt in that role. His experience would be wasted there, but Sarah could sure get her credentials honed in a VP spot. She’s young enough that she may yet be our Margaret Thatcher! God definitely has something for Sarah and she will be ready, willing and able.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 8:06:32 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: taterjay
Let’s speculate. Say it is Sarah. Does the VP have much influence in the Senate. Say Newt were VP. Would that do any good at all?

Well heck yes, a tie breaker if nothing else. I believe Newt or Sarah Palin would have tons of influence in the Senate.

29 posted on 02/17/2012 8:21:32 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: conservativejoy

I guess to refine my question, does the VP have the same influence, persuasion, and strongarm like the Speaker of the House? We always make fun of the VP, but have never thought about the overreaching influence in the Senate. It is a body where all 100 think they are President.


30 posted on 02/17/2012 9:10:14 PM PST by taterjay
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To: conservativejoy

‘She’s young enough that she may yet be our Margaret Thatcher! God definitely has something for Sarah and she will be ready, willing and able.’

Remember Reagan was not even elected until he was 70. It was a different era and fame and relevance did not come and go as fast as today, but I do hope God has something for Sarah for the long long haul. I also hope and trust she stays grounded in Him and is able to be used by Him for the long haul. That is, if we have a long haul anymore.


31 posted on 02/17/2012 9:14:21 PM PST by taterjay
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

FYI

quote from conservativejoy:

If some of the GOP insiders in PA know what they are talking about, a brokered convention is not going to happen.
Word around Pittsburg is that the GOP E has already brokered a deal between Santorum and Romney.

As far as the GOP is concerned, the only thing the primaries are deciding is who is going to take the top of the ticket.

Sickening.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Heads up. Rumor of a deal between Romney and Santorum camps. This person claims to have knowledge of this deal through an old established PA family who are pro-Romney but despise Santorum (for unstated reasons).

If this is true it throws the whole primary into turmoil.


32 posted on 02/18/2012 2:03:25 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: taterjay

the Vice President of the United States is the president of the Senate. It is his only constitutional duty.


33 posted on 02/18/2012 2:33:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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34 posted on 02/18/2012 3:34:47 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: LALALAW

Talk about a hole card!!!! Going to be an interesting summer.


35 posted on 02/18/2012 3:37:07 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: SatinDoll

BTTT. And thanks for posting in the other thread. Eyes and ears open here in Pa.


36 posted on 02/18/2012 3:42:53 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: taterjay

Any VP’s only clout in today’s Senate is only as powerful as his tie breaker vote. Nobody from outside the establishment is going to have any sway over either house unless the administration can take the argument directly to the people. At present, only two people have that ability and one is not running, yet.

The VP’s only real day to day power is to be the attack dog for the administration. Put the true administrator and person with the Git-er-dun attitude on the top of the ticket and let the ankle biter be there to nip at the heels of the press and opposition with the wind in their sails being the support of the people and the only way to get that wind is to get above the press and the establishment.


37 posted on 02/18/2012 4:18:19 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: dforest
Do you think you might give us a link instead of hearsay?

How would one provide a link to backroom conversations? There is precedent for such a scenario though.


38 posted on 02/18/2012 5:04:55 AM PST by McGruff (Think in bold colors not pale pastels.)
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To: taterjay

No, they pretty much just hang around in case the Pres. drops dead. Or, if they are Joe Biden, they are sent places the Pres. doesn’t want to go where they can screw up as little as possible. I think we can all see why they might want to keep Joe on a tight leash. LOL!

Substantivley, I think Dick Cheney played a pretty big role as an advisor while he was VP, but it varies from one adminstration to the next. Doesn’t seem to be any set agenda for V.P., but I would bet Palin would be one of the more involved and active ones ever. She would, for sure get her foreign policy creds.

I have heard that Newt definitely would have her, at the very least, heading up the Dept. of Energy.


39 posted on 02/18/2012 7:02:12 AM PST by conservativejoy
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