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Megyn Kelly’s Panel Has Some Advice For Santorum: ‘Stop Writing Ads For The Obama Campaign’
Mediaite ^ | February 20, 2012 | Alex Alvarez

Posted on 02/20/2012 10:49:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

On Monday, America Live host Megyn Kelly invited a panel made up of radio host David Webb and Gotham Ghostwriters president / Democratic strategist Dan Gerstein onto the show to discuss candidate Rick Santorum‘s recent comments concerning Barack Obama‘s values and faith. You may recall that, while speaking at a Christian conference on Saturday, Santorum criticized Obama’s moral compass and suggested the President’s agenda was based on a “phony theology” not based on the Bible.

The next say, Santorum appeared on Face the Nation, where he clarified that he hadn’t been talking about the President’s faith, nor about religion convictions at all.

Webb, for one, believes that, in context, Santorum had been referring to the President’s “belief system” rather than his religion. But “what he doesn’t do well,” Webb pointed out, “is stop writing ads for the Obama campaign.” Santorum was merely playing to the Christian crowd, he continued explaining, “and that’s dumb, Megyn. You’ve got to focus on the Obama administration’s jobs record, on its economy record. Focus on those things and stop playing to the crowd.”

Gerstein, meanwhile, feels Santorum’s “phony theology” comment amounts to a personal attack because — whether or not it was meant in a religious context — it sought to question the President’s motivations. Both panelists agreed that Santorum and the rest of the GOP field would do well to avoid attacking the President personally because it’ll result in alienating Independent voters come the general election. The key strategy? Again: going after Obama’s record, particularly where jobs are concerned.

Kelly then pointed out that Santorum seemed to be characterizing Obama’s “belief system” as one based on big government. Gerstein, who has worked with Santorum staffers and praises the candidate as a “man of conviction,” agreed with Kelly’s assessment, adding that this line of thinking will ultimately cost Santorum the election.

Kelly and Gerstein disagreed, however, when it comes to holding Santorum accountable for comments made by his supporters and/financial backers — namely, of course, Foster Friess. Kelly didn’t think it fair to compare Friess’ relationship to Santorum to that of Obama and Rev. Jeremiah Wright. “He sat in the pew for twenty years!” she said of Obama. “Foster Friess is just giving [Santorum] dough!”

Have a look at the discussion, via Fox News:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


TOPICS: Pennsylvania; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2012; christianity; obama; santorum
How is it that Newt isn't beating Rick and Milt?
1 posted on 02/20/2012 10:49:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because the narratives unleashed about Newt via Romney have undermined opinion of Newt in the eyes of the public. Likewise, these tactics backfired on Romney and he’s considered mean/nasty now. So, regressive dorks like Santorum are basically the leftovers.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 10:54:12 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So many Democrats, so much advice to IGNORE.


3 posted on 02/20/2012 10:54:35 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder the same myself.

Romney and his Romneycare had him off my list from the start. The more I learn, the more I dislike the man.

I never liked Santorum from the start and I didn’t know much about him, it was just a strange cat/dog sort of deal. No real reason, I didn’t even like the way he looked.

The more I hear from Santorum and especially! his comment about unions recently—I can’t STAND Santorum.

I have gotten to where I can’t decide who I dislike more— Santorum or Romney.


4 posted on 02/20/2012 11:07:17 PM PST by Irenic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Voters are mostly platitude loving, soundbite cheering lemmings by now. They are all in FOR whoever is “up”, while they’re “up”, but even then the support is a mile wild, temporary, and an inch thick.

Lemmings have no real use for brains, unmatched skill & accomplishment, national political experience, fluency, nor high order thinking. If some candidate delivers a one liner or a zinger that causes an oxygen surge to their brain, then they are “all in” for that one.

Newt delivers one liners too, but they are not cheap or manufactured by some consultant, and more important there are layers and layers of wisdom, depth and decades of practical knowledge behind those single soaring statements. He’s a brilliant, personable man. No one competes in those two catagories.

The American voter is not very brilliant, in the classical sense any more, and they are certainly not feeling very personable. :)


5 posted on 02/20/2012 11:15:31 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I sort of agree with Webb, and I do like David a lot! I listen to his show on Saturday mornings on Sirius whenever possible. He’s very good. But I also believe that Rick is merely speaking out loud what millions of Americans — and not just Republicans — have been thinking for the better part of four years (me, longer)! I don’t see how that is a negative for Santorum!


6 posted on 02/20/2012 11:20:05 PM PST by RocketMan1 (I am an eternal optimist, but for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my Country!)
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To: Irenic

Santorum is entirely out of step on unions in 2011, and that story remains to be told to his supporters! Can he not know by now that between public schools and unions, they have together delivered us a nation now half full of Marxists?

Newt will rise at the point Rick’s conservative social schlick runs head long into his union record, and it gets exposed.


7 posted on 02/20/2012 11:27:42 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: Irenic
Greetings Irenic:

The more I hear from Santorum and especially! his comment about unions recently—I can’t STAND Santorum.

Mind sharing what Santorum said about unions which you found so offensive?

Cheers,
OLA

8 posted on 02/20/2012 11:28:53 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Greetings Utmost Certainty:

...regressive dorks like Santorum...

Frankly, all the MSM soundbite regurgating group-think types parroted Ronald Reagan was "senile;" so I prefer MSM defined "dorks" over MSM defined "mavericks."

But what I find most interesting: how does "regressive" get worked into a description of Rick Santorum?

Cheers,
OLA

9 posted on 02/20/2012 11:47:40 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: RitaOK
Greetings RitaOK:

public schools and unions, they have together delivered us a nation now half full of Marxists?

I feel your pain.

Despite educators already holding the extraordinary protection of "tenure," by Executive order Kennedy forced public sector teacher unions upon the USA. Making matters worse, Dhimmi Carter gave us the Department of Education.

President Reagan couldn't overturn the newly created Department of Education; so you mind sharing a realistic plan for reversing the half-century prescident of public sector teacher's unions?

Cheers,
OLA

10 posted on 02/21/2012 12:04:30 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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!

11 posted on 02/21/2012 12:05:53 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

The only answer I have off hand, leans on Right to Work and no forced dues legislation, and reversing the present attempt to shrink the election time to vote to go union, before the opposition/management/workers can even respond in kind and inform other workers.

There was a time, before Obama, where the unions were hardly a factor, down to 15%. Where are they getting their money? Union members dues can’t be enough to underwrite union efforts to create such havoc as they have been in Obama’s three years.

Now there is even a global effort to unionize underway, so this tells me there is a global web of communist inspired financiers (like Soros) that are banking them and count unions as a foundation for building a Marxist society, here for sure and everywhere else as soon as possible.

I sure don’t know why unions can not be corraled.


12 posted on 02/21/2012 12:30:59 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

“I have no problem with private-sector unions,” Santorum said in his remarks on Thursday. “I think they play a role in society.”

***********************
I am anti-union through and through.


13 posted on 02/21/2012 12:33:49 AM PST by Irenic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mark Levin completely covered this issue of the purposeful misquoting of Santorum last evening


14 posted on 02/21/2012 12:44:31 AM PST by montag813
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"How is it that Newt isn't beating Rick and Milt?"

Because Snitt Romney has used the old tried and true tactic of suppressing the turnout rather than actually attracting supporters.
The Vichy Republicans will make sure a number of those who want to just be the handmaidens of the Fascist democrats turn out and make it look like a, "moderate" is what will win Independents. For that reason, Snitt knows that if he can just get Conservatives and Independents to say, "a pox on both their houses" he wins without convincing anyone that he's the best candidate. It's a well worn strategy among those who cannot run on their record, so well worn that it's now easier than ever to get people to just drop out and ignore the whole primary process in spite of all the additional information available these days.

Just look at the turnout numbers in some of the places that Santorum or Romney call a "a victory". How many people actually had to show up and vote for Snitt or Santorum to make it look like Newt is way behind? How many votes did it actually take to swing the election toward one candidate or another and in which cases do you honestly think the Vichy Republican machinery couldn't pony up that many votes for the establishment critter of the hour? Do the States where Newt looks the worst have strong or weak State Vichy Republican parties, open primaries where anyone can vote, and so on.

Santorum wants to be VP so he'll keep on pounding along as long as it takes to get Romney nominated. Having him seem to do well provides the Vichy Republicans with both a stick to whip Snitt with when he goes off message and an additional way to split the vote and muddy up the fact that the majority will never vote for Snitt Romney.

Newt, on the other hand, has seen all these games before and knows that when someone wins by a few hundred votes out of only a few thousand cast it's the result of negative advertising suppressing the vote and not an indication of what people want. Crowds at rallies and speeches are an indication of what people want, not Vichy Republican bought and paid for straw polls and celebrations of who the Vichy have anointed. Newt will stay in the race no matter what because Newt knows that the Reagan Revolution has to be revived, expanded, and victorious, because any other result signs the death warrant for this country and Newt loves this country.

Newt or neutered, that's the real decision.

JMHO

15 posted on 02/21/2012 1:18:10 AM PST by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Irenic

Greetings Irenic:

Thank you for your candor.

From the way I read the quotes, Rick Santorum expresses a constitutional conservative-libertarian stand concerning private contracts among men. Government remains neutral with the exception of contract enforcement ajudication. In the case of public sector unions, government can not remain neutral. Guessing Newt Gingrich’s stand would be identical.

From my frame of reference, government setting a minimum wage undermines the private sector organized labor movement more than any right-to-work legislation. Up until government set a minimum wage, Grange Halls hosting every imaginable guild of free men had sprung up across the USA.

Cheers,
OLA


16 posted on 02/21/2012 1:50:30 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: All
Rick is a conservative who speaks his mind and lets the chips fall where they may.
Naturally many of his words are going to be twisted and taken out of context by his opponents on both the “Right” and Left and other words will just be rejected for being conservative.
I like Rick and so does Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh (and when one has tens of millions of devoted listeners then one may weigh their, by comparison, insignificant opinion against theirs) plus he is leading in the national polls in spite of well financed and very ugly smear campaigns against him, again from both the Left and the “Right.”
Unlike many others I will not defend my candidate by slinging mud at the others--I will just stand by my tagline.
17 posted on 02/21/2012 3:10:44 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: RitaOK

Greetings RitaOK:

Private sector unions should have the right to finance their favorite candidate; just as any private business should. My issue is the public sector unions purchasing the politician they collectively bargain with for access to the public’s checkbook.

Doubtful Rick or Newt would support RTW on the federal level. Right-to-work ought to remain a 10th amendment issue.

Cheers,
OLA


18 posted on 02/21/2012 3:26:21 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Happy Rain

Greeetings Happy Rain:

Candidates ought to tell us why we should vote for them, and refrain from telling us why we should vote against their opponent.

Up until this point Rick Santorum has been doing that quite well. This week we’ll see how Rick performs with the circular firing squad’s guns upon him.

Praying for our future leaders,
OLA


19 posted on 02/21/2012 3:34:12 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How is it that Newt isn't beating Rick and Milt?

Didn't you know this election is about who is in charge of paying for birth control, and how 'bain capital' is just like Obama's auto bail out. Both 'issues' certainly have debt reduction and job creation potentials. (partial sarcasm)

20 posted on 02/21/2012 3:36:13 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

**** kelly and **** fox.

LLS


21 posted on 02/21/2012 3:56:54 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
When one asks which GOP candidate the Left fears and loathes the most on a purely ideological level....

...gotta admit it's Rick;)

I can't wait to watch the liberal and RINO heads explode when he stomps the Commissar In Chief in November.

22 posted on 02/21/2012 4:45:15 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: Irenic

As to unions:

I tend to agree with Santorum in this area. Where public sector unions have shown to have had a terribly adverse effect on our nations economy and it’s well being, many private sector unions deliver a net positive to the same.

I am no fan at all of union deals such as UAW who although involved with a private enterprise, were allowed to attain a position where they brought down the entire company. The real villains in that deal was our government’s meddling and the complete cowards who were the managers. Had GM been allowed to go into bankruptcy, the union deal would have expired.

Would you really want a nuclear power plant that was built by electricians that somebody found in the phone book whose expertise up until that point was wiring houses? Who built the forms for the concrete that was poured in that same structure, “Joe’s Construction”or maybe “ABC Carpentry”? Whoever is the lowest bidder, right?

Or, how about that new nuke powered aircraft carrier, do you really think that “Franks Discount Plumbing” is up to the task of fitting all of the steam piping that will be required? Would you want your kid being deployed on that thing?

I’ve been in the construction industry for over 40 years and in that time, there are a few things that I’ve learned about trade unions. First, and probably most important, the schools. Every new employee MUST not only attend the schools (sometimes for years) but they MUST pass the tests in order to remain and MUST be able to demonstrate what they have learned in their work in order to advance. Where else would we get electricians, plumbers, pipe fitters, carpenters and other tradesmen?

My brother-in-law has been a union electrician for many years. His company is in the business of shutting down nuclear power plants, participating in the maintenance, and then restarting the plant. He learned how to do this while he was in the union.

The next time you are driving on an interstate highway and you cross over one of the many overpasses, think about who built that bridge. Was it Jose’ and his merry band of immigrants? Or was it guys from the Locals whose work has been scrutinized over and over again?

There are many things these guys aren’t suited for and are totally unneeded. Residential and light commercial don’t require that level of expertise or that level of wage scale to accomplish. That’s like having a MD fill your tooth.


23 posted on 02/21/2012 4:45:34 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In other words, Santorum should quit telling the truth. Got it.


24 posted on 02/21/2012 4:46:18 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I think the comment could be: Obama’s supporters and Romney: you stop telling lies about me and I will stop telling the truth about you.


25 posted on 02/21/2012 5:26:15 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Rearden

I just hope my nightmare doesn’t come true. That is the socially conservative candidate who leans to the left on economic issues. A true 1930’s New Deal Democrat. So if Santorum gets the nod, we end up with a Democrat primary circa 1976 in November. The Democrats dominated for decades with leftist economic policies because both parties did not differ on the social issues up until the late 60’s, and even then the New Left did not gain politically until the mid 70’s. This primary season could be the death knell for the free market.


26 posted on 02/21/2012 5:41:53 AM PST by gusty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is always okay as long as the right is shut down on any social issues. As long as the Democrats control that narrative which is always a death culture immoral position they will continue to be in control no matter who the President is.

The economy is one of the top issues, but it isn’t the only issue. The media is going to pump Obama up with false economy reports from here to election day. Many people believe those lies, so the GOP should have more tools in the box.

The trick for the GOP candidates will be how adept they can be at a balanced message without letting the media and the left control their whole message.


27 posted on 02/21/2012 5:57:59 AM PST by dforest
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28 posted on 02/21/2012 7:59:46 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I’m cool with everybody having rights, public or private, corps or unions. The obvious problem is paying dues toward some purpose or person whose interests are not your own. As you will recall, I’m sure, 40% of union members have been known to vote Republican, and probably still do for all I know, but where their dues go, and what these dues support that these people pay, quite jumps the shark. We observers can conclude too much of it is anti-American, and do.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 1:15:20 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I’m cool with everybody having rights, public or private, corps or unions. The obvious problem is paying dues toward some purpose or person whose interests are not your own. As you will recall, I’m sure, 40% of union members have been known to vote Republican, and probably still do for all I know, but where their dues go, and what these dues support that these people pay, quite jumps the shark. We observers can conclude too much of it is anti-American, and do.


30 posted on 02/21/2012 1:16:33 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: RitaOK

Greetings RitaOK:

In my trade union, IUOE, it’s very likely 80% of the membership leans conservative. We enjoy using our minds operating machinery as we get our hands dirty overcoming the fuzzy math skills of our hopelessly desk bound geeky brethren. (Just kidding desk bound geeks.)

My local IUOE PAC, unlike many labor unions, is funded when we write a personal check to fund the PAC. And when our local makes a bad decision over which politician we ought to support, we vote with our PAC donations. Or lack of PAC donations.

Our pension funds are invested in projects good for the construction trades and the USA; such as heavy industries, shopping centers, etc. Needless to say, 0bama and the democRats have been a disaster for our trade.

‘Nuff said. Thanks for your contributiuon to the discussion.

Cheers,
OLA


31 posted on 02/21/2012 2:00:37 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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