Skip to comments.Top McCain Advisor on ‘Game Change’: Palin Didn’t Cost GOP the Election – Obama’s Fundraising Did
Posted on 02/25/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
In an in-depth exclusive interview with Big Hollywood, T. Michael Andrews, a former adviser to the McCain presidential campaign defends Governor Sarah Palin, saying that the premise of HBOs Game Change is dead wrong that she was not the reason the Republicans lost the election Obamas fundraising is.
Andrews, a former lawyer for the Bush administration, left his position at the Department of Homeland Security in 2008 and recently authored a book, The Border Challenge about his experience fighting the drug war for the U.S. His interview with Big Government in January can be read here.
Andrews left Homeland in 2008 to serve as the Southwestern Regional Coordinator for the McCain/Palin Presidential_Campaign and was in charge of operations throughout Arizona, New Mexico and West Texas. Heres what he had to say about the former Alaskan Governor and the presidential election of 2008:
The premise of the Game Change film is that Sarah Palin cost the Republicans the election in 2008. Do you agree?
I disagree with the premise that Palin lost the election in 2008. The fact of the matter they say that money doesnt win elections, I say bull. Obama had more money than he knew what to do with. He was very fortunate to ride on a wave of Bush fatigue, a rejuvenated electorate with this hope and change message and more importantly, he had money, which allowed him to tap into deep resources.
Lets face it, he ran one of the best campaigns, and Ill give him credit, from his win in the Democratic primary against Sen. Clinton to his general election win, his election will go down in history as one of the best run campaigns in political history. He caught a tsunami as far as how the electorate were feeling at the time...
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Obama fundraising didn’t make McCain pathetic, Johnny did that all by his lonesome.
PDS, as eternal as a peat bog fire.
McCain was the problem always was
I don’t think Palin cost McCain the election but I don’t think it was Obama’s fundraising that did it to McCain either. That Obama had more money only begs the question rather than provides the answer. Obama raised more funds because he was a more appealing candidate, generated more enthusiasm and delivered a more articulate message — regardless of whether we agree with it — than McCain to the public masses at the time.
McLames distorted view on being an affable adversary was BOs greatest advantage.
If you wrote up a formula for success in making it to the White House, and then applied the idea of a fairly old candidate with average speaking talents....then you just took twenty-percent of your odds away. I suspect that you could have picked Jeb Bush for the VP position of McCains....and it wouldn’t have mattered.
McCain LOST because he was only ever really motivated to beat the other Republicans in the primary.
McCain did not actually want to be president. He wanted to beat the other Republicans.
Once he did that, he didn’t care. McCain quit.
McCain beat his own campaign. Palin very nearly rescued it, despite McCain and his stupid staffers’ incompetence.
It’s starting to come to light (although we were hearing about it in 2008) that millions of dollars of that money came from places like Pakistan, Gaza, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Europe and the like, which is illegal. I doubt that having Ronald Reagan as his running mate would’ve saved McCain.
Fundraising isn’t nearly as almighty important as many seem to think it is. Obviously you have to be able to make ads and travel but at a certain point the money becomes meaningless.
My congressman defeated a democrat incumbent and his union minions with less than half the money in 2010. They spent $8 million and he spent around $4 million. (Which was more money than he raised in his entire 14 year career in state politics)
Obama had a 10:1 advantage over McCain because McCain didn't take public funds.
Obama said he would sit down with McCain and discuss the issue of public funds but he lied and decided to just take the money.
Obama had $750 M to McCain's $75 M. Certainly money was one of the main reasons Obama won. And that's why he'll lose this time...the GOP nominee will compete on a level field this time.
“Fundraising isnt nearly as almighty important as many seem to think it is”
I agree with you. There’s a certain threshold necessary to be competitive but otherwise at the end of the day it’s whether a candidate resonates/connects with the voters.
I think one of the key moments was his lying to David Letterman so he could be on Katie Couric. That, for me, totally changed my thoughts on the man any level of respect.
You don’t lie, telling the electorate that you’re going to Washington to vote on a bailout package when you’re just going to the next studio for a more preferred interview.
But didn’t everyone in the nation already know who McCain was? The guy’s been around for decades, was never media shy, etc.
I think Obama won simply because of the enthusiasm he generated on the campaign trail with his well-spoken message of hope and change (even if insincerely held) and people naively liked the idea of voting for the first African American president without questioning his message.
I understand that it took a lot of money to deliver the Obama propaganda but I think the public was ripe for it, and there was little that could be done by McCain and Palin to counter it.
Obama in many ways in history will be considered the Accidental President, and the public (I hope) won’t be twice-fooled by his rhetoric into electing him in the fall for a second term.
“McCain was the problem always was”
I remember under Bush’s first term there was always quite a bit of conjecture when, not if but when, McLame was going to switch parties (along with when Jeffords and Chaffee were going to jump).
This is the guy that Republicans nominated. How could we lose? /s
And he had Romney's Reptiles sabotaging the McCain campaign from within, and Romney's Gay Brigades trashing the McCain campaign all across the nation.
McCain was down more than 30 points before Palin joined the ticket, and she brought them even and then ahead for September 2008.
Romney's Reptiles worked non-stop to elect Obama, and have continued for the past three years attacking Sarah Palin.
No, I think there were millions of younger voters, for example, who never paid attention to politics but were bedazzled by the glitzy venues Obama bought as well as the handlers he hired to go into universities, etc.
A 10:1 advantage in money is huge. What's telling is that McCain lost by only a few points even with his paltry war-chest. If he had believed in fund-raising he would have won handily.
Obama is going to lose this time because he will be struggling a lot more for $.
After McCain chose Palin for VP, he was leading Obama in the polls - until the Sept 2008 run on the bank, shortly after which the direction of the polls reversed. Fact.
Obama bought the election all right. But it wasn’t just through the illegal foreign campaign contributions that the Obama campaign disabled from being tracked. What got Obama elected was the run on the bank - and we’ve never been told who did that run on the bank.
We do know that the banks who benefited from TARP were mostly foreign sharia-compliant banks who contributed to groups like ACORN...
And we do know that Middle Eastern Muslims were saying that Obama is a Muslim and Ghadaffi was saying he was just hoping that Obama wouldn’t have to “moderate” his goals too much once he was elected. The Egyptian ambassador said in a TV interview that Obama had privately stated what his goals were. He said Obama told him he was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda but that the Muslim world needed to be patient with him because he couldn’t focus on the Muslim agenda until after he got Obamacare passed.
That meeting between Obama and the Egyptian ambassador was in January 2010, when Obama had been in office for a year. So Obama was feeling like he had to apologize to the Muslim world for not pushing the Muslim agenda (the destruction of the US and Israel and the institution of worldwide sharia) within his first year. That may be because - as we now know - Ahmadinejad at the beginning of 2008 was expecting the POTUS elected in 2008 to pave the way so that the Mahdi would return by mid-2011.
We must also realize that George Soros has said...
that he owns the democratic party. He paid for it; it is his.
that he doesn’t want the US to win the “war on terror” because that would make America and capitalism strong, and those are the 2 great evils he has to fight.
that he is God.
We must also realize that George Soros has made his fortune by manipulating economies, and that at least one Soros-funded group (can’t remember which one, should try to look that up) urged all their people to make a run on a particular bank, to try to create a panic. So this is a methodology the Soros people can use. That effort flopped because they didn’t have people with enough money to make a difference, but since Soros has lots of his own money and has lots of communist and Islamist allies who are filthy rich (and who could get their money back through TARP), the same tactic we saw publicly could easily have been done successfully with bigger bucks. That would also explain why we were never told who made the run on the banks in Sept of 2008.
That ability to make - at any time of his choosing - a run on the bank that could (as Bush described it) “end the world as we know it” could also explain what Soros could hold over the heads of the media - which he threatened into silence over Obama’s eligibility issue, and at least until he left Fox they were STILL threatening Glenn Beck to try to shut him up about Soros’ communist and Islamist connections in the world and in Obama’s puppet regime. It would also explain how Bush, Cheney, Chief Justice Roberts and all the eligibility judges including Judge Michael Malihi (who just made a sharia ruling that Obama was eligible to be on the GA ballot) simply stood by and let Obama get the White House - Bush most notably beginning that stance (and giving a speech telling us that the world would end if we didn’t pass TARP) on the very same day that Obama called John McCain and McCain responded by suspending his campaign and trying to call off the debates. Something about that day scared the life right out of both Bush and McCain - and after which McCain’s poll numbers began to tank.
It would also explain why the Sept 2008 run on the bank was followed by both Ahmadinejad and Zawahiri saying that “since capitalism had failed”, the world should try Islamic finance (and could explain why Bernanke and Paulson led sharia-compliant finance seminars right after the run on the bank, and why sharia-compliant banks got TARP money). It explains why at the same time Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez were saying that “since capitalism had failed”, the world should try communism. It explains why the IMF was meeting to decide what needed to happen next, since “capitalism had failed”.
There is way too much that I could say and show to make the picture clearer, but I don’t have the time right now to say and show it all. It’s there, though. This is just a taste. A few facts which, when assembled together, make a fairly clear picture.
Obama’s campaign was what this guy in this interview said - until Palin was chosen as VP, and then Obama’s world turned upside down. What got Obama to win was the Sept 2008 run on the bank. I believe this guy was right, though, that the win was accomplished by lots and lots of money. I believe that money came from communist and Islamist sources under the direction of George Soros, who has done everything by manipulating economies.
The subprime lending mess that made our economy so vulnerable.... was the mind-child of Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, who within The New Party in Chicago (of which Obama was a signed member) were looking for a lawyer who would push the two LEGAL agendas to make the Cloward-Piven Plan to overthrow the US. It just so happened that Barack Obama was the lawyer whose Harvard degree was funded by a Saudi prince, and whose only two legal battles involved the Motor Voter Law to compromise the integrity of elections and Community Reinvestment Act harassment of banks to force them into subprime lending to compromise the integrity of our economic system.
So Obama was a central piece of the communists’ Cloward-Piven Plan to weaken elections and economy, and he owed his win to a run on the bank - with communists and Islamists immediately declaring themselves the winners after the run on the bank, because “capitalism had failed”.
As I said, there is much, much more but this is a start. We are naive if we believe it was sheer politics that put Obama in office, and we will be dangerously naive if we believe that sheer politics will get him out of office.
I dont think they’re afraid of her. She has very limited political potential right now. I think they just enjoy making fun of her.
Don’t correct an obvious mistake with another obvious mistake, especially when there is nothing obscure about the solution. McCain and his campaign team lost the election. It’s better to admit it than it is to continue playing the fool.
Obama’s $$? I always thought it was the piece of crap named John McCrap
my only surprise is that McCain and Co. didn’t jump right on and say “Yeah, dang right, that dumb broad cost me the election...at least that’s what my daughter says...”
BS. His campaign was mediocre at best.
But he was the media's darling. They covered for his gaffes and they distorted his opponent's views.
The media invested all of its credibility in Obama's election and now they're 100% invested in his re-election.
How is the foreign money to Obama coming to light? I know we all thought so but this is the first I’ve heard that proof is emerging. I’m guessing this is why they messed with the credit card verifications and of course no one did a damn thing about it.
Why have laws when they’re just ignored? The same thing will happen again. No wonder BO thinks he’s President of the World and the American citizens are just obstacles to be drained of their cash and then ignored.
IMO, a lot of McCain losing was because McCain is a dud. He generated no enthusiasm. He didn’t inspire. He was kissing Obama’s butt and chastising his supporters for questioning Obama. Chastising people for using Obama’s middle name Hussein. Who wants to support that kind of crap? Not to mention all the back stabbing he had done to Republicans over the years. Palin comes on the scene and gives the old coot’s campaign an injection, but it wasn’t enough because McCain was still a dud. Someone last night posted that McCain really didn’t want it. Just wanted the dollars for his Senate campaign. That’s an interesting idea that I hadn’t thought of before.
Game Change is dead wrong that she was not the reason the Republicans lost the election............................................ Crock of feces, beyond dead wrong, she was the reason people came out to vote and kept McCain from being totally wiped out by a landslide vote. The left knows that too. Why are they still trying to destroy her? Because they are terrified of her, they know she represents “Not business as usual” in DC if she is ever elected. Its unfortunate the ignorant, voting public, are not capable of seeing it.
Truth be told, and I know that this is only my personal, anecdotal case, but I would not have even shown up at the polls for McCain if Palin had not been his running mate.
I would bet that he'd have lost by a much bigger margin without her.
The extreme money advantage helped Obama. McCain’s horribly run campaign helped Obama. The financial crisis and McCain’s reaction to it helped Obama. The so-called feel good idea of voting for the first AA president helped Obama. Bush fatigue and Obama’s “hope and change” helped. But I still don’t think that all of that would have saved Obama if the media had vetted him. He was able to get away with being as he put it a “blank slate” that people could complete according to their desires because the media was completely in the tank for him. They purposely didn’t do their job in making the American public aware of what Obama was really all about. If they had, the “blank slate” and the “hope and change” mantra flim-flam would not have worked. The generally low information voter was intentionally kept that way by the media.
Contrast McCain's presidential campaign with his own re-election effort in 2010 in which he campaigned hard and became a born-again conservative--for a season--so as to rally the party's base.
let’s add some facts:
1. Palin boosted McCain into the lead until
2. McCain wimped out and lost the election
Sarah was who we voted for not McCain
Would you spend HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars just to “make fun” of someone? Seriously?
They may have. I dont think they fear her, because there is nothing to fear. She is not in office, she isnt running for any office this year and wouldnt be in any office until 2015 if she ran in 2014. There wasnt a big national movement to get her in the race.
As to spending money, we dont make movies like they do. They are still making things about Nixon, and he definitely is not a threat. I think that is how they give themselves therapy, but its not out of fear. And I dont know that they have spent hundreds of millions on it.
She is the only reason the election was as close as it was.
McCain is the one person who could refute HBO’s premise, but of course, he wouldn’t. He is too egoistical to admit his own failure.
His campaign staff/advisers have his tacit approval to smear Palin. Not once has he defended her.
And one of the critical factors in that was the threats Soros made to Fox. Keep your eyes and ears open and you may hear more about that, though not from the state-run media including Fox.
2008 was not an election; it was a coup.
After the convention and Sarah’s speech, McCain shot ahead in the polls. Then came the media destruction of Sarah and McCain’s eagerness to quit the campaign to approve the first bailout - the rest was history.
Yes. I remember the Convention. Many of the other speeches were good. Palins was the best. McCains was so flat I keep waiting for him to get some pep into it. He made Gerald Ford, by comparison, seem like Patrick Henry .
McCain performed excellently as Hussein’s running-mate.
“2008 was not an election; it was a coup.”
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