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In Romney, Moderates See A Champion Against The "Nutjobs" The Tea Party is so 2009
BuzzFeed ^ | March 1, 2012 | McKay Coppins

Posted on 03/03/2012 9:25:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

ANN ARBOR, Michigan — As he watched last week's Republican debate from his apartment in University of Michigan's married student housing, Derek Osborne could hardly contain his disgust every time Rick Santorum came on TV.

"He represents a part of the Republican party that drives me absolutely crazy," he seethed.

Osborne, a Ph.D candidate, is a Mitt Romney supporter. He's also a moderate Republican who is alarmed at what he sees as the anti-intellectual fervor—and undeniable political power—of the Tea Party movement. As the latest candidate to emerge as the main populist rival to Romney, Santorum has become the primary political enemy of Osborne and millions of voters like him.

Indeed, more than anywhere else in this political moment, Romney's campaign stops have served as the stage for a rising counter-revolution against the Tea Party—with moderate Republicans uniting behind the candidate whose nomination, they hope, will damp down the fires that have raged on the right since 2009. It's the latest turn in an intramural war that has been waged since Barry Goldwater beat a handful of Establishment Republicans — including Michigan Governor George Romney — in the 1964 Republican primary.

"I will not vote for him if he's the nominee," Osborne pledged, as Santorum's face filled the television set in his living room. "For him there's one right answer that is given by God that you have to obey. You're not allowed to talk about negotiating or compromising. It's insane."

It's a sentiment that was echoed repeatedly by the crowds of supporters at Romney's recent campaign swing through Michigan.

Mark Mailloux, a Romney rally-goer from Fenton, MI who works in the health care field, called Santorum the latest star in a rotating cast of "conservative nutjobs... First it was Bachmann, then whats-his-face from Texas, and right on down the road."

His wife Joan agreed: "I don't want a nominee clear over by the Tea Party. I want a moderate, responsible Republican. Santorum tells us on television that he's got these big economic plans and then he doesn't tell us a darn thing about them," she said, complaining that he spends too much time attacking his opponents and sermonizing on social issues.

In Kalamazoo, MI, student Gus Thatcher voiced exasperation at conservatives' stubborn insistence on mobilizing behind a new standard-bearer every time Romney has defeated one of their candidates. He was particularly irked by Santorum's sudden re-emergence.

"It just sort of happened out of nowhere, and they can't even explain why they like him [more than Gingrich]," he said, adding that Santorum is "too extreme to beat Obama."

Though he has made occasional half-hearted appeals to the Tea Party, Romney himself has appeared to embrace his role as the party's moderate answer to right-wing populism. During a visit to Michigan's campaign headquarters on Tuesday, he let loose on his more conservative opponents.

“It’s very easy to excite the base with incendiary comments,” he told reporters. “We’ve seen throughout the campaign that if you’re willing to say really outrageous things that are accusatory and attacking President Obama that you’re going to jump up in the polls. You know, I’m not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am.”

This type of rhetoric is exactly what has earned him so many supporters in the GOP's waning moderate wing. But as the race has worn on, many of those same voters have grown restless with Romney's inability to seal the deal—and some wish he'd set his hair on fire to defeat Santorum.

"Why hasn't Mitt taken him out yet?" asked a frustrated Eric Zeugschmidt, a communications executive from Provo, Utah.

His advice to Romney?

"Take the kid gloves off and start knocking some heads... This Mr. Nice Guy who is taking the higher road is not working."


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: badloserromney; nastyromneyites; poorloserromney; romney; romney4romney; romneybackstabbders; romneydirtytricks; romneysaboteurs; santorum; spoilerromney; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
Remind me again what the difference would be between a Romney and Obama administration.
1 posted on 03/03/2012 9:25:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'Osborne, a Ph.D candidate'

I terminated my reading right there.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


2 posted on 03/03/2012 9:29:29 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sir hate to tell you this but YOU are a democrat.


3 posted on 03/03/2012 9:35:08 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberal Arts Degree Pictures, Images and Photos

"Yes, it's nice you're working on that Ph'D and your opinions are fascinating, ummm, not so much milk in my latte next time."

4 posted on 03/03/2012 9:36:01 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Moderates”:

I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I would that you were cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Some famous Dude said that, once.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 9:36:43 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Man........... where does one begin. haa. Seal the deal - is that what you want? He can't do it. You knuckleheads who are PHD’s and full of yourselves, just wait until you start getting a paycheck and stop spending 100% time in the radical arena of - cough, cough - higher learning.

Mittens surrounds himself with nasty people - hence you didn't learn anything about how he sabotaged Sarah Palin and then entire McCain campaign last gorounnd? Well - school learned folks - read up on what happened there. Those of us who work hard, pay taxes for a living don't want Mitten's Romney/Obamacare. You can slice him and dice him - he's the same as ozippy! Is that what you really want? Do you own any piece of clothing displaying a peace symbol from the 60's? haa. just checking.

6 posted on 03/03/2012 9:37:38 PM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (If we don't help make a change, then who will? It starts with us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moderate these days means liberal

Heck these days, moderate means socialist


7 posted on 03/03/2012 9:38:22 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These “supporters” of Romney sound like Obama supporters. Close your eyes and have someone read to you what these people have said and you’d swear your on the daily kos web site, scary isn’t it..that we have these “people” in our party


8 posted on 03/03/2012 9:39:10 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m so glad that the GOP-e in the guise of Derek feeeeeel that they have this all locked up with mittens. I’m sure that they won’t miss lil ol me a bit.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 9:42:06 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Snickering Hound

Now that’s funny ;-)


10 posted on 03/03/2012 9:43:33 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Viking2002

Funny how everyone that the mainstream media tags “moderate” is really quite far on the left side . . .


11 posted on 03/03/2012 9:45:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Heroes of the 1700's: Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Adams, Patrick Henry, Benjamin Franklin, all the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S.Constitution - yup, all fit the 2012 category of "nutjobs".

On the other hand, sympathizers of the Crown fit the 2012 category of "moderates".

12 posted on 03/03/2012 9:46:55 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: rockrr

Mittens himself has sais that he wants to moderate the party, he doesn’t want people like us in the GOP. If he became the nominee/President he will be the titular head of that party. He will destroy it from within, I will never cast a vote for the guy.


13 posted on 03/03/2012 9:47:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wrong Coppins, Osborne and those of their ilk.

The Tea Party is so 1773.


14 posted on 03/03/2012 9:49:35 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Snickering Hound

15 posted on 03/03/2012 9:50:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: GeronL

Yea well I know that I can be a hot-head and a hard-ass, and maybe mittens and me wouldn’t make the best of tablemates. But if he thinks he’s gonna get the job done by running off the right-wing he’s seriously deluded.

Win the battle and lose the war - great strategy mitt.


16 posted on 03/03/2012 9:53:16 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

He is trying to sound conservative, but he doesn’t act very well. He’ll stop acting conservative if he wins or loses.

He won’t beat Obama I think, too many will simply stay home.


17 posted on 03/03/2012 9:56:21 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: chris_bdba

Sir, I hate to say this but you will be responsible for a Viking suicide.

A democrat—the worst insult evah! The humanity!


18 posted on 03/03/2012 10:00:52 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: GeronL
I've grown weary of too many shouting at me that somehow I'm obliged I have to vote for him. I don't see that happening. I've never voted for a liberal and don't intend to start now.
19 posted on 03/03/2012 10:05:45 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mr. Nice Guy taking the high road”

Really, dude, really???


20 posted on 03/03/2012 10:08:22 PM PST by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not one d*** thing.


21 posted on 03/03/2012 10:38:27 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s funny, I see DNC candidate #2.


22 posted on 03/03/2012 10:50:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks! So does Mitts magic underwear!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Against The “Nutjobs””

He that controls the language, controls the masses-Saul Alinsky


23 posted on 03/03/2012 10:55:52 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Nutjob Tea Party
No deficit spending. Lower taxes. Limited, constitutional government. Individual freedom. Individual responsibility.

“Moderates”
Massive deficit spending. Higher taxes. Ever expanding government. Regulating individuals. Dependency on government from cradle to grave.

Who are the nutjobs again?


24 posted on 03/03/2012 11:32:45 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: GeronL

Shoot, anything we don’t like, is liberal.


25 posted on 03/04/2012 12:51:41 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney would make a great running mate for Obama.
They're both such suave liars who have big plans for us.
Too bad Mitt's ego won't allow him to be #2.
26 posted on 03/04/2012 2:16:50 AM PST by syriacus (Contraception mandate will enrich Planned Parenthood.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please don’t say things like this. You may detest Romney but he is not Obama. He may be a different kind of evil that we don’t know about yet, but from what we know now, the difference is humongous.


27 posted on 03/04/2012 2:30:45 AM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum is not truly tea party. This guy is setting him up as a sort of straw man tea party candidate. Why don’t they argue aganst the stated principles of the tea party, instead of Santorum’s choir boy nonsense that will turn off 3/4 of the voters?


28 posted on 03/04/2012 2:36:35 AM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...anti-intellectual fervor...”?????

My guess is that this *doctoral student* couldn’t pass a high school civics test ...or the naturalization exam given to legal immigrants for citizenship.


29 posted on 03/04/2012 4:18:51 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: firebrand

“Santorum’s choir boy nonsense”

Which is....?


30 posted on 03/04/2012 4:21:09 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: firebrand

Romney is far WORSE than Obama.

They deliver the SAME.
Obama will be impeached now.
Romney will enforce the same with the same troops.

IF ROMNEY IS ON THE TICKET, the entire GOP
is dead; as will be America (Team Romney’s goal).


31 posted on 03/04/2012 4:35:35 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real battle will come in 2016. By then, there will be no more room for nuance or tempered and moderate perspective. Candidates will not be on searches for their “core values.” The men, or women, suitable for the Presidency will already be vetted by actions. On the opposite side, the mask will be off and the communists will be throwing red meat to their rabble. In turn, they’ll be rioting.


32 posted on 03/04/2012 5:59:47 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Remind me again what the difference would be between a Romney and Obama administration.”

I would, but there won’t be any, contrary to what a bunch of Democrats with Rs next to their names tell us.


33 posted on 03/04/2012 6:54:57 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: GeronL

“Heck these days, moderate means socialist”

+1


34 posted on 03/04/2012 8:07:18 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: rockrr

Maybe he is really campaigning for Biden’s job :P


35 posted on 03/04/2012 8:09:10 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: firebrand

“He may be a different kind of evil that we don’t know about yet, but from what we know now, the difference is humongous.”

His close political ally Chris Christie put a homosexual on the NJ Supreme Court because ‘diversity is important on the court’. Am I supposed to believe that Mitt will nominate a conservative for the courts?

All he will do is make it impossible for the Republicans in Congress to oppose a liberal judge.


36 posted on 03/04/2012 8:14:28 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Irenic

Not a sir but the writer sounds more like a democrat to me than a republican.


37 posted on 03/04/2012 11:08:34 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THe e-GOP is politically to the left of Democratic Party that nominated Senator John F. Kennedy for President in 1960.


38 posted on 03/04/2012 11:16:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SumProVita

Birth control and the Devil. You know that’s what the hoi polloi are going to take away from their exposure to this candidate. Not to mention he is the most anti-gay candidate out there. I’m talking electability.

What does all this have to do with the tea party? Nada.


39 posted on 03/04/2012 6:03:45 PM PST by firebrand (M)
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To: Diogenesis

We can’t fight unethical use of government power with force, wherever it comes from, if that’s what you mean. Our only hope is in the realm of ideas.

Yet I’m not convinced Romney is a Muslim Marxist ineligible anti-Semitic wrecking ball to everything our country stands for.

Let’s say we don’t like either one, but they are not the same.


40 posted on 03/04/2012 6:08:54 PM PST by firebrand (M)
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To: Mr Rogers

We are in an emergency situation here. A homosexual on the NJ Supreme Court? As they say where I live, “That should be your worst problem.”


41 posted on 03/04/2012 6:14:18 PM PST by firebrand (M)
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To: firebrand

You seem to miss the point. If Romney governs like Obama, only slightly less so, then there is no reason to vote for him.

If he approached Supreme Court nominations the way Christie does, then he will nominate liberal activists to ‘get along’ with the Democrats in Congress - which is EXACTLY how he governed in Mass...

So why bother?


42 posted on 03/04/2012 6:50:12 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: firebrand

So I guess people can’t take a stand for moral fabric and virtue anymore?


43 posted on 03/04/2012 6:57:39 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mr Rogers

I didn’t say he would govern like Obama but less so. I don’t think you have been paying attention, either to what I said or to what Obama is doing.

Anyway, I detest Romney and am not trying to convince anyone to vote for him.


44 posted on 03/05/2012 1:13:23 AM PST by firebrand (M)
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To: SumProVita

It’s not really part of the tea party. That was the point. A limited point, I agree.

I guess I resented Santorum being called tea party and representative of the tea party by this numbskull. Shows he knows nothing about the issues.

If we insist on smaller government and the right to work, neither of which is a Santorum strong point, we could do all right. If we get into whether insurers have to provide free birth control we are toast. And that goes for any other distracting choir-boy issues as well.


45 posted on 03/05/2012 1:20:44 AM PST by firebrand (M)
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