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A Bid to Get Gingrich to Give Up Quest
The New York Times ^ | March 7, 2012 | Trip Gabriel and Michael D. Shear

Posted on 03/07/2012 9:22:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — For weeks, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich have been echoes of each other, both aiming their urgent verbal fire at Mitt Romney, the man they are desperate to stop from becoming the leader of the Republican Party.

But the political and geographical imperatives of two important Southern primaries next week are forcing the two men to turn on each other as they seek to demonstrate an ability to unite the party’s fickle conservative base.

It is a clash that has been building for weeks as both men circled each other warily, mindful that a shot at the White House was at stake. And it is a confrontation that Mr. Romney’s campaign welcomes — though it hopes neither candidate emerges as a threat.

On Wednesday, Mr. Santorum’s campaign and his allies turned gingerly to the urgent challenge: prodding Mr. Gingrich to abandon the race so that conservatives could unite behind Mr. Santorum’s candidacy against Mr. Romney. A top strategist for Mr. Santorum has been reaching out to a counterpart in the Gingrich campaign over the past three weeks to try to persuade Mr. Gingrich to withdraw for the good of the conservative movement.

Mr. Santorum said that anyone calling on Mr. Gingrich to withdraw was “not doing so with my knowledge.” But he made clear to reporters that he would not mind if it were to happen....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: freeperheadsexplode; gingrich; newt; romney; santorum
Ricky should drop out so the real conservative can go up against Milt, or agree to be Newt's running mate.
1 posted on 03/07/2012 9:22:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ahh that’s just politics! stay in there Newt!!! And I know you will.


2 posted on 03/07/2012 9:30:34 PM PST by malia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually Rick and Newt should stay into the bitter end because they can together deny RINOMNEY the nomination and force a brokered convention.

A brokered convention is the best alternative now because it means all the delegates will be freed to vote their conscience, and the floor speeches they will hear at the convention will be aimed at turning them.

Newt is by far the best visionary, the most powerful speaker and he should have a very good chance in this setting.

Many people are voting for Santorum because he is not Romney and they have been brainwashed by the negative ads taken out against Newt. Once the delegates at a brokered convention get a chance to meet Newt and to hear him up close, all their previous prejudices and biases can be dissolved.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 9:32:40 PM PST by Hostage (Looking for a slut who brings her own birth control.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if this is relevant, but I already had it in the chamber and wanted to post it somewhere.

This is march 7, 2012.

Here is a poll from March 10, 1980. Reagan should have dropped out.

ABC-Harris poll, March 10, 1980:
When pitted against President Carter among a cross section of 1,498 likely voters, Ford runs ahead by a 54-44 percent margin. By contrast , among the same voters , Reagan trails Carter by 58-40 percent .


4 posted on 03/07/2012 9:34:48 PM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I totally agree. Rick should drop and support Newt. Realistically, Newt Gingrich may be the only chance this country has to survive. Romney is Obama re-do, and Santorum has danced with unions a little too much and unions are one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess. They use political activism and lobbyists to leverage benefits to such high levels that companies are no longer competitive. The companies flee the country to escape the unions and extreme labor costs and all we are left with are government public workers that live off tax money taken from you and me.


5 posted on 03/07/2012 9:36:25 PM PST by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They need to cut the carp! I am durn sick of it! Santorum camp complains about disenfranchising and what in tarnation do they want to do but! Jackwads!

*snip*
“But, speaking to CNN, Santorum campaign adviser John Brabender brushed off the Romney campaign’s analysis as “voodoo math,” saying the figures were meant to dissuade voters from casting ballots for rival candidates.

“What he is saying he wants to do is disenfranchise Republican primary voters,” Brabender said, pointing out that many of the delegates currently awarded to Romney in estimates were non-binding. “

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/07/romney-santorum-camps-at-odds-over-delegate-math/


6 posted on 03/07/2012 9:37:01 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: ansel12

Reagan wasn’t getting 14-15% of the vote. That said, I am not one of those calling for Newt to bow out.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 9:40:44 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Irenic

Bahahaha! A Santorum campaign adviser pointing out that many of Romney’s delegates are unbound!

That;s rich!


8 posted on 03/07/2012 9:40:51 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately for Rick (and all conservatives), Newt can make the same argument about him. His path to victory is no more obvious than Newt’s at this point.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 9:47:45 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Newt dropped out, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he endorsed Romney.


10 posted on 03/07/2012 9:51:14 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saint Santorum oughta drop out. No one wants to hear about his past, which is his “program”. (As is Mittie’s!) Newt offers a program for the future, and so will Obamao!


11 posted on 03/07/2012 9:51:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Neither should drop out. The GOP establishment is pushing this nonsense so their man can get the nomination and those pesky conservatives must learn their place and do what they are told..don't you see

I'm for Newt I'll vote for Rick but I will never vote for Mutt. Its time the establishment faces the fact that their are many like me..

12 posted on 03/07/2012 9:53:17 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: ansel12

Hope you don’t mind....I just stole that little “factoid” and put it up on my Facebook! Thanks.


13 posted on 03/07/2012 10:01:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Fiji Hill; Revolting cat!

Actually Santorum is the Romney man, he endorsed him last time, and the parallels are chilling.

In 1996 he endorsed and campaigned for Arlen Specter for President, on the platform to remove the pro-life position from the Republican platform.

Rick Santorum admits that he was pro-abortion until his first run for office, 6 years after supposedly switching, he endorsed Specter’s Presidential run based on driving the pro-life movement out of the GOP.

This is the video of Specter’s announcement and platform, Santorum is there on stage endorsing it.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/64281-1

Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:

3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…

13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…

13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…

14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.

15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.

15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…

16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”


14 posted on 03/07/2012 10:07:30 PM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope Newt stays in to the bitter end.
At least he has the cajones to attack Omuslim where it hurts. Nobody else does.
Maybe some of what he says will filter into the thick heads of Americans come election day.


15 posted on 03/07/2012 10:11:58 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: goodnesswins

I don’t mind at all, get it out there as much as you can, but you need the source.

Before you take a position of promoting a piece of data, you have to be prepared to show your source if challenged, especially by a hostile challenger.

Here is the link. http://www.harrisinteractive.com/vault/Harris-Interactive-Poll-Research-FORD-LEADS-BOTH-CARTER-AND-REAGAN-ALTHOUGH-STILL-UNDECLARED-CANDIDATE-1980-03.pdf


16 posted on 03/07/2012 10:12:17 PM PST by ansel12
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To: goodnesswins

I think lawyers say, “never ask a question that you don’t already know the answer to”.

I’m a guy that loves to drop bombshells and unusual factoids, and I know to never drop a bomb shell or truly fascinating factoid, unless you are prepared for the obvious follow up questions, or obvious outraged challenges.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 10:16:43 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Ingtar

You are right, but man it sure shows how polling means nothing in regards to some questions, posed at the wrong, or inappropriate times.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 10:19:16 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Fiji Hill

You have to be unserious.

Newt started this race going after Obama.

Newt was on silent running in all those debates toward all candidates.

Newt finally picked it up against Romney, but held his fire (too dang long in my opinion) against Rick Santorum.

Newt is charging the South and just now getting around to pointing a little fire toward Rick, who was seen eager to pile on Newt going into Florida, even as it was rumored he, himself (Rick) was reportedly thinking of getting out after Newt blew out South Carolina.

THAT was graceless Rick’s quite unnecessary parting shot, exhibiting his grinding grudge against the giant, THE Speaker of the House.

Newt would have endorsed the ungrateful Santorum, the spoiled one, the whiner, cranky junior candidate, who would look better if he had just said to Newt, “Thank you”, for your graciousness to me and for your service in Congress.

Newt should probably hope for a contested convention where he could dump the back stabbing kid, but he won’t. Newt has dignity and love for the country and crawled through glass for the Republican Party. He would endorse The Brat.

However, the Brat when push comes to shove will ingratiate himself to the Liberal. Romney,of course.

Rick has always pinned his star to the Establishment, but for the campaign theatrics which he always performs but never legislated when he was in a position to do so.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 10:39:00 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frankly, some of Newt’s supporters are delusional. Why should Rick drop out? He has beaten Romney in 7 states, came extremely close in 3 others, and when he doesn’t win, he usually comes in second to Romney. Rick has shown he can connect with Midwestern and Southern voters. If Newt had won those states and was consisntently ahead in the polls in upcoming states, then you would have a case. At this point, to ask a 2nd place candidate to toss his support to a candidate who has done worse with the electorate than him makes no sense.

I also wonder why the Newt supporters must continue to try to prop up their candidate by using demeaning names towards Rick like “Little Ricky”, “Sanctimonium”, “Saint Rick”, etc. I do not attack Newt because he is not the enemy. Newt supporters put much more effort on here into attacking Santorum than Romney.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 12:26:10 AM PST by Pinkbell (Knock Romney Out - Vote for Santorum in Ohio/Oklahoma/Tennessee and Vote for Gingrich In Georgia)
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To: Pinkbell

I also wonder why the Newt supporters must continue to try to prop up their candidate by using demeaning names towards Rick like “Little Ricky”, “Sanctimonium”, “Saint Rick”, etc. I do not attack Newt because he is not the enemy. Newt supporters put much more effort on here into attacking Santorum than Romney.


Yes, why are Newt supporters so mean and nasty to us? To our candidate? I don’t have a problem with them not liking Santorum as much, and explaining why. But why all the mean spirited names and insults? I have criticized newt but also given him credit where it’s due.

The truth right now is that out there in the elections, where it counts, Santorum gets dang close to Romney where Romney wins. And just a small amount of newt’s votes would help santo beat Romney.


21 posted on 03/08/2012 12:34:49 AM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: Yaelle; RitaOK; ansel12
I also wonder why the Newt supporters must continue to try to prop up their candidate by using demeaning names towards Rick like “Little Ricky”, “Sanctimonium”, “Saint Rick”, etc. I do not attack Newt because he is not the enemy. Newt supporters put much more effort on here into attacking Santorum than Romney.

Yes, why are Newt supporters so mean and nasty to us? To our candidate? I don’t have a problem with them not liking Santorum as much, and explaining why. But why all the mean spirited names and insults? I have criticized newt but also given him credit where it’s due.

The truth right now is that out there in the elections, where it counts, Santorum gets dang close to Romney where Romney wins. And just a small amount of newt’s votes would help santo beat Romney.

Teradittos!

The attempts by some of the Newtbots to paint Santorum as a liberal are ludicrous. Sure, he endorsed Specter, who, as an incumbent, won the endorsement of other conservatives, but to my knowledge, he never bought into the global warming hoax, made a television commercial with Nancy Pelosi, or endorsed Dede Scozzafava, a "Republican" who is so far left as to make Dennis Kucinich look like Duncan Hunter.

And I, too am annoyed at the meanness and nastiness of some of the Newtbots. They remind me of the arrogant, know-it-all "Kennedy Liberals" that I so often encountered in the 1960's and 1970's.

22 posted on 03/08/2012 6:41:30 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Given the choice between Gingrich or Santorum it's no contest. Newt's the man. Santorum would probably lose to Obama.
23 posted on 03/08/2012 6:46:52 AM PST by McGruff (Sarah Palin: I voted for Newt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt is the only candidate who will tell you outright what he will do on day one to start restoring the constitutional republic. Mitt and Rick will need to study it. If you don’t have a plan to resolve the nation’s problems you should not be running for president.


24 posted on 03/08/2012 8:22:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ansel12

THANKS!!!! I love FR.....it’s like my personal encyclopedia and research staff!!!!


25 posted on 03/08/2012 8:31:43 AM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Fiji Hill
Sure, he endorsed Specter, who, as an incumbent, won the endorsement of other conservatives,

Did you look at that video, or transcript in post 14?

What other "conservatives" were trying to destroy the pro-life movement by supporting Specter for President?

26 posted on 03/08/2012 3:49:44 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
What other "conservatives" were trying to destroy the pro-life movement by supporting Specter for President?

I don't know. As far as I know, Specter never ran for president.

27 posted on 03/09/2012 10:27:29 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
Well if you continue to refuse to look at post 14, then you can keep lying to yourself.

"In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose.” "I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform"

This is the video of Specter’s announcement and platform, Santorum is there on stage applauding his words in full endorsement of his 1996 campaign.

For a partial transcript, see post 14.

28 posted on 03/09/2012 12:20:39 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

29 posted on 03/09/2012 3:08:04 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Really? You think doing the same endorsement in a Congressional race that was made by our Congressional leadership, (Cantor, Boehner, etc) is the same as trying to make the Republican party pro-abortion?

Did you watch that video of what Santorum was supporting?


30 posted on 03/09/2012 3:31:04 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Santorum is not pro-abortion.


31 posted on 03/09/2012 4:16:29 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Then why was Satorum trying to make the Republican party pro-abortion in 1996?

Attorney Santorum is open about his having been pro-abortion until he entered politics.


32 posted on 03/09/2012 4:41:58 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Attorney Santorum is open about his having been pro-abortion until he entered politics.

And Gingrich was once a Rockefeller Republican.

33 posted on 03/09/2012 6:34:53 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

That is disputed, but Santorum endorsing a candidate to remove the pro-life movement from the GOP is not, and again, the scale, do you really so casually dismiss a platform to remove life from the GOP platform?

By the way, Santorum was anti-Reagan during his presidency, and called his supporters “fringe’.

Attorney Santorum admits this, “I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress”.


34 posted on 03/09/2012 7:06:18 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
That is disputed, but Santorum endorsing a candidate to remove the pro-life movement from the GOP is not, and again, the scale, do you really so casually dismiss a platform to remove life from the GOP platform?

By the way, Santorum was anti-Reagan during his presidency, and called his supporters “fringe’.

Attorney Santorum admits this, “I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress”.

While you're at it, why don't you bring up the fact that Santorums ancestors were Communists, that many of his Italian relatives are Communists and that his grandfather came from Riva di Garda, a hotbed of leftists?

35 posted on 03/09/2012 7:44:16 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic

I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!

RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!

Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!


36 posted on 03/09/2012 7:51:49 PM PST by ansel12
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