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Newt Should Stay In
Race42012 ^ | March 16, 2012 | Barry Casselman

Posted on 03/16/2012 11:56:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I have known Newt Gingrich for 27 years, beginning at a time when he was relatively obscure except to C-SPAN devotees who saw him chronically criticizing the majority leadership in the U.S. house of representatives (he was a minority backbencher). That continued to the Republicans’ surprise upset victory (much of it designed by him) in the 1994 elections which led to him being elected speaker of the house, and then to his resignation four years later, followed by a decade-long career in speaking, creating public policy think tanks and authoring and co-authoring numerous books on American history.

Mr. Gingrich is one of the few men or women in American politics who is truly sui generis, and it has come to no surprise to those who know him that he would close out his elective career with a serious run for the presidency. That campaign, while not yet concluded, has included some of the characteristic ups and downs, highs and lows, brilliance and blunders that have marked his political life begun almost 40 years ago.

Newt Gingrich’s place in American political history is secure whether or not he wins his party’s nomination for president. It would now appear that he will not be the Republican nominee in 2012 (although in a political year such as this one, nothing is absolutely final until the delegate tally in Tampa).

Twice in this political cycle, Mr. Gingrich’s candidacy was written off, and twice he has re-emerged by force of his ideas, his debating ability and a gritty persistence. One more time, many in the media, both liberal and conservative, have decided his candidacy is over, or to employ a baseball analogy, that a third strike has been called on him, and he is out.

Thus, there are calls for Mr, Gingrich to withdraw gracefully from the contest, and allow Rick Santorum to duke it out with frontrunner Mitt Romney for the remaining delegates. I think nothing would be more inappropriate.

To those who view a presidential nominating campaign as purely a horse race and a clash of personalities, it is logical to call for Mr. Gingrich to withdraw. But there are fundamental flaws in this thinking at this time. First of all, although anything is possible, there is no reasonable chance that Mr. Santorum will be nominated in Tampa. He has had recent success because he was the only remaining candidate who spoke to the social and religious wing of his party, a wing which has felt its issues have not yet been expressed in this political cycle. But these concerns, however legitimate, are not the primary concerns of the majority of the Republican electorate. Nor even more conclusively are they the concerns of the majority of American voters, including the almost one-third who belong to no party and ascribe to no formal ideology. Why should Mr. Gingrich, who has received almost as many popular votes as Mr. Santorum so far, and who represents a much broader conservative view than the former Pennsylvania senator, now stand aside for him?

Secondly, it is a misunderstanding of Mr. Gingrich’s political personality to think he would withdraw at this point without what he would feel was his full contribution to the political conversation in such a pivotal political year.

Without Mr. Gingrich, the debates would have been far duller. Without some of his ideas, the GOP campaign would have been less original. And without his historical perspective, the critical nature of November election would have been less urgent and clear. My point is that, while the eventual GOP nominee may have been determined (Mr. Gingrich will understandably strongly disagree with me on this), the full nature of a potentially successful Republican challenge to President Obama has not been determined.

Count me as one of those who feels that a GOP nomination contest finally settled too early is neither good for the party nor good for the country. It will be apparent soon enough (probably in May or sooner) who the nominee will be. Meanwhile, let the conversation and the debate continue. Mr. Santorum should remain in the contest, as should Ron Paul. I don’t agree with some of what they advocate, but they represent legitimate points of view within their party. And most certainly, Newt Gingrich should remain in the race until he feels he has had his say and presented fully his case.

Mr. Gingrich has made his share of political mistakes, both before this campaign and now during it. He is a volatile personality who appeals to some voters, and turns others off. He is probably now not going to be president of the United States. But the Republican Party, and the Democratic Party, for that matter, have no one with comparable a vision of the past, present and future of this “exceptional” nation among the nations.

So let Newt Gingrich finish what he began. Let history write the truest account of what he has done.


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KEYWORDS: gingrich; gingrichdropout; newt; romney; santorum
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1 posted on 03/16/2012 11:57:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
followed by a decade-long career in speaking, creating public policy think tank

Working with Al Sharpton on education, Barney Frank on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and Nancy Pelosi. Conservatives worked with: 0. Conservative causes helped: 0.




I don't care whether he stays in or not. I just hope next time he runs as a Democrat.

2 posted on 03/17/2012 12:08:20 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s how to tell when it’s time for him to drop out. When Newt supporters tell him it’s time.

Naturally, Santorum supporters like me think he should drop out. And almost as naturally, Newt supporters think Santorum should drop out. All of us agree that Mitt should drop out. But when a supporter says his own candidate should step aside, that’s the beginning of the end.

I’ve noticed several such Newt supporters here on FR in the last few days suggesting it’s time for Newt to drop out.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 12:11:08 AM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/republican-presidential-candidate-former-house-speaker-newt-gingrich-photo-214214266.html


4 posted on 03/17/2012 12:18:13 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway

“Conservative causes helped:0”

“next time he runs as a democrat”

You are kidding...right???


5 posted on 03/17/2012 12:20:11 AM PDT by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should all drop out, and Paul Ryan should step in. It’s completely frustrating that we’re using our JV team when this is a Varsity game that’s being played.

Regardless of who our nominee ends up being, we must HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE and support as many conservatives as we can to fill the house and senate with like-minded people who will hold the line and then advance the cause of smaller, less-intrusive government.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 12:22:09 AM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: nickcarraway

Only one candidate campaigned for democrat votes in a republican primary.


7 posted on 03/17/2012 12:24:26 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway
I have heard over and over that Republicans refuse to work with or compromise on issues with Democrats. Mr. Newt has made an effort to make strides with the voters that the Democrats have brainwashed into thinking Republicans don't fight for minorities. He has made attempts to bring his point of view to many of the liberal ideas. Maybe it hasn't worked, but how can you fault him for making an effort to bring conservative ideas to the argument?

Democrats are genius's at making Republicans look like fools on just about every subject, and Republicans seem to make the same mistakes over and over. Republicans wanted to fix FannieMae and FreddieMac, but they lost every time due to the House and Senate. How can they do that if they never attempt to work with Democrats? Liberals shy away from facts, they just will not accept that Republicans have a different method of tackling these problems. I agree working with Nancy Pelosi may have been a bad idea, but I think he was right to try to influence the conversation with conservative ideas on the subject. I don't know all the facts about each of these cases, but I also do not believe his heart was in the wrong place by trying.

Mr. Newt was able to convince a great many Democrats to go along with many of his proposals when he was speaker. Even had to step on a few Republican toes to do it, which is why some Republicans still have their panties in a twist. Bush worked with Kennedy on No Child Left Behind. I am sure Santorum worked with many liberals on union projects because he is such a union representative. Are you going to hold that against him? Look at his voting record. Romney worked with an 85% liberal legislature, and look what happened in Massachusetts. He touts his record all the time about working with liberals. However, you only hold Mr. Newt to his record, how about theirs?

Mr. Newt will all his faults is still the most qualified to be President. Are you saying that he never worked on Conservative causes? How ignorant can you possibly be? You should take the time to watch the video “Newt Gingrich and the Republican Revolution” and then tell me he did not progress the conservative party on every issue. How about taking control of the House after 40 years of Democratic control? Get off your high horse and come back down to reality. Do your research. And by the way, Mr. Newt did not support cap and trade as Santorum continues to say. He also did not lobby for FannieMae and FreddieMac, another lie.

8 posted on 03/17/2012 12:46:23 AM PDT by Bobbisox (All American Conservative Mama Grizzly (MR. NEWT - 2012)(MS. SARAH - 2020))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great article. You damn right he should stay in. Obama’s recent attacks on Mr. Newt should tell you all you need to know. Has Romney or Santorum given good enough arguments that Obama’s fighting with them? NO.

EAGLES UP MR. NEWT...STAND AND FIGHT...AND WE WILL STAND WITH YOU.


9 posted on 03/17/2012 12:49:17 AM PDT by Bobbisox (All American Conservative Mama Grizzly (MR. NEWT - 2012)(MS. SARAH - 2020))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Which candidate said capitalism is evil? Gingrich. Which candidate said global warming is science? Gingrich. Which candidate portrayed conservatives as wackjob social engineers? Gingrich. Which candidate went on rant about how terrible conservatives are, because they dared to criticize him for trying to push Dede Scozzafava on them?


10 posted on 03/17/2012 12:53:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bobbisox
is still the most qualified to be President.

The United States does not need another Rockefeller Republican, ans especially a socialist like Gingrich.

11 posted on 03/17/2012 12:57:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bobbisox
is still the most qualified to be President.

The United States does not need another Rockefeller Republican, ans especially a socialist like Gingrich.

12 posted on 03/17/2012 12:57:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

A few mistakes in many years that Gingrich admitted were wrong.

Which candidate campainged for democrats to vote for him in a Republican primary and then laughed about it?

Since we are talking about who should run as a democrate you might not want to continue with this. LoL!


13 posted on 03/17/2012 1:02:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Bobbisox
How about taking control of the House after 40 years of Democratic control?

I am so sick of Gingrich taking credit for other people's work. The American people were responsible for 1994. And if any one man was responsible for 1994, it was Ronald Reagan. Gingrich and his supporters try to steal credit for what Reagan did. I'm sick of Gingrich supporters trashing Reagan. Gingrich isn't 1% of the man Reagan was.

Gingrich fought Reagan until he grabbed onto his coat tails. In 1968 Gingrich was the Southern Director for Rockfeller, the anti-Reagan. In 1974 and 1976, Gingrich ran to the left of his Georgia Democratic opponent. In 1976, Gingrich stood with Ford and Rockefeller against Reagan. In 1989, Gongrich cosponsored with Pelosi the 1989 version of Cap & Trade to destroy the economy. I'm sick of this revisionist history painting the man who said, "Clinton makes me melt," as any kind of conservative.

14 posted on 03/17/2012 1:06:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Do we believe an angry guy having a nervous breakdown on the internet, or Dick Cheney?

Cheney Tells CNN Not To Underestimate Newt Gingrich

15 posted on 03/17/2012 1:14:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
A few mistakes? Please tell me what that socialist ever did right. In 1994, he tried to get out in front of the tidal wave, but within 2 years he was trying to get them to back down on it. His conservative legend is all smoke and mirrors. Even this year he can't hide it. EVERY OTHER GOP candidate attacked Romney from the right, except for Gingrich, who used a, "capitalism is evil," attack he stole from Mother Jones magazine. And he is pushing a $100 trillion Muslim Moonbase, which will dwarf Social Security, Welfare, and Obamacare as the ultimate government program to takeover the economy. Let's face it, fiscally Gingrich is to the left of Romney. His grand "ideas" will strangle the private sector.
16 posted on 03/17/2012 1:14:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Berlin_Freeper
A few mistakes? Please tell me what that socialist ever did right. In 1994, he tried to get out in front of the tidal wave, but within 2 years he was trying to get them to back down on it. His conservative legend is all smoke and mirrors. Even this year he can't hide it. EVERY OTHER GOP candidate attacked Romney from the right, except for Gingrich, who used a, "capitalism is evil," attack he stole from Mother Jones magazine. And he is pushing a $100 trillion Muslim Moonbase, which will dwarf Social Security, Welfare, and Obamacare as the ultimate government program to takeover the economy. Let's face it, fiscally Gingrich is to the left of Romney. His grand "ideas" will strangle the private sector.
17 posted on 03/17/2012 1:14:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Okay, I get where you are coming from. RINOland. I’m not angry. I’m just amazed people are buying into this charade. One year ago, people on FR knew the Gingrich. Unfortunately, Romney has tricked many people into supporting Gingrich.


18 posted on 03/17/2012 1:17:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bobbisox

I find it hilarious you refer to Gingrich, an adult male, like a character on a PBS Children’s show. Why can’t Gingrich supporters like a real adult male.


19 posted on 03/17/2012 1:19:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You said Gingrich should run as a democrat.

On the one hand we have Gingrich who admits mistakes. While on the other hand we have Sick Sanatorium who laughs about campaigning to have democrats vote for him in a Republican primary.

When a person admits a mistake then he can be blamed for making the mistake but you keep blaming him as if he never said it was a mistake. Which is only something an angry guy having a breakdown would insist on spamming and wasting peoples time with.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 1:21:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway

“And he is pushing a $100 trillion Muslim Moonbase, which will dwarf Social Security, Welfare, and Obamacare as the ultimate government program to takeover the economy.”

Please cite reference material for this ridiculous statement.


21 posted on 03/17/2012 1:23:34 AM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you want Newt to drop out it can only mean you want Romney to win. I voted for Newt in Alabama, and those who didn’t most likely are uninformed voters. I had 2 people ask me who to vote for on election day. They had no clue. They sit in front of the TV and soak in all the propaganda, but never research the politicians who will be controlling their lives. Then they go vote based on the most prominent catch phrase they remember seeing on tv without a clue about their leadership skills. I have researched the candidates and Newt is the only one I could vote for.


22 posted on 03/17/2012 1:27:42 AM PDT by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

You never Gingrich talking about his moonbase by 2020?


23 posted on 03/17/2012 1:33:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
"....especially a socialist like Gingrich. "

You are free to dislike him, but with all do respect, I think this is too harsh.  I know socialist; I lived under their oppressive regime for 30 years.

 

24 posted on 03/17/2012 1:34:58 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: nickcarraway

Wow you’re irritating! Okay, you don’t like Gingrich. That doesn’t make you better or smarter, or your chosen candidate for that matter. All candidates the candidates are flawed. People just have different criteria for evaluating candidates. So please stop trying to be the most angry, bitter & arrogant person on FR. What do you think you’re adding to the discussion by acting this way?

Cindie


25 posted on 03/17/2012 1:39:22 AM PDT by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: gardencatz
I'm not trying to be angry or bitter. I'm happy. I just think the truth should be out there. I'm not going to let fear of Romney blind me.


That doesn’t make you better or smarter, or your chosen candidate for that matter.

Why is my opinion bad, and other peoples are okay. The Gingrich people are free to say anything they want. I personally didn't even want Santorum to run. I don't think he's a good candidate. But that doesn't stop Gingrich from being orders of magnitude worse. One of the reason's I came to Free Republic in 1999 was because of what was going on with Clinton. And one of those things was Gingrich backstabbing this country. It amazes me that Gingrich can be so popular on here now, when he was so reviled in 1999, and 2006, and 2009, and even May of 2011, when he attacked conservatives as right wing social engineers.

26 posted on 03/17/2012 1:50:20 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: OneHun

Which socialist country did you live in? I didn’t say Gingrich was the worst socialist. Even Bush had a lot of socialism. It doesn’t mean they were Stalin, but it isn’t good, either.


27 posted on 03/17/2012 1:51:35 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: gardencatz

Cindie, I am just sad so many good conservative people are being taken in by a man who doesn’t like or respect them.


28 posted on 03/17/2012 1:53:20 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
"Which socialist country did you live in?"

I lived in Romania, but I am a native Hungarian.

29 posted on 03/17/2012 2:12:48 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: nickcarraway

Which candidate campaigned for a nominee who’s platform was to end the pro-life movement and make the GOP pro-abortion? Santorum. Which candidate thought of Reagan’s supporters as the right-wing fringe? Santorum. Which candidate wanted Specter for president in 1996, and Romney for President in 2008? Santorum. Which candidate campaigned as a “Progressive Conservative” and printed his campaign literature as such? Santorum. Which candidate admits that he was pro-abortion until it was time to run for office? (besides Romney) Santorum.


30 posted on 03/17/2012 2:19:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: OneHun

Beszelsz Magyarul? I was raised by my grandparents and they spoke it. I was in Hungary in the ‘80”s.


31 posted on 03/17/2012 2:29:36 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt should stay in because Romney sucks. Santorum sucks even more.


32 posted on 03/17/2012 3:16:33 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Heaven protect us from what evil men do in the name of good.)
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To: ebshumidors

"Beszelsz Magyarul?"

Igen, mert magyar az anyanyelvem.  =  Yes, because Hungarian (Magyar) is my mother tong.

"I was raised by my grandparents and they spoke it. I was in Hungary in the ‘80”s."

I am glad to hear about your background.  I hope you liked visiting Hungary.  It was my escape route from Transylvania to Austria in mid 80’s.

 

33 posted on 03/17/2012 3:17:03 AM PDT by OneHun
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To: OneHun

ertem. koszonem szepen.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 3:28:25 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: nickcarraway

Working with Al Sharpton show Newt is the man with vision and compassion for all. We should all work to give a new fresh start for those inner-city kids.


35 posted on 03/17/2012 3:48:28 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: nickcarraway

“Conservative causes helped: 0”

Dude are You Nieve or just plain dumb.

Georgia is a Republican state largely because of Newt.

His 1994 Contract with America where he actively recruit new conservative members to congress.


36 posted on 03/17/2012 3:53:28 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: nickcarraway

“The American people were responsible for 1994.”

But ask yourself why. Because Newt had a plan and actively campaigned for it. You actually think winning the majority just fell into our lap.

He had a daring plan and actually pulled it off.


37 posted on 03/17/2012 3:57:14 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: nickcarraway
Working with Al Sharpton on education, Barney Frank on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and Nancy Pelosi. Conservatives worked with: 0. Conservative causes helped: 0. I don't care whether he stays in or not. I just hope next time he runs as a Democrat.

My God man, the stress is driving you over the edge.

38 posted on 03/17/2012 4:25:27 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All
Do we believe an angry guy having a nervous breakdown on the internet, or Dick Cheney?

Ah, you get it...

I am so tired of the Newt detractors here, please go man the phones for Santorum or something.

What they don't get? When Bob Michael's was too busy licking the Boots of Speaker Foley, Newt was engineering a bloodless insurrection and it worked and many especially the Dems were shocked.

This isn't his 1st rodeo. Against all odds he is planning a insurrection again if he can address the crowd in Tampa. They will have a 76' moment, i.e. of Newt's Speech which if like Reagan's ( in 76'), wakes up the delegates as they say aw $Hi+ we voted for the wrong guy ( in Ford ).

But this time they get a Mulligan, and could jump ship from Obamney and Ricardo, and it will be a time for choosing as the Republic hangs in the balance, let us hope they come to their senses.

Pray for this Doug Flutie Hail Marry Pass. More importantly, I want someone I can vote for that has the balls to get things done, I don't see it in the other two. Even if Newt looses, I go in their and vote for conscious and know I did the best I could, and not vote for the evil of 2 lessers, If I am gonna loose I want to go down swinging. The other 2, I'd be dancing around the may-pole...

39 posted on 03/17/2012 4:43:34 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t really want any of the three running the country. But any one of them is better than what we have.
Of the three I guess Newt is my choice.

My candidate is cooling her heels in Wasilla.

When she dropped out of the running(never really entered) my enthusiasm for the 2012 election went from 100 to zero faster than a semi hitting a mountain emergency runoff.


40 posted on 03/17/2012 4:50:33 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: nickcarraway
The United States does not need another Rockefeller Republican, ans especially a socialist like Gingrich.

LOL! This is not only laughable, it's hysterical!

Just because you are ignorant of what Gingrich keeps trying to do does not make him a socialist. You're obviously one of these who doesn't understand Newt because you do not see the perspective from history which he takes.

I saw an interview with Newt one time where the interviewer asked him why he talks to the NYT when all they do is crucify him? Newt essentially said in order to make your points you have to convince people. Liberals are people! You can't get a point across by ignoring them.

I don't know if you remember this, but Newt held an (8?) member debate in congress one time on C-SPAN. It was brilliant because it showed the absolute ignorance of liberals about the subject. Newt skewered them!!

Newt is conservative as they come!

41 posted on 03/17/2012 5:20:58 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: nickcarraway
Conservatives worked with: 0. Conservative causes helped: 0.

Wow. You lie as easily as Obama does.

42 posted on 03/17/2012 5:41:55 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Kevmo

This is not one of them. Statist apologists and third column activists have forced every constitutional conservative, 10th Amendment committed federalist to withdraw except notably, Newt Gingrich.

I’ll go to the wall before agreeing to support progressives of ANY flavor, like Santorum or Romney. Thank you very much, but no.


43 posted on 03/17/2012 5:43:49 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt should stay in the race. He does scare me, but I do know, acquaintances of mine that are liberal are MORE scared of him.


44 posted on 03/17/2012 6:27:50 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt should stay in. He’s the only one of the 4 who does not have a sissy voice. He could really debate Obalgae - the other 3 hum and haw while trying to think of a response. Newt is straightforward. Newt reminds me of Winston Churchill. We need Newt Gingrich at this time in history.


45 posted on 03/17/2012 8:49:59 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Which candidate campainged for democrats to vote for him in a Republican primary and then laughed about it?

Who campaigned for a radically liberal Republican and against a Tea party candidate in New York 23?

46 posted on 03/17/2012 9:18:17 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan

Who endorsed Specter who then was the deciding vote for Obamacare in the US Senate?


47 posted on 03/17/2012 9:29:55 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Right_in_Virginia

You fail to mention the conservatives worked with or conservative causes helped, because there weren’t any. Al Sharpton, Nancy Pelosi, and Dede Scozzfava aren’t conservatives.


48 posted on 03/17/2012 9:35:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: taildragger
..."evil of 2 lessers".

Classic line there!

49 posted on 03/17/2012 10:52:31 AM PDT by bondserv (Regarding Mitt Romney: I could not warm up to this guy if we were cremated together.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With 175,000 Newt donors, if each donor gave an additional $200 each (on average) that would be $35 million.


50 posted on 03/17/2012 11:51:53 AM PDT by Bizhvywt
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