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I Donít Want to Date a Republican!
The Jewish Journal of Los Angeles ^ | March 23, 2012 | Tamara Shayne Kagel

Posted on 03/23/2012 7:43:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As a lifelong Democrat, I never thought I would be in this place. I never thought I would have to confront this dreaded unforeseen fear - the terror that is for me, dating a Republican. I don’t even know very many Republicans. But it turns out, I’m not alone. Outside of Washington D.C., the entire country is pretty segregated when it comes to political parties. According to dating website, seven out of ten people are in a relationship with someone of the same political persuasion. I grew up knowing very few Republicans and the rare ones I did know got made fun behind their backs, be it children or adults. I know there were some Republicans at my college because there was a “College Republicans” group on campus but this was the Bushy era and the conservatives who were smart enough to get into my university were too smart to be vocal defenders of the Dick Cheney puppet show that was the aughts. I’ve been living in Los Angeles ever since in the type of place where at the moment President Obama was pronounced the winner of his race, we threw open our windows and whooped and shrieked out into the streets till an impromptu parade erupted and bars served free drinks. I cried. I’ve worked for the Democratic Party, interned for a Democratic Congressman and Senator. And even though I went to a more conservative law school, there were enough liberals on campus that if you included the faculty, we could flock together so that I rarely interacted with those others who met with our derision.

So when I tell you I never thought I would date a Republican, it’s not because I really contemplated it and made a specific decision. It’s because as long as I didn’t drive to Orange County, my chances of actually running into one felt slim to none. We live in a birds-of-a-feather type of country. So how did I get to here? How did I come to date a man who told me he “liked a lot of Mitt Romney’s ideas” and that he thought John Kerry wasn’t really a war hero and that cap and trade is a terrible system. At first I didn’t think it would be a big issue. I fell in love with someone who has many similar interests and a big generous heart and when he told me he was an Independent I thought that was just something moderate Democrats said when being pretentious about how non-conformist they are. I didn’t realize I was dating someone who would spend every single Tuesday night glued to Wolf Blitzer’s analysis of another Republican primary. And to be frank, at this point, it’s making me freak out. I get mad at him just thinking about our past political discussions. I can’t date a Republican! What was I thinking? What if I have little Republican babies?

Naturally, he doesn’t think it’s a big deal. He keeps saying we can always find common ground. But I find myself angry with him for things that I expect to take for granted. He admitted to me that the word “liberal” for him had a bad connotation and that the word “conservative” did not. It’s hard to blame him when this is a common phenomena in our country now so that only 20% of the population identifies as liberal while 40% is willing to identify as conservative. I tell him this is a direct result of the vitriol that Fox News and Rush Limbough and Glen Beck have injected into our discourse and he shouldn’t buy into their demonizing of the left. But for my boyfriend, “liberal” means big government inefficiency. I’m normally a calm person, but when he said this, I was close to flipping out. How could he buy into all that? He’s a smart person, he reads reputable news sources. And yet, I continually find myself mad at him for buying into conservative propaganda.

Everyone always points to Mary Matalin and James Carville as shining examples of a couple with different political beliefs and a stable marriage. But honestly, have you seen them bicker on tv? I love watching them but I don’t want to fight like that in my home. I want my home to be a place of tranquility and calm and little social justice fighters playing pin your favorite president on the blue donkey.

Another burgeoning concern is that I’m starting to feel like I always have to watch what I say. Yes, I know there are many intelligent Republicans out there and if the party was made up of just David Frums and Christopher Buckleys or even Mitt Romneys, they’d be a reasonable moderate party that I have an intellectual disagreement with and there wouldn’t be anything to make fun of. But for now, there are a lot of crazy extremist kooks running the Republican party and when you get into Santorum territory and Palin country, I want the freedom to openly mock and deride in a forum where I don’t have to worry about offending someone. Is that so wrong? I’m sick of back-peddling every time I accidentally call them teabaggers.

Months ago, we got to talking about Ron Paul, or rather, my boyfriend got to telling me all about him. Although, we don’t disagree that much on social issues, we disagree quite a bit about how influential social issues should be when it comes to casting a ballot, so we started to really get into it. At one point, I said that certain individual rights and liberties should be the most important issue and I was disappointed in my boyfriend because he was willing to forgo those liberties in order to “make a buck.” He was offended and hurt. Admittedly, I went too far and I believe he is compassionate for those less fortunate and I know he doesn’t think he’s sacrificing civil rights for money. But I was making an impassioned argument and this is how liberals talk when we’re amongst friends. To stay in my relationship, I must resolve myself somewhat to being more careful in my language now when talking about fiscal conservatives but in so doing, is that the best decision for a healthy relationship? No one wants to have to walk on eggshells around their partner.

Last week, I went over to my boyfriend’s to watch the HBO docudrama Game Change about Palin’s Vice Presidential bid over some wine and take-out. When it was over, I felt bad for John McCain, but outraged at all the doltish hicks who were venerating this ignorant backwards woman who reveled in her lack of knowledge. My boyfriend on the other hand, said he felt bad for her.

How can you feel bad for her? I was shocked. Why is it always the Republican party that nominates idiots? Joe the Plumber, Christine O’Donnell. Democrats would never allow someone who didn’t understand what the “fed” was to run for city councilman let alone the Vice-Presidency.

How much do you really know about what the Fed does? He shot back.

I almost lost it. In that moment, he was impugning my knowledge and at the same time defending Sarah Palin. I was livid. How can I build my life with someone who defends Sarah Palin and thinks “liberal” is a dirty word? We went back and forth for a while with me spouting off economic knowledge and him keeping my rhetoric in check. But I went to bed angry that night.

I know we’re not supposed to try to change our significant others, but I can’t help but hope that I might be able to make a tried and true blue Democrat out of him. It’s worked somewhat so far, as I’ve been able to convince him that John Kerry really was a war hero and that Mitt Romney has backtracked on climate change. And maybe I am better off calling them teapartyers and aside from adjusting interest rates I don’t really know that much about the Fed. Congress recently passed the first Bi-partisan piece of legislation in years so if they can do it, surely two people who love each other and share many of the same values can find common ground as well. Now, if I could only get him to start watching Bill Maher with me…


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How revealing.
1 posted on 03/23/2012 7:43:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not sure—is this supposed to be satire? It’s so hard to tell with liberals.


2 posted on 03/23/2012 7:46:50 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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We report, you decide: GUILTY or NOT GUILTY?

3 posted on 03/23/2012 7:47:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I know we’re not supposed to try to change our significant others, but I can’t help but hope that I might be able to make a tried and true blue Democrat out of him.”

Most states have laws against vacuuming 90% of his brain matter out.


4 posted on 03/23/2012 7:47:10 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
John Kerry really was a war hero...

ROFLMAO!

5 posted on 03/23/2012 7:47:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone tell the “boyfriend” to LOSE her!


6 posted on 03/23/2012 7:48:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would never deal with a Democrat either.


7 posted on 03/23/2012 7:48:28 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BFL!


8 posted on 03/23/2012 7:48:39 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never date a rat.You’ll get something that ajax wont remove.


9 posted on 03/23/2012 7:48:45 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an immature loser... Dump her, she’s stupid


10 posted on 03/23/2012 7:49:20 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Some "unifier" in the White House, huh)
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To: Revolting cat!

Now, I’d hit that. LOL


11 posted on 03/23/2012 7:50:10 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eww.

No Republican wants to date you either.

Sorry.


12 posted on 03/23/2012 7:50:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: ottbmare

That’s what I was thinking. Now I’m not sure. Can someone be that far out?


13 posted on 03/23/2012 7:50:28 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Revolting cat!

How ‘bout stupid ?


14 posted on 03/23/2012 7:50:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

a self absorbed liberal that enjoys talking about herself, while accomplishing nothing....how unique (rolling eyes)


15 posted on 03/23/2012 7:51:04 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The “boyfriend” should have his head examined for having anything to do with this nutjob.
16 posted on 03/23/2012 7:51:04 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tamara, you ignorant slut . . .


             (some lines are timeless)

17 posted on 03/23/2012 7:51:23 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Betchca she has inflate to 32 lbs on the side of her head.....


18 posted on 03/23/2012 7:51:29 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Sorry honey, your “boyfriend” sounds like a homosexual who lets you keep his testicles in a tiffany box.


19 posted on 03/23/2012 7:52:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You might want to save him (the Republican) for when you are ready to marry and settle down.


20 posted on 03/23/2012 7:53:01 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: ottbmare
She likes Bill "cu%t" Maher and wants someone to watch him with her? She must really like misogynous jerks.

And she can't get a date? Really? All she needs to do is go to the nearest homeless shelter, or drunk tank, or OWS tent. Lotsa "prizes" to be found.

21 posted on 03/23/2012 7:55:07 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has to be satire.


22 posted on 03/23/2012 7:55:24 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: DarthVader

I dated Dumocraps during my university days...

They were good for 2 things: sex and nothing else. I had my conversations with another steady girlfriend and if she was on PMS, I called up the Dem sex friend.


23 posted on 03/23/2012 7:56:16 PM PDT by max americana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I feel for this woman. She’s fallen hook, line and sinker for the “I can change him... all he need is the love of a good woman!” (Been there.)

She needs to break up with him and seek therapy. Politics have nothing to do with what ails her.


24 posted on 03/23/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he likes Mitt Romneys ideas, what makes her think he’s a republican?


25 posted on 03/23/2012 7:56:26 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: PGR88

The “boyfriend” is brainwashed.

Does the woman actually want a brainwashed guy?

Seriously. A guy without an independent brain.

Really?

I’d just point out to the ‘lady’, that a whole lot of Republicans, were once democrats.

There’s a reason they’re not, anymore.

They woke the “f*” up. From the exact brainwashing she has.

Bubble-head is not attractive.


26 posted on 03/23/2012 7:56:42 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here is a video of them driving in a car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhm7-LEBznk


27 posted on 03/23/2012 7:56:55 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I’ll bet a week at any “Occupy” camp would turn her into a Goldwater Republican!!


28 posted on 03/23/2012 7:57:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, is this the only thing little princess has to worry about?
Can’t WAIT until her 401K and savings are cleaned out and her taxes go up and her groceries cost 15% more and her electricity costs too much and her car breaks down and her health care disappears....

Idiot. Maybe she’ll break a nail and have to be institutionalized-then, she won’t have to worry her petty head-—(I MEANT that typo.)


29 posted on 03/23/2012 7:58:14 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She need to look up the definition of the word bigot


30 posted on 03/23/2012 7:58:50 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fifteen years ago, I would have thought this was humor or something


31 posted on 03/23/2012 7:59:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wasn’t it Jonathan Edward’s wife who said she did not know any Republicans, but knew there was one living nearby, and she was frightened of him?


32 posted on 03/23/2012 8:02:02 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: SandyInSeattle
She needs to break up with him and seek therapy.

After being with her, I'd suspect that the boyfriend would benefit from some serious therapy as well.

33 posted on 03/23/2012 8:02:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Her web page:

http://www.tamarashaynekagel.com/Tamara_Shayne_Kagel/Home.html


34 posted on 03/23/2012 8:04:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://mobile.twitter.com/tamaraskagel


35 posted on 03/23/2012 8:05:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’ll bet a week at any “Occupy” camp would turn her into a Goldwater Republican!!

I was thinking Detroit, but Okay.

36 posted on 03/23/2012 8:05:45 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Wow. If I were him, I’d marry her, just to kill her off for the insurance money.

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


37 posted on 03/23/2012 8:05:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Try the earlier, hilarious, look at inter-party dating - from Breitbart’s Big Hollywood site, I give you “My Weekly Date With a Liberal”:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2009/02/04/My-Weekly-Date-with-a-Liberal


38 posted on 03/23/2012 8:07:19 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a lifelong Democrat, I never thought I would be in this place. I never thought I would have to confront this dreaded unforeseen fear - the terror that is for me, dating a Republican.

Not such an issue. Who wants to deal with a woman who's sole purpose is to make everyone else's life a living hell. Is there any other definition for a democrat?

39 posted on 03/23/2012 8:08:41 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Revolting cat!

Hit it and quit it.

You are not paying a prostitute for sex, you’re paying her to leave and not say “call me” on her way out.


40 posted on 03/23/2012 8:08:54 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did I come to date a man who told me he “liked a lot of Mitt Romney’s ideas”.....

See he's not really a conservative after all.

41 posted on 03/23/2012 8:09:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: ottbmare

My thoughts exactly. She is either a Rush Dittohead or a complete blithering idiot.


42 posted on 03/23/2012 8:10:06 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: kcvl
Easy tag. Just say how much you love Obama, how Republicans are stupid, and gosh you've lost weight. (For now).

Come back in 10 years and see how "gorgeous" she once was.

43 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:04 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As usual, no substance. Trite, superficial and narrow minded. Typical Leftist.


44 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Ask the lib to explain their co-travelers - Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Castro, Noriega, Chavez. And lib support of slavery here in the USA!


45 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Orchestrated failure will be the excuse for government take over.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How revealing.

No kidding! I converted an old girlfriend and my current one to the conservative side.

46 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read the rest of her stuff....she’s a pathetic freak.


47 posted on 03/23/2012 8:13:12 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: boop

Case in point:

The blond from Top Gun.

No offense intended. But she seems these days ... unhappy.


48 posted on 03/23/2012 8:14:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: ottbmare

My thoughts exactly. She is either a Rush Dittohead or a complete blithering idiot.


49 posted on 03/23/2012 8:15:13 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Care to explain please, what’s wrong with being a “Rush Dittohead”?

TIA.


50 posted on 03/23/2012 8:16:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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