Skip to comments.The True Cost of Romney, Part 1
Posted on 04/26/2012 7:24:26 PM PDT by Windflier
...recognize that the election of the likes of Romney will make a successful run by an actual conservative, an actual Republican, an actual patriot, an actual candidate who will not sell out on each and every issue of actual importance to conservatives, an actual POTUS who can rally Republicans, conservatives, Reagan Democrats and genuine independents to the cause of restoring and preserving Western Civilization in this nation, as opposed to obsessing on paying off his rich friends and bailing out his incompetent Wall Street boodlers and peers, unlikely until at least 2016.
In the event that Romney loses now, or in the more difficult event that he can be successfully forced out in just four years, then conservatives (actual conservatives) can succeed in 2016.
If Romney is nominated and re-nominated in 2016, the earliest victory would be in 2020, and only if conservatives can convince the public that Romney's manifest liberal failures are NOT the responsibility of whatever party will by then be the actual opposition party to the Demonrats.
Neither 2016 nor 2020 look promising but, from the perspective of the disaster that was Gerald Ford's nomination in 1976, neither did 1980 look promising. No candidate who ran this year is an analogy to Reagan's run in 1976 which was necessary to his 1980 landslide over the worthless Carter (Obozo I) and to the defeat of a net 12 radical Demonrats (possibly excepting Talmadge) in the US Senate of the time, as well as of Jacob Javits, George McGovern, Gaylord Nelson, Herman Talmadge, Robert Morgan, Frank Church, Birch Bayh, and John Durkin, all defeated that year in the general.
Such an election in 2016 will be possible IF and only if the above-described actually conservative folks can settle long in advance on ONE and only ONE extremely capable candidate, burning with a true raging flame and dedicated above all to the babies, to gun rights, to preserving one man and one woman as the one and only form of marriage to be recognized in our nation now and forever, cutting taxes not on the greedy Wall Street pigs who have created the economic disaster and tragedy that Obozo gladly perpetuates (with their heavy financial support just as they supported Clinton twice and just as they supported Romney in this year's primaries) but on ordinary Americans, to restoring the jobs of those who fought our wars and who would work with their hands for a living, to preserving the rights of the Catholic Church to which I belong, and every other faith and church in this country to which other folks of good will and good faith belong, and which are consistent with Natural Law and Western Civilization, and to ruthlessly lancing every infectious pus pocket of special interest big shot corruption regardless of party identification, organize as conservatives have never organized before.
Such a 2016 candidate should have a demonstrated capability and track record for both good humor and also for actually fighting and verbally destroying the enemy within and without the GOP, to chase the corrupt money changers from the temple of our party, to diplomatically support similarly committed and principled candidates in Senate, House, and Governorship primaries to take the party back from the slimy degenerate liberals who would dominate it under Romney, to hold Romney relentlessly to conservative GOP principles for each and every moment that his lavishly special interest funded, despicable campaign of lies, slanders, and libels against each and every decent GOP opponent enabled him to have, NEVER to forget that campaign and NEVER to fail to hold it against Romney and his supporters.
Likewise, such a movement must seek to hold each and every "GOP" slimeball and Elitocrat in GOP drag in the Senate such as LAMAR!!! Alexander, Bob Corker, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Murkowski, Mark "Nancyboy" Kirk, Scott Brown, John Cornyn, John McCain, Thad Cochrane, Susan Collins, Richard Lugar, Saxby Chambliss, John Isakson, and any others like them including probably the modern day spineless Orrin Hatch, to actual conservative Republican standards and not to sell out their constituents' interests to satisfy Romneyism or to give in-house GOP aid and comfort to Romneyism in any way inconsistent with conservatism.
I urge you to vote your conscience. Either you have one worth respecting or you do not. To remind you....character is how you behave when no one is watching (as in the voting booth). Either you have it or you don't. You cannot depend on blaming others if you don't measure up. That lack of character is what we have in the White House now, and it is what we will have in the White House if Obozo is defeated by the Massachusetts Mushball and Serial Liar. I am not ready to sell my country down the river yet by voting for either of them. If you are willing to vote for the Mittwit and he succeeds in buying the White House and its power with his relentless well-funded lies, then prepare to face responsibility for his every crime, moral deviation, and moral abdication of responsibility while in office. Just remember not to dare blame actual conservatives or actual Republicans or actual Americans who have understandably refused to support either of them for the near certain evils of the next four years.
You don't need advice from me as to how you should vote any more than I need your advice on that subject. Just bear in mind that, if you vote for Romney and therefore for the destruction of the GOP and of the republic, as between thee and me, there is not and never will be a "we."
It does not matter that you voted for Newt Gingrich in the primaries, or for anyone else. Vote for Romney in the general election and you have defined yourself for the foreseeable future.
Anyone claiming to be a conservative who would sell out to Romney running as the Romney that conservatives well know him to be, need not be accused of a poverty of imagination and a poverty of commitment and, for that matter, of a poverty of principle, as each of those is patently obvious. No accusations are necessary. To vote for any old moneyed POS so long as he, she or it is a "Republican" POS invertebrate, is neither imaginative, nor evidence of commitment nor, to say the very least, evidence of conservative principle.
Understand that what elected Ronaldus Maximus was, in addition to his amiable and genial exterior and sense of humor and adherence to principle, a generation (my generation) of extremely angry but principled grass roots conservatives who despised the likes of Rockefeller, Ford, Nixon, Dole, Michel, Romney the Elder, Scranton, Ed Brooke, Jacob Javits, Charles Mathias, Robert Planned Barrenhood Packwood, Tom Kuchel, Lowell Weicker, and their ilk. We did not think much more of Bush the Elder.
No one thought we could defeat the GOP-E, much less elect a man derided as a second-rate B-movie actor to the White House. We did. I doubt that many of you were part of what was necessary to do that. It took backbone and character and a militant refusal to compromise with the evil that would use money to control the GOP and its policies. That's what we have done and what we can do and what we must do. Maybe Mittens can get you a nice job on Wall Street since money, in his mind, can buy just about anything and anyone and you don't drive a very hard bargain.
The potential candidate exists and did not run this year. That candidate does not qualify as a "White Knight," but rather as a Lady. Thatcher did a pretty good job in socialist England. Sarah would do a very good job here. Other backup candidates need to be developed and a new conservative movement needs to be recruited, trained in ideology and in ground warfare tactics, mobilized and networked and to wage an internal GOP civil war like the one in the 1960s and 1970s, and with a similar result.
Also, bear in mind, that the GOP Elite despised and abandoned Ronaldus Magnus through much of 1980 and he trailed in the polls until the Friday before the election, when the decisive shift among those who became known as Reagan Democrats and independent voters began to show in the polls, the lamestream media refused to report those polls from Saturday through election day, and Reagan administered his first definitive slaughter of national Demonrats including Carter and the Senatorial and Congressional Demonrats, carrying 44 states, including Taxachusetts and every state in New England not named Rhode Island, New York (coming close to carrying even New York City itself by massive support from Catholics and Orthodox Jews), New Jersey, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Pennsylvania, California, and thirty more, losing only Georgia, Minnesota, Maryland, West Virginia, Rhode Island and Hawaii. In 1984, he beat Mondale in all but Minnesota where Reagan showed mercy by cancelling two full days of scheduled Minnesota campaigning on the Saturday and Sunday before election day.
Am I doing a "crap job" of selling you on this vision? Who was selling? Part of building the necessary movement is excluding those afflicted by tunnel vision. If a candidate wants your vote, that doesn't mean I am seeking your vote for such a candidate. Whether you realize it or not, "the dominant two-party system we have," is in effect, that the Demonrats and the Romneycans are simply two heads of the same evil beast. That leads to the inevitable conclusion that we are expected to choose between Obozo and Obozo Lite. I won't.
If Romney and his sycophants want conservative votes, he and they will have to do the selling. That is too demanding and doomed a job by far for any rational person. It is time for Governor Etch-a-Sketch to go back to being what we all know he is: anti-baby, anti-marriage, anti-gun, anti-worker, anti-American, etc., and the devoted love slave of moneyed leftist interests, and try to compete with Obozo for the votes of Obozo's base who are far closer to Romney than he is to conservatives and to the values and morals we actual conservatives hold dear.
Winning wars isn’t just all glory.
Sometimes the commanders are FUBAR and its a matter of the enlisted types to make progress in matters of inches in horrible conditions.
We all know that even if Romney wins there will be no parade for the conservative battle.
It will be a long slog.
I plan on electing some good enlisted men down ballot.
Keep up the good work. Michelle and I are proud of your work on our behalf. Like good ole Eric H says, four more years. Again, we thank you for your efforts, much appreciated. Our good friend Rev Al sends his regards, resist we much.
Barack Hussein Obama
John Boehner's doing a pretty good job at that now.
Good. Let him go 'scorched earth' on us. Maybe then, patriotic conservatives and other Americans will find their spines and start fighting back for real.
Elect the stealth liberal Romney, and no such thing will happen, though he'll be pushing nearly the same agenda.
You’re a regular here. Surely, you’ve read hundreds of well-reasoned posts that lay out the case against voting for Romney.
Obviously, none of that reasoning has swayed you. Why? Please lay out a reasoned case FOR Romney.
When you know you are standing on the shoulders of our forefathers and being a warrior for truth at the very depths of the soul in all that you do and say, it is a fight worth fighting.
That doesn’t minimize the backlash, however, from those who don’t get it. And they don’t. ...get it.
I wouldn’t be able to live with myself to know I voted for a nominee who has no core, no message, no scruples and no honor...a man who has not one quality that I believe to be good for our country or admirable as a man.
When I exercise the sacred right to vote, I stand before God, my country and my family. I will not disgrace them or myself by compromising the Conservative principles which guide my life.
I like what you said about our ancestors and forefathers.
Thanks for giving me hope that there are some stalwart warriors left here on Free Republic.
Take a look around, 57% of the country are hopeless idiots glued to their Iphone collecting gubmint freebees.
We're all that's left and giving a political opus in the jungle to the "Whiner Rouge" just get's us a bullet in the head doesn't leave us to fight another day.
Because he is more malleable than Obama IMHO
I am not for Romney.
I just think we have a better shot at controlling him than Obama.
Really? I thought after how smashing the tea party victories were in 2010, we’d have the nominee THIS TIME.
And I will bet my freaking house if I am protesting Romney in four years, others here will be arguing with me to stop protesting him.
Mark Levin is now talking with a worried sounding voice about how Romney will have to move farther right and act and talk more conservatively..ie he will need to come around to our way of thinking.
When has your attempt to change another person ever been successful?
Sitting around and wondering whether or not Romney is going to “come over’ to our side just might be an exercise in futility, Great One. And it’s not the way I want to live my life.
We were here first and our principles aren’t for sale or trade.
Romney’s writers borrowed from Reagan’s old speeches to hone that speech last night. Do you think he really believes what he said? Or is he just attempting to pander to us Conservatives until we fall into line? Kinda like Bam telling the students that he and his minions will find a way to forgive their loans.
It’s all a lie.
And when are the fawning Freepers who think that Mitt Romney will save our Republic by ridding our country of the evil Obama going to come back down to earth?
The GOP-E is doing a bang up job of trying to convince us that as of Nov. 6, a new Messiah will replace the old one and fix all that ails our country.
You have it right, sand88.
This fight for the soul of America is ours to win or lose.
We the People are in charge of our destiny.
We can give up now and take our spoon fed medicine and do as we are told...
or we can unanimously say NO ROMNEY/NO WAY!!!
And many thanks to the RNC who dissed us after the 2010 victories..and are now trying to silence us and send us to the back of(or under) the bus where they think we belong.
They’ll not receive one plug nickel from this Conservative again.
Yes, and a mere 3% of American patriots actually stood and fired in anger at the British in the American Revolution.
I think 43% are even better odds, don't you?
There will be no way in Hell that I or anyone in my family is going to sit home or worst yet, vote the 3rd party ruse and play a part in destruction and ruin of this great nation by handing over the White House to that marxist anti-American devil obambam. NEVER EVER EVER. I will vote REPUBLICAN and REPUBLICAN ONLY to get the devil out of the White House.
Thank God people like you are a minuscule inconsequential number and the vast majority of us understand enough to play our part to SAVE OUR COUNTRY from being devoured by devils.
Hear, hear. Comes a point where there's no room left to back up. Now is that point for me.
If we’re smart about it and keep our powder dry.
Support Mitt Romney so that he can help put government mandated software on all new computers to control porn and other content that you see on the internet.
Here is the proof in his own words.
How are we going to control him when he's the team captain?
If you want a mutiny (and you surely had better want one), you stand a far greater chance of one getting started under a captain that the whole crew hates with a passion, than you do with one who half the crew is lamely trusting to do the right thing.
Republicans will probably become the majority in both the House and Senate this year. They will lock arms against an avowed enemy (Obama), but they will play nice with someone who they view as the leader of their own party.
Obama and Romney have near-identical records in office. There's hardly a dime's worth of difference between them. If Romney is elected, we stand a far greater chance that Obama's Socialist agenda will go forward, than if The Great Evil himself is in office still pushing it against the opposition party in Congress.
This is the fundamental dynamic at work here. It's not pretty to look at, but if you have any intention of winning in the long term, you have to face that, and strategize accordingly.
I’m betting that he is shit skeered of mutiny.
Obama desires it.
If you're too scared to fight back, so be it, but don't come here preaching to good conservative patriots with a spine still left in their bodies, that they must follow Obama's comrade in arms.
I won't follow evil under any banner.
We've gotta fight back, friend. We're being sold a pig in a poke. We're being betrayed right in front of our eyes, and the establishment has the utter gall to ask us to choose which color chains we want around our necks.
"Red chains or Blue?
Which suits you?"
They can kiss my red white and blue ass! I'll never vote for treason and enslavement of any color!