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Is Legalizing Weed Obama's Secret Weapon?
The Atlantic Wire ^ | June 13, 2012 | Elspeth Reeve

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:10:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In 2004 George W. Bush's re-election campaign worked to put anti-gay marriage ballot initiatives up for vote in several swing states in order to turn out more hard-core conservatives to the polls. This year the question is whether marijuana legalization measures will turn out young voters for Obama.

Bush's plan to use gay marriage bans -- in states that did not actually allow gay marriage -- as a turnout booster led to signs featuring icky public restroom symbols proliferated and liberal panic that the Christian right had taken over. The press obsessed over "values voters." One of Bush's aides, Ken Mehlman, who later came out as gay himself, has apologized for the strategy, two others say it didn't work.

This year there's another incumbent president with modest approval ratings who could turn out his base with controversial ballot measures. But this time, the issue features no biblical or scatological imagery. In 2012, voters in swing states will decide whether they'll allow their fellow citizens to bear joints. Unlike the gay marriage votes, there's no indication that Obama's re-election team is behind any of the pot legalization initiatives, but there are Democrats who are hoping that it will boost turnout among weed's biggest fans: young people.

Getting more young people to vote has long been a Democratic fantasy, since they tend to vote so heavily Democratic. But past attempts to bong the vote have been disappointing, in part because stoners aren't the group anyone would most count on to bother filling out a ballot. Ahead of the 2010 midterms, The Wall Street Journal ran the story, "Democrats Look to Cultivate Pot Vote in 2012," noting that California's pot-legalizing Proposition 19 was being studied...

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; State and Local
KEYWORDS: california; gaymarriage; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; nancypelosi; obama; potheads
It ought to help him get a lot of the Paulestinians.
1 posted on 06/13/2012 6:10:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think he can do that by executive order.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 6:13:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of conservatives oppose the War on (Some) Drugs. So it might backfire.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 6:17:13 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cartman and Hippies Pictures, Images and Photos

The fly in the ointment getting those dirty hippies motivated enough to stagger to the polls before they close on election day.

4 posted on 06/13/2012 6:18:37 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I don’t think he can do that by executive order.

Well, he could direct his DOJ to not prosecute the law, or to not defend it in court (like he did with DoMA)

But he couldn't affect an individual state's laws.
5 posted on 06/13/2012 6:19:15 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the stoner vote?! i wouldn’t bet on it. loyalty is lost on them.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 6:22:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Obammy probably has a considerable arsenal packed away for use at the right time.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 6:23:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s only real chance at all is if he repeals a bunch of MAJOR anti-gun laws along with passing or using EO’s to bring gun owners over to his side.

It’s a very slim chance but it’s the only one he has to have a chance of re-election. Unless that idiot Romney steps on his own crank like a lot of Republicans seem to like to do.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 6:23:14 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If so all it does is pathetic how childish and desperate he is.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 6:25:55 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’ll make more Dems.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 6:26:03 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: andyk
I'm so tired of "medical marijuana". I've NEVER met a dying cancer patient that has come into my clinic.

All I've seen are 20 somethings that just happen, HAPPEN to "need" MJ to take care of their back pain. Even though they've never held a job more strenuous than lifting tortillas at Taco Bell.

Stop the charade. Legalize and tax it, or STFU.

11 posted on 06/13/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Come on, even a stoner knows that liberty and justice for all is much more important than whether or not they can “legally” smoke pot.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 6:27:12 PM PDT by TBall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It should be legal. I’ve never smoked it in my entire life but I see no reason why we should continue to spend billions and lock up huge amounts of people in the furtherance of a failed war on drugs.

Prohibition failed on booze and it has failed here too for many of the same reasons. People should be left to make their own decisions and if they choose to do stupid things the nanny state shouldn’t be there to stop them.

Honestly I think booze causes more human misery and it certainly makes people more dangerous and aggressive.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 6:27:46 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: TBall
Come on, even a stoner knows that liberty and justice for all is much more important than whether or not they can “legally” smoke pot.

what's for dinner is much more important than whether getting stoned is legal or not. I don't know about the noble thoughts, though.

14 posted on 06/13/2012 6:39:14 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: TBall
Well, the legality of pot is part of "liberty and justice for all".
15 posted on 06/13/2012 6:43:53 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m quite comfortable that my loyalties are both rational and good.


16 posted on 06/13/2012 6:52:33 PM PDT by TBall
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To: andyk
Well, he could direct his DOJ to not prosecute the law, or to not defend it in court (like he did with DoMA)

Only until the middle of January, or when Eric Holder is indicted.

17 posted on 06/13/2012 6:52:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: TBall

then you’re not a stoner.


18 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: Woodsman27
No question about booze. Prohibition sucked. But if I could go back 20 years, wish I'd never touched it. Booze ruined a lot of things for me. MJ will do the same for a lot of kiddos who think it's cool.

I'm torn on this issue for a lot of reasons. Making stoners mainstream will not lead to happiness for anyone.

19 posted on 06/13/2012 7:00:47 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Only the shadow knows, but my point is that a stoner is not necessarily a liberal zombie. As for being comfortable, I believe in my Lord, and The Constitution.
20 posted on 06/13/2012 7:09:28 PM PDT by TBall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let it be legalized, duh! Tobacco is legal and some cannot work if addicted to tobacco. Some will not hire smokers. If they hire dopers, then tobacco smokers can be hired. Just my thinking about smoke junkies.
21 posted on 06/13/2012 7:09:56 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINO's)
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To: boop

Why not leave it to the states to regulate intrastate mj as each one sees fit?


22 posted on 06/13/2012 7:16:57 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
loyalty is lost on them

How to find the polling station is lost on them. "Oh man, was yesterday Tuesday? Awww, s***!"

23 posted on 06/13/2012 7:17:13 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HIs Harvard student f@gs cannot pimp compete in crack cocaine revenues the way the street thugs can, thus Zero and his ilk want the rights to it.


24 posted on 06/13/2012 7:52:59 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HIs Harvard student f@gs cannot pimp compete in crack cocaine revenues the way the street thugs can, thus Zero and his ilk want the rights to it.

...

And it started with handing contraceptive and abortions in the alleys, now liberals want the rights to dope your children to make them easy to control and rape.


25 posted on 06/13/2012 7:54:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: boop
Making stoners mainstream will not lead to happiness for anyone.

How could they possibly become more mainstream? Anyone in the US who wants weed can get it in at most a couple of hours. That's something I realized back in the early '80s as a freshman in high school, when I learned that a kid I'd known since elementary school was dealing during PE class (his step-dad was supplying). Our last three presidents have either acknowledged smoking weed or have been reported by multiple sources to have done so.

At this point, all marijuana laws are really accomplishing is price support. Legalize it, tax it, sell it in liquor stores requiring ID - at least that way kids won't be able to get it.
26 posted on 06/13/2012 8:00:04 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Ken H

I have friends who are life-long conservatives and business owners who smoke dope.

It was, after all, initially banned because the cotton growers did not want to compete with the superior hemp product and marijuana is a byproduct of hemp.

And then it is difficult to tax so the government does not want it to be legal. But tax it like cigarettes and alcohol and save a lot of money waging the war on drugs.

of course, it is a state’s right, as almost all rights are supposed to be.


27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:06 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: I Shall Endure

The WOD is about giving more power to the government to take people’s property and imprison them. Nothing more.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 8:10:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think that Obama would do that for a simple reason.

The union vote. With marijuana no longer federally prosecuted, the jobs of tens of thousands of police, prison guard, and other unionized personnel would become surplus.

Like it or not, keeping marijuana illegal is a huge business.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: I Shall Endure

I am in Colorado, I plan on favoring the amendment on weed. More as an exercise in telling outsiders to mind their own affairs and leave us Colorado folks alone.


30 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:05 PM PDT by CORedneck
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Hemp Farming Still Illegal, Obama Provides Convenient Scapegoat by Chris Roberts Tue., Jun. 12 2012 at 7:21 AM -- If and when Tea Party hero Sen. Rand Paul visits San Francisco and goes shopping, he'll find friendly faces in the aisles of Rainbow Grocery more quickly than he will any Safeway (especially the Castro location). In addition to the destruction of all government, the Kentucky Republican has legislated in favor of crunchy lifestyle staples raw milk and Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps, the latter made from hemp, the only commodity legal in the United States to import, sell, and possess, but not grow... Drug laws are why David Bronner, current CEO of Dr. Bronner's, was hauled off to jail for marijuana possession after setting up hemp plants in front of the White House on Monday. Bronner, whose company is part of an estimated $400 million domestic hemp market, says Wyden and Paul are "commendable," but the real blame lies with "regressive drug warriors entrenched" in the Obama Administration, which shot down nascent hemp hopes with the pro-enforcement statement. The Choomer In Chief himself is to blame yet again. > Hemp Farming Still Illegal, Obama Provides Convenient Scapegoat

31 posted on 06/13/2012 8:39:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah I really don’t see why Romney doesn’t just beat him to the punch.

Confession: I’ve never smoked weed, mostly because I think it smells like a$$, but also because everyone I knew who smoked weed was super boring and it didn’t look fun.

Still, I’ve never seen anyone smoke weed and do anything destructive except drive a car. And I’ve seen drunk people do ridiculous, violent things.

So put me down for “Meh. Legalize it.”


32 posted on 06/13/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only if it can be paid for by their EBT cards.


33 posted on 06/13/2012 9:04:50 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Woodsman27

Bingo. Pot is no worse then drinking. Especially when it is made in Chocolate!!! Best way. No poluting your lungs and still get the relaxing feeling. Did I just spill my secret? Oh nooooo’s!


34 posted on 06/14/2012 12:51:12 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: Woodsman27

Hear, hear.

The cure for the WOD became worse than the disease.


35 posted on 06/14/2012 2:28:55 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
36 posted on 06/14/2012 4:22:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson
Sorry to bug you, Jim, but does FR have an official for or against marijuana policy? (I'm against; but think the current enforcement mechanisms are all screwed up.)

Cheers!

37 posted on 06/14/2012 4:28:51 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not just the Paulobots. He`d solidify the youth vote ( under 25 ) and secure the left wing.

The dominant left-wing media would of course glowingly report the issue with their messiah going on a campus tour like some rock star.

Could be the jolt of enthusiasm that propels the messiah past the post in November.

It`s that or launch a war to freeze the electorate into re-electing him.


38 posted on 06/14/2012 9:40:33 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Woodsman27

Stop making sense. you must be a HIPPIE!


39 posted on 06/14/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Woodsman27

Pot causes Bi-polar disease. There are Hardvard studies among others indicating both linkage and a causative effect of brain damage in certain relevant brain areas of long term pot users.

So I would disagree with Alcohol being more dangerous.

There are some drugs that are so addicting that one use leaves the person addicted. Are you going to allow those on the market too? Allow everything so that date rapists have full and easy legal access?

Are you going to allow Crack Cocaine, Meth, Ectasy, LSD too?

If not, then we will still have a war on drugs, it will just be defined by a different set of drugs.


40 posted on 06/14/2012 11:11:29 AM PDT by DannyTN
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