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To win, Obama needs to get white voters to stay home
Hot Air ^ | August 3, 2012 | Howard Portnoy

Posted on 08/04/2012 12:36:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama has met the enemy, and they are us (us, that is, if you are Caucasian). So reads the handwriting on the wall, according to BuzzFeed, which reports:

President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign has spent more than $100 million on advertising over the last 3 months. Much, if not most, of it has been produced to shred Mitt Romney’s reputation and suppress turnout among white voters who might vote for Romney.

That last sentence is worth re-reading. It links to a New York Times op-ed that notes with equal candor, not to mention nonchalance:

He is running a two-track campaign. One track of his re-election drive seeks to boost turnout among core liberal groups; the other aims to suppress turnout and minimize his margin of defeat in the most hostile segment of the electorate, whites without college degrees.

It’s a simple matter of arithmetic, the BuzzFeed article goes on to note. In 2008, black voter turnout reached its highest level ever. Hispanic and “youth” voters (ages 18 to 29) also turned out in record numbers. Obama captured 43% of the white vote, cinching a victory.

But with black unemployment reaching 14.4% in July and unemployment among millennials at 12.7%, enthusiasm is down. The dreaded “white vote” is now expected to account for 75% of ballots cast.

By most analysts’ lights, Obama needs to capture 40% of that voting bloc to win a second term. But a Quinnipiac poll released on July 12 shows him attracting just 29% of non-college-educated white males. Taken together with other recent polls, Obama’s share of the white vote as a whole is well shy of the 40% threshold.

The BuzzFeed piece predicts a “chemical warfare campaign, the war to end all wars” but doesn’t offer specifics on what that might translate to.

In the meantime, one might wonder how Obama supporters countenance speaking in such matter-of-fact terms about voter suppression, which Democrats consider the ultimate sin. The answer is provided in the Times op-ed by Thomas Edsall, who asserts that Obama is merely taking a page out of the Republican handbook. “Over the past two years,” he writes, “Republican-controlled state legislatures have been conducting an aggressive vote-suppression strategy of their own through the passage of voter identification laws and laws imposing harsh restrictions on voter registration drives.”

It is a fascinating admission. He imputes the basest possible motive to supporters of voter IDs laws, and one that is unprovable, to justify behavior that can’t rationalized as anything other cynical and anti-American. Just imagine the reaction if the tables were turned.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: obama; polls; romney; whites
I think the other day's Chick-fil-A appreciation event put paid to that idea, don't you?
1 posted on 08/04/2012 12:36:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This year, don't waste your vote casting it for free! DEMAND MORE FREE STUFF! It's the new "fundamentally transformed" Amerikan way!

s/

2 posted on 08/04/2012 12:42:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL!

I think he is going to be rudely surprised. Free stuff or not, a huge portion of America is just plain sick of the man and want him gone.

And yes, that includes a lot of people on entitlements. They’re not going to stay home, they’re going to vote because it’s the only way they can punch him in the nose — metaphorically speaking, of course.

American pride counts for alot among working class men and women. They may not be rich, but they are American and that means something. Barry’s bowing, apologizing, condescending anti-Americanism ticks them off because when he deminishes America, he deminishes THEM.

They will trudge through snow for the chance to vote against him. Come what may, they will at least have fought back that much.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 12:55:36 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The only white voters that will be staying home will be the freepers who love conservatism more than America, all the rest of the Conservative freepers who love America first will crawl on their knees to vote for Romney.Thank GOD most freepers are grownups enough to tell the difference between Obama and Romney and will be voting for Romney
4 posted on 08/04/2012 12:56:12 AM PDT by factmart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s days as President are coming to a close.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 2:32:26 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Demographically...Obama is toast.

His two biggest voting blocs, Blacks and Hispanics, normally vote in low percentages. White Guilt Liberals, his strongest group in regards to voting percentage...are not happy with him.

Seems the group most motivated this election are the ABO’s...Anyone But Obama.


6 posted on 08/04/2012 2:45:49 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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To: factmart
My, how sanctimonious of you!

Well, I hope you will be happy under Romney where gay marriage, gun control and every other item on the liberal socialist agenda will be implemented. Romney IS no different from Obama. He will rule differently, but the result will be the same: the destruction of America.

Vote for whoever you wish, but don't try to intimidate or guilt the rest of us to voting the same as you. And don't tell me I don't love this country. It's because I love this country that I refuse to vote for any liberal who seeks to bring it to ruin. Doesn't matter to me if the candidate has an R after his name.

7 posted on 08/04/2012 4:09:05 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He also needs to disenfranchise the military serving overseas, which is exactly what they are now doing in the primaries and will most likely do in the general. I remember the same scandal in the Clinton election.


8 posted on 08/04/2012 4:39:37 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: FrdmLvr

Gore got a bunch of military ballots thrown out in Florida, also.


9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:46:20 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: fatnotlazy

fatnotlazy, I am curious what age group you are in.


10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:47:01 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (65 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I hope so, this hell has to end.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 5:06:37 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rest assured that Bozo is saving something for a November surprise.


12 posted on 08/04/2012 5:11:50 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Old_Grouch

I’ll be 60 later this year.

Does that make me another old grouch? LOL


13 posted on 08/04/2012 5:21:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
I’ll be 60 later this year.

Does that make me another old grouch?

No, it makes you one of a special group of people that remember what is was like to grow up in a free America, and wholly necessary to securing those freedoms for our posterity.

Congratulations on almost reaching 60. Some don't get the privilege. I'm not far behind you.

14 posted on 08/04/2012 5:31:32 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: fatnotlazy

No, I’m 70, so I’m the old grouch here, and I wish you would hurry and grow up! If we get the Senate and the House... Romney won’t be able to do the things you are saying. The conservatives will be doing the legislation... He will literally HAVE to sign... He can’t dis his own party and won’t. But if Obama is in, because you stayed home for some adolescent principle, he will veto anything sent to him. Romney isn’t my choice, I damned sure didn’t vote for him in my SC primary, and I’m not voting “for” him in the national election. My vote for Romney is my vote against Obama!


15 posted on 08/04/2012 5:38:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The hotter the TEA, the stronger. (.....and I'm boiling!))
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I am grown up. Unlike you, I vote according to my principles. I don’t vote for a guy just because he isn’t Obama.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 5:59:53 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

You should change your tag from ‘fatnotlazy’ to ‘stupidnotlazy’. Just a suggestion.


17 posted on 08/04/2012 6:16:59 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So they need to convince people if Romney was not their GOP choice they should stay home. Not that 4 more years of Obama is going to be better than Romney. convince them to throw up their hand and sit out. I am sure there will some people ready to stay home , but they are already beyond reach.

Can we convince African American to stay home, please?

18 posted on 08/04/2012 6:19:42 AM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I’m 77, so move over:-)) I respect those who won’t vote for Romney - but I don’t understand them. Getting rid of ovomit, defanging reid, pelosi, shumer, durbin, all the appointed czars, and saving the next SCOTUS appointments are the most important things in our history.

I long ago gave up being a Republican - now call me a conservative - and please help me conserve what we have left of our Republic!

If you think we couldn’t control a Romney in office, how do you tink we could control obummer in a 2nd term?

Patriots, Arise!! Now is the time for all good men, etc....


19 posted on 08/04/2012 6:44:47 AM PDT by rickyc
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To: layman

Nice.

You wouldn’t happen to be a closet liberal, would you?


20 posted on 08/04/2012 7:07:45 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
"I am grown up. Unlike you, I vote according to my principles. I don’t vote for a guy just because he isn’t Obama."


It's people LIKE you that didn't vote for McCain and because of that attitude of "high principles" we are about to lose the whole darned country! There's a time to swallow principles, hold your nose and vote ... not voting is voting for evil, and we have proof of the evil after 4 years! I cannot believe as a "conservative" you would facilitate Obama's re-emaculation. You can play the Christian/Lions thing if you wish, but you won't drag me into your martyred, bloody arena without a fight. If you would vote for Obama, I'd respect your vote. But "not" voting for Romney? Put your country ahead of your principles. Someone who puts the value of his "principles" above the value of his country ... is ... is ... is ... (best I end it here!)
21 posted on 08/04/2012 8:39:02 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The hotter the TEA, the stronger......and I'm boiling!)
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To: factmart
The only white voters that will be staying home will be the freepers who love conservatism more than America

Name one FReeper who will be staying home. Can't? Thought so.

22 posted on 08/04/2012 8:45:42 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: factmart

EXACTLY!!!!!!!


23 posted on 08/04/2012 8:47:38 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
“It's people LIKE you that didn't vote for McCain and because of that attitude of “high principles” we are about to lose the whole darned country! “

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For the record, I did vote for McCain in 2008. Back in those days, I was a good little Republican — voted for that guy with the R after his name. No more.

Principles do matter. And if Obama gets four more years, don't out the blame on me. Blame your party for forcing on you a liberal candidate.

If Romney does win, and we get federal law allowing gay marriage, confiscation of your guns and no repeal of government run health care, I will take some small consolation in the fact I didn't vote for the flim-flam man.

24 posted on 08/04/2012 9:43:59 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Cheat!!! -— This is going to happen. The Democrats grow more evil everyday. Their lies get worse and the crimes get bigger.


25 posted on 08/04/2012 9:51:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To win, Obama needs to get white voters to stay home.

Hmmm...looking for historically similar thinking to put this into perspective.

To win, Hitler relied on non-existent divisions.

That should cover it.

26 posted on 08/04/2012 9:53:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are there enough new black panther party members to intimidate voters in all those mostly white precincts?


27 posted on 08/04/2012 12:32:30 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: fatnotlazy

Thank GOD most freepers are grownups enough to tell the difference between Obama and Romney and will be voting for Romney


28 posted on 08/04/2012 12:45:05 PM PDT by factmart
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Great Post

I would have loved Sarah Palin,

But Romney is 10,000 times better than Obama, I hate Romneycare but Obamacare is 1000 times worse and stupid freepers can't tell the difference.

Obama hates America, Romney loves America.

Rush, Levin ,Hannity, Palin, etc all want Romney.

Reagan, once he became a Republican, supported every GOP Presidential Candidate,Nixon(Who supported prices freezes) Does any freepers think Reagan would not vote for Romney over Obama?

29 posted on 08/04/2012 12:57:47 PM PDT by factmart
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To: TalBlack
Rest assured that Bozo is saving something for a November surprise.

Do you really think that would make a difference? To me it looks like there are the entitled/dependent for Obama and then there's everybody else.

I just don't think there's hardly any undecided/swing vote.

30 posted on 08/04/2012 1:03:18 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: fatnotlazy
I am grown up. Unlike you, I vote according to my principles. I don’t vote for a guy just because he isn’t Obama.

Your statement proves you have no principles.

31 posted on 08/04/2012 1:09:32 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Crawdad

“Your statement proves you have no principles.”

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Enlighten me.


32 posted on 08/04/2012 1:23:39 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To win, Obama needs to get principalled Conservative voters to vote third party and starve Romney of votes. </sarc>


33 posted on 08/04/2012 3:50:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: fatnotlazy

And if we had elected McCain, we would not have Obamacare today. There is no way even an idiot like McCain would have let Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid ram through socialized medicine midnight on a Saturday night.

Why didn’t McCain win? Because principalled conservatives stayed home rather than vote for RINO. Now you want that two elections in a row, handing our radical communist Muslim president a 2nd term, a lame duck term where he can do anything he wants, as he told the Russian president.

So you an thank your fellow conservatives who did four years ago what you are going to do this year, for Obamacare and for $5 trillion extra national debt.

Some people never learn.


34 posted on 08/04/2012 3:56:16 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Name one FReeper who will be staying home. Can't? Thought so.

From reading their posts, I'd say that there are several of them just on this thread.

35 posted on 08/04/2012 4:18:59 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
From reading their posts, I'd say that there are several of them just on this thread.

I know it's hard for a MittBot to understand, but just because someone won't vote for their boy Romney and won't vote for Obama doesn't equate to not voting.

36 posted on 08/04/2012 4:42:28 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java
I know it's hard for a MittBot to understand, but just because someone won't vote for their boy Romney and won't vote for Obama doesn't equate to not voting.

You can take your snarky MittBot reference to me and ...

If you're not voting for Romney, you might as well not be voting at all. Whoever you vote for besides Romney, that's one less vote that's needed to get rid of Obama. While I know the MittHaters here don't think that's important, I do. (And, yes, I know -- Romney = Obama, yada, yada, yada. Don't waste your breath.)

37 posted on 08/04/2012 5:22:30 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Do whatever you want, Bob. If you wish to sacrifice all of your principles keep voting for the GOP-e’s hand-picked choices. I just hope you don’t have any children, because you’ll be voting to commit them and their grand children into grinding debt slavery.

But maybe you don’t have any kids, so it doesn’t make a difference to you. All I know is, come what may, I’ll be able to vote with a clear conscience in November.


38 posted on 08/04/2012 6:27:42 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java
Do whatever you want, Bob. If you wish to sacrifice all of your principles keep voting for the GOP-e’s hand-picked choices. I just hope you don’t have any children, because you’ll be voting to commit them and their grand children into grinding debt slavery.

And allowing another four years of Obama won't??

39 posted on 08/04/2012 7:30:32 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
And allowing another four years of Obama won't??

Nope. Not if we contain him - and with a Republican House and Senate, we can. But I'm not going to rehash the argument with you. The strategy's been repeated, ad nauseam, over and over and over and over and over again on this forum. Look it up.

40 posted on 08/04/2012 7:34:59 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“And if we had elected McCain, we would not have Obamacare today.”

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I wouldn’t bet on it. McCain is the great comprimiser, Mr. Bipartisanship. He might be more conservative on foreign policy matters, but on domestic issues, he’s a flaming liberal.

The reason McCain failed was that he was an awful candidate. He had all the charisma of a lawn chair. And he appeared to be a white version of Obama. People voted for Obama because they were intrigued by the thought of the first African-American president. Obama was and is an excellent mouthpiece, very adept at persuading the masses. Of course, that’s because they are so charmed by him, they don’t bother looking at his past and background (what little background there is) to find out what he’s really all about.

The Republican party had the opportunity to correct the mistake of nominating a putz for President in 2008 by allowing the people to select a real conservative to represent them. Instead they annointed yet another liberal. The party had already decided Romney would be its nominee even before the primaries began. So now, even though there are those who have seen the light on Obama, he may still win a second term because the alternative has no appeal.

If Obama wins again, you can blame the party for forcing another liberal candidate on us. And you can blame yourself for voting for the same liberal candidate. Nothing will ever change if you continue to vote party over principles or because the candidate isn’t Obama.


41 posted on 08/04/2012 10:49:58 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

No. It is a fact that McCain would not have signed socialized medicine.

The Senate passed Obamacare 60 to 39.

NOT ONE SINGLE SENATE RINO VOTED FOR IT.

Not Olympia Snow.

Not Susan Collins.

Not even Arlen Specter

Not George Voinovich

Not Lisa Murkowski

Not Mel Martinez

NOT JOHN MCCAIN

SENATOR MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST OBAMACARE.

That is the fact. Not a single RINO voted for it. So stuff it.

I hate it some people just want to argue and can’t accept the facts when they are presented to them. Make a valid point, don’t create it from whole cloth.

It is a FACT that Pelosi and Reed NEVER could have passed Socialized medicine if McCain was President. Thank you all you conservatives who stayed home or voted 3rd party.

And now you all are going to do it again and hand the election to Obama.

Thankfully Obama is toast anyway because the economy has already beaten him. Romney is a lock for president. It is a done deal.


42 posted on 08/05/2012 3:38:33 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The BuzzFeed piece predicts a “chemical warfare campaign, the war to end all wars” but doesn’t offer specifics on what that might translate to.

It means he is going to spray uric acid all over the white male population and hope that motivates everyone else to pile on at the polls. :)

43 posted on 08/05/2012 3:46:33 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: fatnotlazy
“And if we had elected McCain, we would not have Obamacare today.”

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I wouldn’t bet on it. McCain is the great comprimiser [sic], Mr. Bipartisanship. He might be more conservative on foreign policy matters, but on domestic issues, he’s a flaming liberal.


You need to change your name to fatANDlazy, because, if you had bothered to look, you would know that no Republican voted for Obamacare in either house of Congress. It was an entirely partisan piece of legislation.
44 posted on 08/05/2012 4:06:36 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Whatever.

Now, perhaps you should talk to a professional about your anger issues.


45 posted on 08/05/2012 8:22:46 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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