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Sarah Palin: Senate kingmaker
The Star-Ledger / The Politico ^ | August 4, 2012

Posted on 08/04/2012 2:35:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People think the Southern Strategy was a decisive factor in turning the South Republican, but if you start digging into the numbers, you will find that growth in income and wealth was the decisive factor in the Southern shift from Democratic to Republican.

People think that negative adds depress turnout, despite all evidence to the contrary.

And until last week, a lot of people believed that high turnout in the TX run-off meant David Dewhurst would win.

What people believe doesn't concern me as much as what the evidence shows really happened. And there's no evidence that an endorsement (from anyone) was a decisive factor in the TX primary.

51 posted on 08/04/2012 6:32:49 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
Endorsing winners does not translate into being a kingmaker; it may mean you just backed the right horse...

Perhaps you haven't really been paying attention since Palin began endorsing (and working her butt off for) conservative Tea Party candidates. Her win/loss ratio falls far outside the realm of mere chance.

She's the E.F. Hutton of Republican politics.

52 posted on 08/04/2012 6:33:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Then, as I've said, there ought to be some numbers to back it up outside of win/loss ratio.

I'm not seeing it in the TX primary (the polls in the race showed Cruz doing quite well before her endorsement & later campaign appearances), and Orrin Hatch was an incumbent and incumbents' odds of being re-elected are over 90%.

However, I am not familiar with other races like Fischer, so I'd be interested to see what's there.

Prove me wrong, but right now, I don't see any endorser as being a kingmaker, even if that person is Sarah Palin (a great person to have with you on the trail - absolutely - but kingmaker I don't see).

53 posted on 08/04/2012 6:53:58 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Windflier

-——Primarily, this is because she’s more qualified to be CiC than any two of the most likely candidates, put together.——

Talk about sense of proportion.....I love Sarah Palin but I’m not prepared to say she ready and qualified to POTUS.....I don’t think anyone is really prepared. she is for sure more qualified than the POS fouling our oval office at the moment....

You actually think it above her to run the DOE or EPA ?

Her resume’ is actually pretty thin to compared to Romney... Not that I am a great Romney fan... But he is probably more qualified to run the executive branch
Than Palin...


54 posted on 08/04/2012 9:07:29 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: smoothsailing

Wow, I see Sarah is serving sandwiches. Thanks for posting the pictures.


55 posted on 08/04/2012 9:55:15 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Popman
You actually think it above her to run the DOE or EPA ?

Above? No, I think it's beneath her skill and level of qualifications to do so. Obviously, she'd do a fantastic job in any cabinet level or alphabet agency position, but it would be a complete waste of her potential at this point her life.

Her resume’ is actually pretty thin to compared to Romney.

What? You can only believe that if you're completely unfamiliar with her record of public service, which is twenty plus years on the job in the state of Alaska. Not to mention the last three years of her life, spent doggedly working to forward the conservative agenda and get Tea Party candidates elected to office.

And what of Romney's resume? He spent his time as Governor of Massachusetts governing in the very finest left-liberal tradition. 'Assault' weapons ban, creation of RomneyCare, mandated gay 'marriage', supported state-sponsored abortions, raised taxes, appointed a host of leftists to the bench, etc.

Look up Sarah Palin's record as Governor of Alaska. In the short time she was in office, she got more done for the people of her state than most Governors do in two terms. She also had the highest approval rating of any US Governor at the time.

Don't misunderestimate the woman. She's got more on the ball than any politician since Ronaldus Magnus.

56 posted on 08/04/2012 11:42:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Thanks for continuing to both show your Sarah “expertise?” and prove my contention. On the other hand, if indeed you have an actual insight connect, it would be great for all the Palin interested FReepers to know, otherwise 4th Grade off subject rants do your credibilty nor FR discussions any favor.

May I suggest reframing your “Palin insider” claims as your opinion, which will indeed reclaim some level of credibility within discussions.


57 posted on 08/05/2012 5:50:40 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Windflier
Her resume’ is actually pretty thin to compared to Romney.

What? You can only believe that if you're completely unfamiliar with her record of public service, which is twenty plus years on the job in the state of Alaska. Not to mention the last three years of her life, spent doggedly working to forward the conservative agenda and get Tea Party candidates elected to office.

Please give me a little credit...I'm not a libtard living under a rock...I'm entirely familiar with Gov. Plain record.

Again...for those of us who have not fallen into the Palin cult of personalty meme...

Sarah Palin is a patriotic, proven leader, fighter for conservative principles...but let's be realistic...she didn't run in any primaries or caucuses, didn't make the decision to run, didn't prove she is a capable of winning the gold ring and bring conservatism back to the White House...do I hold that against her...no way...honestly I can't blame her for not stepping into that hellhole of smears, lies, slander, and possible danger toher very life..

But comparing her resume' to Romney, not comparing their political ideology but actual life and work experiences...Romney has far more rounded and complete resume'...

Would I vote for Palin over Romney ?...every single day of the week....but she decided not to run... and by default it's Romney...

58 posted on 08/05/2012 6:43:29 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Popman
But comparing her resume' to Romney, not comparing their political ideology but actual life and work experiences...Romney has far more rounded and complete resume'...

I'll never vote for a professional liberal, no matter how good his resume is. Why would any Conservative vote for someone who's skilled at being a liberal? He might be even more competent in pushing liberal causes than the bumbling fraud that occupies the oval office now. Thank about that.

59 posted on 08/05/2012 6:48:07 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Sirius Lee
I'll never vote for a professional liberal, no matter how good his resume is. Why would any Conservative vote for someone who's skilled at being a liberal? He might be even more competent in pushing liberal causes than the bumbling fraud that occupies the oval office now.

Well, it's called reality...I would really like my grandchildren to at least have a chance...with four more years of Obama...we are done...At least Romney doesn't hate America, and he was the Republican Gov. of the most liberal state in country, so I'm not surprised he looks more liberal than he actual is..

Also, those of you who think Romney will govern more liberal than the current POS in our WH with no election to hold him back are delusional...

As far as I know nobody has accused Romney of being a stealth Muslin and Marxist..

60 posted on 08/05/2012 6:58:42 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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Also, those of you who think Romney will govern more liberal than the current POS in our WH with no election to hold him back are delusional...

I don't think mitt is more liberal than obie, but he's more competent as a liberal executive. This is a real problem. Right now our guys will barely stand up to obie. What will they do when they have mitt in there? The whole idea that somehow the Stepford voters are going to "hold his feet to the fire" would be laughable exept that, now, instead of having to suffer a wimpy liberal for 4 years, we'll have a backstabbing RINO pushing abortions and gun control for 8 and nobody will stop him because he has a meaningless (R) after his name.

61 posted on 08/05/2012 7:08:04 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Sirius Lee
I can see Sarah running for senate in Alaska...,.and maybe leader of the senate....
62 posted on 08/05/2012 7:43:40 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Sirius Lee
So you have no problem with Obama picking the next three or four SCOTUS Justices...

Yeah...I know... Romney will pick more liberal judges than Obama would.... blah, blah, blah..

63 posted on 08/05/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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Romney will pick more liberal judges than Obama would.

Recognition and acknowledgment of the problem are the first steps to kicking the RINO habit.

64 posted on 08/05/2012 12:56:21 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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Romney has decades of being a businessman and a short time as a liberal governor.

We don’t need a businessman, (what to speak of liberal R), we need a gutsy fighter who fights against corruption even if (ESPECIALLY IF) it wears an “R” pin, and holds the principles of the Constitution. Let business take care of itself.


65 posted on 08/05/2012 2:13:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Popman
...comparing her resume' to Romney, not comparing their political ideology but actual life and work experiences...Romney has far more rounded and complete resume'...

Palin never ran a billion dollar equity capital firm, but she sure has run a family business. If you want to talk about how 'well rounded' her experience is compared to Romney's, I'd say that she beats him there, too.

Not only did she sign the front of paychecks for a long time, she and her husband honestly built an enterprise which exchanged valuable goods and services with their community, from the ground up. Romney? Not so much.

His enterprise bought and sold businesses that others put their hearts and souls in to build. He and his partners never started from scratch to build something that would one day employ others, and actually create wealth. No, they purchased all that sweat equity in the marketplace, then turned around and profited by re-selling that sweat equity to other traders.

I'm not putting Romney down for engaging in that sort of business, but it's a very different animal than the type of business the Palins built. I happen to admire and appreciate the small business model a lot more than the Wall Street trader model. I think that sort of experience prepares one a lot better to be a representative of the people, than the aloof and distant experience of buying and selling businesses.

Would I vote for Palin over Romney ?...every single day of the week.

On this, we agree. I, too, wish that she'd run this time, and think that it's a travesty of immense proportions that we're now stuck with one of the worst candidates in the field. The stars were perfectly aligned for a no-nonsense, patriotic conservative to become the next president. Even someone who was marginally conservative would have wiped the floor with Obama. Instead, we wound up with a candidate whose record in office is a sterling example of left-liberal governance.

I can't help but think that this outcome was purposely engineered by forces that have hijacked and stolen our government and the reins of power from the American people. This is not what we wanted. It's precisely counter to the natural direction and will of the people.

66 posted on 08/05/2012 2:33:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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