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Smart Democrats Should Be Worried
The National Review ^ | August 11, 2012 | John Fund

Posted on 08/11/2012 2:48:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Liberal pundits are already fanning out in force to attack and discredit Paul Ryan. Michael Tomasky, who recently wrote a Newsweek cover story calling Mitt Romney a “wimp,” has now decided that Romney’s bold move is “a terrible choice” because Ryan has proven himself to be an extremist on budget issues.

No doubt there are many Democrats rubbing their hands in glee in contemplation of reviving some version of the ad that featured an actor playing Paul Ryan pushing a grandmother in a wheelchair off a cliff. But the smarter ones are worried.

First, if Ryan is an extremist and his proposals are so unpopular, how has he won election seven times in a Democratic district? His lowest share of the vote was 57 percent — in his first race. He routinely wins over two-thirds of the vote. When Obama swept the nation in 2008, he carried Ryan’s district by four points. But at the same time, Ryan won reelection with 65 percent of the vote, meaning that a fifth of Obama voters also voted for him.

Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984. “I have held hundreds of town-hall meetings in my district explaining why we have to take bold reform steps, and I’ve found treating people like adults works,” he told me. “All those ads pushing elderly woman off the cliffs don’t work anymore if you lay out the problem.”

Second, Democrats know that Ryan has Reaganesque qualities that make him appealing to independent, middle-class voters. Take the cover story on Ryan that the Isthmus, a radically left-wing Madison, Wis. newspaper, ran on him in 2009. “Ryan, with his sunny disposition and choirboy looks, projects compassion and forcefully proclaims dedication to his district,” the story reported. “And he’s proved he is not unyieldingly pro-corporate, as when he recently joined in condemnation of AIG ‘retention’ bonuses.”

Third, Ryan’s ideas aren’t that novel or scary. The idea of “premium support” for Medicare, which would change the program’s one-size-fits-all policy to a private-insurance model with public options, was endorsed by a bipartisan commission appointed by Bill Clinton back in the 1990s. Late last year, Ryan announced a new version of his proposal with a new partner signing on: Democratic senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, who first achieved political prominence as an advocate for seniors.

Four, Ryan puts Wisconsin and its ten electoral votes in play. Polls have shown that President Obama holds a five to seven point lead in Wisconsin — significant, but much less than Obama’s 14-point margin in 2008. With Ryan on the ticket, polls show the race is dead even.

Five, if Republicans were looking for a superior candidate, they’ve found it in Ryan. His maiden speech as the GOP vice-presidential candidate was perfectly pitched:

We won’t duck the tough issues . . . we will lead!

We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!

We won’t replace our founding principles . . . we will reapply them!

Echoes of Ronald Reagan at his best.

Ryan was judged to have already had the better of President Obama in televised exchanges on Obamacare. His debate with Joe Biden this October might well be remembered as cruel and unusual punishment for dim vice presidents. Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.

Six, as Democratic consultant Joe Trippi acknowledged today on Fox News, Ryan will bring in a flood of donations from overjoyed conservatives and tea-party members. Romney had a problem with energizing the GOP base. That problem is now solved, and that will make it easier to pump up conservative turnout.

Democrats will no doubt try to make Paul Ryan into a younger version of the devil they’ve tried to paint Mitt Romney as. But they should worry about fighting a campaign on fundamental issues in a weak economy. That’s precisely how Jimmy Carter, the last Democratic president to run for reelection during hard times, wound up losing so badly that it not only cost Democrats control of the U.S. Senate but damaging the liberal brand for years afterwards.


TOPICS: Wisconsin; Campaign News; Issues; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; 2012veep; barackwho; biden; conservatism; constitution; democrats; johnfund; medicare; obama; palin; paulryan; reagandemocrats; romney; ryan; worrieddems
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I remember Governor Sarah Palin beating then Senator Joe Biden like a rented mule, but that's just me I guess.
1 posted on 08/11/2012 2:48:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there’s an oxymoron in the title.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 2:51:22 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Many of them are just **hold the oxy** anyhow.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 2:53:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this was a good read. I feel their contributions will be really up after today. I plan to donate and I haven’t donated since two donations to Newt. Before that I donated to Sarah in ‘08, not McCain.


4 posted on 08/11/2012 2:55:37 PM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here Here ....”is “a terrible choice” because Ryan has proven himself to be an extremist on budget issues.” (NRO)
...Finally someone who will admit our incredible debt burden.... The first step is admitting you’ve got a problem.....


5 posted on 08/11/2012 2:56:03 PM PDT by djone (“ enslave a country: by the sword. or by debt")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here Here ....”is “a terrible choice” because Ryan has proven himself to be an extremist on budget issues.” (NRO)
...Finally someone who will admit our incredible debt burden.... The first step is admitting you’ve got a problem.....


6 posted on 08/11/2012 2:56:51 PM PDT by djone ( There are unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

where is Sarah’s post today.....I wanted her, but Ryan is OK...but Sarah needs to be treated with respect by Romney or he will loose votes.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 2:57:28 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope you’re right 2cd Sarah made him look foolish


8 posted on 08/11/2012 2:57:37 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (conservatism is a lifestyle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Governor Palin consistently had over 70% public support overall in Alaska, with over 60% from Democrats - until the far left slime machine was let loose. I hope Ryan and Romney are ready for the inevitable lies and the magnitude of the bias and hate from the far left.


9 posted on 08/11/2012 2:59:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw their rally in Wanassa Virginia this afternoon....Romney laid out five points they want to accomplish for the country....all short, sweet, easy to remember and all on point....

Both were very good....


10 posted on 08/11/2012 2:59:55 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smart Democrats -— talk about an oxymoron.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 3:02:02 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: djone

This was the worst possible scenario for the Obama crooks.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 3:02:41 PM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: Qwackertoo
I may do some fundraising as time allows. I've already given more than $100 that I couldn't afford, but then kids went on scrap drives and bought war bonds they couldn't afford in the 1940’s. This really is just as desperate as 1942 was, I don't know why more people can't see it! If he is re-elected, we are finished as a Republic!!
13 posted on 08/11/2012 3:05:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Extremist on budget issues, like having one and keeping one. Very Extremist, every single privately owned company has to do it.

Sheesh, anything but corruption is extremist to the Dims.

14 posted on 08/11/2012 3:05:37 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 08/11/2012 3:11:18 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: The Wizard
where is Sarah’s post today...

I've been monitoring her Facebook and Tweets. So far, silence...

16 posted on 08/11/2012 3:12:04 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember Governor Sarah Palin beating then Senator Joe Biden like a rented mule, but that’s just me I guess.


She crushed him, but the media called it a tie because he was making stuff up to try to make himself look like the all-knowing and the press wouldn’t call him out on his lies.


17 posted on 08/11/2012 3:22:35 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any reason to think that Obama will dump Biden now?


18 posted on 08/11/2012 3:23:21 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The announcement of Ryan as VP has me fired up! I won't have to hold my nose now.
19 posted on 08/11/2012 3:27:21 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

>>>I think there’s an oxymoron in the title>>>

LOL, You’re right.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 3:28:16 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Popman
Saw that speech, too--and was encouraged at how Romney condensed his ideas into these 5 points. That's what he needs to keep doing--KISS--but also not be afraid to take on serious issues.

Ryan's emphasis on "having the courage to tell the truth" should, I sure hope, appeal a lot to independents.

Anyway, for the first time in months, I am --cautiously--optimistic about the furture of our country!

GO RR!

21 posted on 08/11/2012 3:30:32 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: Pollster1
I hope Ryan and Romney are ready for the inevitable lies and the magnitude of the bias and hate from the far left.

Unlike Palin at this point in 2008, Ryan has already faced the left's smear machine. He won't naively go on any MSM show with stars in his eyes thinking they honestly want to know more about him.

22 posted on 08/11/2012 3:36:07 PM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

**Hillary rubbing hands together and smirking**


23 posted on 08/11/2012 3:38:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: EricT.
Unlike Palin at this point in 2008, Ryan has already faced the left's smear machine. He won't naively go on any MSM show with stars in his eyes thinking they honestly want to know more about him.

people who say it's 2008 all over again aren't paying attention. w/r/t obama, here's the understatement of the millenium: "the bloom is off the rose".

24 posted on 08/11/2012 3:43:52 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: Popman

What were those five easy to remember points?

;-)


25 posted on 08/11/2012 3:50:14 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberal pundits are already fanning out in force to attack and discredit Paul Ryan...good - we'll take their best shots for two weeks, then have four days of convention spotlights with speech after speech to answer them and firm up the counter-attack........
26 posted on 08/11/2012 3:52:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: WilliamRobert

My prediction: Sarah will introduce Ryan at the convention as a surprise. She will nail a speech in which she points out that Ryan personifies what she has always stood for. Et voila! 100% of the conservative vote to R and R, now with enthusiasm.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 4:03:39 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only sentence Paul Ryan has to say:

“If I’m an extremist, then I guess every family that balances their budgets are extreme.”


28 posted on 08/11/2012 4:18:51 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember Governor Sarah Palin beating then Senator Joe Biden like a rented mule, but that's just me I guess.

Everywhere except on election night. We can't forget that Ryan is not at the top of the ticket, Romney is. Palin was not able to turn McCain into a winner, it remains to be seen if Ryan can do the same for Romney.

29 posted on 08/11/2012 4:30:54 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

If Roseanne Barr had somehow garnered the Democratic nomination in 2008, she’d be the president right now. There was no way a Republican was going to win that election, especially an old guy who isn’t exactly telegenic.


30 posted on 08/11/2012 4:34:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Not in any order:

energy independence
improving education
increasing trade
lowering the deficit and helping small business
repeal ACA


31 posted on 08/11/2012 4:37:29 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: milagro
Anyway, for the first time in months, I am --cautiously--optimistic about the furture of our country!

I was also optimistic about our future for the first time in a while...watching politicians who seem to love our country and willing to put country above politics and power...Time will tell..

Though Romney is a first class RINO, I know he doesn't hate our country like the current POS in the WH does...

Ryan is a truly a breath of fresh air...

32 posted on 08/11/2012 4:43:44 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: milagro
Anyway, for the first time in months, I am --cautiously--optimistic about the furture of our country!

I was also optimistic about our future for the first time in a while...watching politicians who seem to love our country and willing to put country above politics and power...Time will tell..

Though Romney is a first class RINO, I know he doesn't hate our country like the current POS in the WH does...

Ryan is a truly a breath of fresh air...

33 posted on 08/11/2012 4:43:44 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are going to try to “Palinize” him. Watch, it wont work, so then they will simply demonize him.


34 posted on 08/11/2012 4:46:57 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: djone
"terrible choice"

Standard rhetoric for any Pubbie choice not Noam Chomsky. The last thing Dems want is a campaign decided on discussion of the issues and ideology. The pick of Ryan not only forces the hand of Romney to talk about ideology, it should scare the bejeezus out of the Dem strategists who know what nitwits their president and veep are about discussing the proper role of government.

35 posted on 08/11/2012 4:54:10 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Paradox

It didn’t really work as planned on Gov. Sarah Palin, either. She is almost certainly the most influential, high-profile female political figure in the world.


36 posted on 08/11/2012 4:55:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I visited my mom in her assisted living place today. Two conservative guys who we hang out with on the patio asked about how to get an absentee ballot.

Since I just went through the process with my mother, I knew just what to do. I have their applications printed complete with an addressed and stamped envelope. I’ll have to ask the known conservatives around there if they need any help. It felt good to assist these guys. It’s a little complicated for them to figure out, especially those with no internet connection. If anyone else is in a similar situation with their parent I encourage them to be proactive about helping these seniors get an absentee ballot.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 4:56:52 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Popman

Thank you.


38 posted on 08/11/2012 5:32:26 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT!


39 posted on 08/11/2012 5:51:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: djone

Quite frankly I think at this point we need an extremist on budget issues.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 6:02:31 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Hotlanta Mike

**Hillary rubbing hands together and smirking**

Ah, yes, but for the reason that Billary & Hillary want Osama bin Obama to loose big time in November. And they want no part of her being on the ticket. Her only last chance is in 2016, but only if Obama looses now and she is not a part of the loss. Best, from their point of view, for Biden to stay on the ticket.


41 posted on 08/11/2012 6:10:36 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: mplsconservative
I visited my mom in her assisted living place today. Two conservative guys who we hang out with on the patio asked about how to get an absentee ballot...

Just be certain they actually get the ballots and fill them out for themselves.

In a lot of these places, Obama-voting staff "helps" residents fill out their ballots..

42 posted on 08/11/2012 6:19:48 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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43 posted on 08/11/2012 6:35:08 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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44 posted on 08/11/2012 6:50:41 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to the Obamedia she lost because she winked at her dad. Have they declared Biden the winner against Ryan yet?

Pray for America


45 posted on 08/11/2012 6:51:28 PM PDT by bray (Take out the commies in November!)
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To: Pollster1
...the far left...

...is now "mainstream" (MSM, etc.). George Orwell's nightmarish vision of the future is where we now find ourselves.

46 posted on 08/11/2012 7:23:30 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: workerbee; Tijeras_Slim
Smart Democrats -— talk about an oxymoron.

Unless of course you're in the government, complicit in the larceny, and getting a piece of the action...

47 posted on 08/11/2012 7:28:02 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Paradox

Why do you think they could Bork Palin but won’t be able against Ryan?


48 posted on 08/11/2012 7:31:44 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: CurlyDave

No fear CD. We conservative daughters of different fathers and mothers are very hands on and heads up at this AL. Our varied parents our very much in their right minds and I’m making sure they vote.


49 posted on 08/11/2012 8:19:30 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joe Biden cannot be beaten in a debate. His 1-2 punch of prepared lies and lies he makes up on the spot cannot be countered.


50 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:01 PM PDT by impimp
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