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Sarah Palin Is Wrong on Replacing Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton (She has 'em all lathered up!)
US News and World Report ^ | August 16, 2012 | Susan Milligan, Kennedy biographer

Posted on 08/16/2012 9:54:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What is this fixation with replacing Vice President Joe Biden on the presidential ticket with Hillary Clinton?

Sarah Palin became the latest to make the suggestion, which is a pretty good indicator that it would be a bad idea—or at least, a bad idea for the Democrats. Palin, responding to Biden's remarks in Virginia that GOP contender Mitt Romney's plans for Wall Street would "put y'all back in chains," had the following advice, according to Fox News:

"If that's not the nail in the coffin, really, the strategists there in the Obama campaign have got to look at a diplomatic way of replacing Joe Biden on the ticket with Hillary. And I don't want to throw out that suggestion and have them actually accept the suggestion because then an Obama-Hillary Clinton ticket would have a darn good chance of winning."

True, Biden's comments had an unfortunate, although almost certainly inadvertent, racial underpinning to them, especially since his audience had a good share of African-Americans. But then, Romney's recent ad accusing President Obama of gutting welfare reform—a charge that has been widely discredited by independent fact-checkers—has a racial component as well. And telling Obama to "go back to Chicago," a city with a substantial African-American population, could arguably be cast as derisive towards urban America.

But the Clinton talk—which never comes from the White House, but more commonly, from Republicans or some Clinton die-hards who still can't accept that Clinton wasn't the nominee—is still baffling. Biden is an asset, even when he tends to say things without first editing them inside his head (in fact, there's something rather refreshing about that tendency). The vice president is one of the most substantive people in Washington, especially on foreign affairs and budget issues he dealt with for years on the Hill. His relationships with senators on both sides of the aisle help ease the brutally partisan environment in Washington that has kept the two branches from working together.

And while Clinton has done a stellar job as secretary of state, there's no evidence that she would enhance the ticket from an electoral standpoint. There's not only a disturbing degree of racism out there (the determined view that Obama is "other" is sadly proven by the number of people who still don't think he was born in the United States), but there's a strong backlash against female power as well. You think it's hard getting a woman or an African-American elected to high office? Try putting both of them on the same ticket.

Palin, of course, has a right to her opinion. But if she says a Biden-Clinton sub would have been good for the Democratic ticket, you can be well-assured it's not.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: biden; hillary; obama; palin
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How nice of the author to allow Governor Palin to have an opinion.
1 posted on 08/16/2012 9:55:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author obviously has not been reading our exchanges here on this subject this morning.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 9:58:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin became the latest to make the suggestion, which is a pretty good indicator that it would be a bad idea

Visible PDS, on the part of the author. Stopped reading right there. ;)


3 posted on 08/16/2012 9:58:20 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think she said it to rub salt into the wound of the Hilary follower when he sticks with Biden.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 9:58:42 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: MNDude

Yep.


5 posted on 08/16/2012 10:00:07 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah is a genius.
6 posted on 08/16/2012 10:00:23 AM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah is enjoying the catbird seat these days.
She gets to stir the anthill and watch ‘em scramble and run into each other.
She is also probably inoculating AGAINST hilary VP by the very fact the dims would be loath to be seen “obeying” her.
I love it.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 10:03:28 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the author is wrong...but I hope obama heeds her advice. I think adding Hillary would help obama a LOT. On the other hand, I think Biden really really helps the GOP.

I hope he stays.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 10:03:47 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: eCSMaster

Oh Sarah gets in their heads and haunts their dreams.

Muhahhahahaaha!


9 posted on 08/16/2012 10:04:03 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin...(...all lathered up!)

I’m kinda distracted by that headline.


10 posted on 08/16/2012 10:04:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author SWINGS AND MISSES.

LLS


11 posted on 08/16/2012 10:04:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm, what to do, Dear Leader? Stick with Biden? Gaffes galore until election day? Or take the advice of Sarah Palin? That would indicate she was actually pretty politically savvy, right? Not the dumb bimbo you’ve been trying to portray her as?

I would actually wade Into DU to read the meltdown if that were to happen!


12 posted on 08/16/2012 10:04:55 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She lobbed that hand grenade into Ubama's lap for the sheer fun of it.
13 posted on 08/16/2012 10:05:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is clearly living rent-free in this author’s head!


14 posted on 08/16/2012 10:05:23 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: Migraine

She knew exactly what she was saying and I’m glad she said it.
The Dems would be loathe to take her advice. It was a very shrewd move.


15 posted on 08/16/2012 10:06:46 AM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MestaMachine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e174/KyraAyn/Sarah/OSYDIA.jpg

16 posted on 08/16/2012 10:07:05 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: Migraine
I think you are absolutely correct. In fact I think Mrs Palin gives the Democrats your tagline. In spades.
17 posted on 08/16/2012 10:07:19 AM PDT by Tupelo (Sara Palin.............my write in vote for 2012)
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To: MNDude

I’ve got three lib sisters who’d love it if Obama dumped Biden and replaced him with Hillary. One of my sisters doesn’t much like Obama, but she hates Republicans worse. She was not happy when Obama beat out Hillary for the nomination.


18 posted on 08/16/2012 10:08:48 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Visible PDS, on the part of the author.”

What does PDS stand for?


19 posted on 08/16/2012 10:10:19 AM PDT by RedStateNotShirt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Governor Palin lives rent free in their heads.


20 posted on 08/16/2012 10:10:45 AM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
True, Biden's comments had an unfortunate, although almost certainly inadvertent, racial underpinning to them, especially since his audience had a good share of African-Americans.

There is no doubt that Biden is a senile racist.

I believe Hillary will take the bait.

21 posted on 08/16/2012 10:12:43 AM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought we got rid of her!!!

22 posted on 08/16/2012 10:13:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Libs can't stand to have anyone stir their pot.
23 posted on 08/16/2012 10:14:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: ConservativeDude
I'm not so sure Hillary would help Bambi as much as you do, she sounds like fingernails on a black board and looks a bit worse.

It's also true they won't jump in if they think Bambi is going to lose. She couldn't handle being the losing VP candidate and the potential scapegoat. If they think he has a good chance of winning, I think they might jump on the bandwagon if they can get her close to the presidency (hint, hint: impeachment, arkancide, etc).

24 posted on 08/16/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: eCSMaster
Let's see if Biden is now made to read a prepared speech from a teleprompter like the Big Guy!
25 posted on 08/16/2012 10:15:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Lakeshark

I too don’t see how Hillary could think such a move would help her. So I’m hoping that that logic would carry the day.

Of course...if you are right that she wouldn’t help that much...and obama were still to lose, then, that would be truly awesome. Sort of a two-fer, whereas beating Biden is sort of non-consequential.

So....we shall see where all this lands in a few weeks.


26 posted on 08/16/2012 10:16:15 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Psy-ops? Hopefully so. Sarah knows the liberal media HATE her and by her going out and positing this publicly, she’s poisoning the idea. What? Sarah Palin has politics smarts enough to suggest 0bama will dump Biden for Hillary, and he DOES IT?????!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 08/16/2012 10:19:13 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Migraine
She is also probably inoculating AGAINST hilary VP by the very fact the dims would be loath to be seen “obeying” her. I love it.

I never really thought of Palin as a strategist. But on this one, I suspect the same thing. She may be suggesting Obama replace Biden with Hillary simply knowing that her suggesting it will absolutely forbid the narcisist in charge from doing exactly as she suggests.

Obama would look week by following the direction of Sara Palin. Therefore, Biden stays where he is.

I have begun to think Palin is suggesting it as "reverse psycology." BTW, that only works in idiots so we'll see.

28 posted on 08/16/2012 10:20:14 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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The FReepathon is still on.
Please donate today!

29 posted on 08/16/2012 10:23:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: RedStateNotShirt
What does PDS stand for?

Palin Derrangement Syndrome

30 posted on 08/16/2012 10:23:53 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Tenacious 1

“Please don’t through me in the briar patch!”


31 posted on 08/16/2012 10:25:29 AM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“And while Clinton has done a stellar job as secretary of state”

I about busted a gut laughing over that one. Bwahahahahaha, snort, snort, snicker, snicker, hehehehehehehehehehe.


32 posted on 08/16/2012 10:27:36 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Biden is an asset, even when he tends to say things without first editing them inside his head (in fact, there's something rather refreshing about that tendency). The vice president is one of the most substantive people in Washington, especially on foreign affairs and budget issues he dealt with for years on the Hill. His relationships with senators on both sides of the aisle help ease the brutally partisan environment in Washington that has kept the two branches from working together. And while Clinton has done a stellar job as secretary of state,,,

You have got to be kidding me! Really?!? Lets look at the results shall we.

Biden is good on budget issues.The budget, if there was one, is out of control.

Foreign affairs? Laughable! Even the bumbling dems know better than to send this moron to a foreign country. They send Michelle instead.

Partisan environment? Worse that anytime in history with exception to maybe the Civil War.

Clinton's stellar job as SOS? The only thing she has "accomplished" is to divide the Mid East against Israel, setting the region up for future bloodshed.

Its no wonder that no one reads these rags anymore.

33 posted on 08/16/2012 10:28:13 AM PDT by vlad335
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To: ConservativeDude
That would be a great two-fer, we can dream can't we?

I'm pondering how we could make that an attractive idea to BJ Clinton..........

:-)

34 posted on 08/16/2012 10:32:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee Susan Milligan, Kennedy biographer, Y’all think so?


35 posted on 08/16/2012 10:34:18 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: SMARTY

FOX talked at least 10 minutes this morning about this being a suggestion made by McCain. Some of the FOX commentators have such a difficult time acknowledging anything Palin that it’s getting ridiculous. McCain’s suggestion was just an echo of Palin’s.


36 posted on 08/16/2012 10:38:40 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Beat me to it, darn it.


37 posted on 08/16/2012 10:39:11 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: TexasCajun

Let’s see if Biden is now made to read a prepared speech from a teleprompter like the Big Guy!”

If so, they will need to make sure that no word has more than two syllables in length. Knowing Joe though,he might read the speech and then say something like, “Now, what we really mean is....” Joe appears to be either off his meds or on new ones that aren’t working and he simply isn’t able to stay on task, much to our amusement.


38 posted on 08/16/2012 10:44:57 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My dear Freepers....

Palin’s suggestion is the fresh version of Limbaugh’s famed OPERATION CHAOS.


39 posted on 08/16/2012 10:52:15 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Grams A

Yeah, I’ve long noticed that too. Instances where Palin either gave a big speech that’s widely quoted, or a Facebook posting that makes some big waves, and they wind up getting covered on CNN, NBC and such... yet only silence from FoxNews. Really noticeable. Especially over the past two years. And considering she’s a bloomin’ contributor for Fox, all the more bizarre. I generally came to the conclusion that it was all part of the Rove/GOP-E stranglehold on the network, which immediately started snubbing (if not outright disparaging) the whole Tea Party/Palin wing after the conclusion of the 2010 mid-terms.


40 posted on 08/16/2012 10:58:25 AM PDT by greene66
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To: LyinLibs

Also, what’s been all over the news lately?

Hillary’s girlfriend, Huma Abedin, has been planted in the State Dept by the Musloid Brotherhood.


41 posted on 08/16/2012 10:58:59 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: driftless2

Shrillary was the anointed one until the anointed one put her in chains.


42 posted on 08/16/2012 11:04:57 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny stuff.


43 posted on 08/16/2012 11:08:20 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: FrdmLvr
Psy-ops? Hopefully so. Sarah knows the liberal media HATE her and by her going out and positing this publicly, she’s poisoning the idea. What? Sarah Palin has politics smarts enough to suggest 0bama will dump Biden for Hillary, and he DOES IT?????!!!!!!!!
I agree.

Plus, it recalls the Obama campaign's despicable treatment of Hillary in 2008, in case any PUMAs are paying attention.

Win, win.

44 posted on 08/16/2012 11:08:36 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: LyinLibs
alin’s suggestion is the fresh version of Limbaugh’s famed OPERATION CHAOS.

How'd that work out for us?

45 posted on 08/16/2012 11:11:15 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: eCSMaster

All Liberals, including Obama, will instinctively shy away from ANY idea if Sarah had anything to do with it.

At the same time it points out the abject hypocrisy of Obama claiming to be the “pro woman” candidate.


46 posted on 08/16/2012 11:14:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Grams A

Fox’s corporate stand on Governor Palin changed after she rejected the Roger Ailes advice to hunker down during the aftermath of the Gabby Giffords shooting.

When she made her “blood libel” statement, it seemed to cause Ailes to turn against her.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: riri

How did this work out for us?


48 posted on 08/16/2012 11:15:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; All

Red on Drudge, Carney slams McCain for suggesting Hillary. Says he wouldn’t take advice from him regarding VP selection (yes a slam on Palin), but I think it was Palin who forced their hand. Talk all over the internet about bring in Hillary and it has been going on for a while. THAT would not have been good, but Palin coming out and giving advice killed the idea (for now). The switch Hilliary for Biden became more of a possibility with Biden’s latest hoof in mouth comments. She spoke up and THAT made if more difficult for them to take the Hillary route. They are only using McCain as an excuse, but Palin was the one who ‘messed things up’ for them, IMO.


49 posted on 08/16/2012 11:21:11 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Bratch; Grams A
Yet they can't drop her, she's the most popular and influential conservative figure since President Ronald Reagan! So they assign Greta Van Sustern, a liberal, Democratic attorney & Scientologist, as her handler. Gov. Palin just shrugs it off and they get along like peas and carrots.
50 posted on 08/16/2012 11:33:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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