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Ballot evidence suggests Ron Paul planning to run as third party candidate
Beatweek ^ | August 17, 2012

Posted on 08/17/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney will not be on the ballot in Washington State, if a lawsuit from the Libertarian party succeeds. Citing a legal technicality which disqualifies the republican party from being considered a “major party” due to its failure to get a senate candidate on the ballot in 2010, libertarians appear to have the law on their side which would disqualify the republican party from being able to place its candidate on state ballots in November. That would remove Romney from the ballot, which would still allow his supporters to write in his name but would likely suppress the number of votes he would receive. Such ballot shenanigans are nothing new, as the republican party is working to rig voting hours in Ohio so that only percents which traditionally vote republican can show up early. But this isn’t Obama or the democratic party trying to get Romney removed from Washington ballots. It’s the libertarian party, which is far more closely allied with the republican party. In fact, while Ron Paul routinely runs for president as a republican candidate, he’s a libertarian who simply prefers to try to change the republican party from within (or prefers the greater spotlight provided by a major party) rather than trying to run as a third party candidate. Except now the libertarian party is attempting to suppress the Romney vote, even though most libertarians would rather see a republican win than a democrat if it were a two-man race. The bizarre yet very real explanation, then, is that Ron Paul is indeed planning to run as a third party candidate…

In past presidential elections, after Ron Paul failed to win the republican nomination, he stepped aside entirely. But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romney’s lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever – a historical rarity which suggests he’s out of gas. This may have given Ron Paul second thoughts about running as a third candidate after all, and the sudden libertarian attempt to get Romney removed from the ballot may be the strongest clue yet…

There’s little chance that Ron Paul would win, as he’s a radical whose policies include cutting all off nearly government services and in fact scrapping several core government agencies in an extremist plan which falls somewhere between Romney’s rich-only policies and pure anarchy. But he does have a pack of enthusiastic supporters (most of whom have confused him for being a harmless old uncle type are completely clueless as to what he stands for) who would vote for him for president in a heartbeat, and most of whom would be changing their vote from Romney to Ron Paul in the process. This would create a scenario which would increase Obama’s chances of winning, similar to when conservative Ross Perot ran as a third candidate in 1992 and took votes away from republican George Bush which helped democrat Bill Clinton to win. So the matter comes down to whether Ron Paul would be willing to cost Romney any chance of winning, for the sake of getting his own name out there and picking up ten or fifteen percent of the vote which he may believe could raise his profile enough to help him perhaps pick up the republican nomination in 2016. Then again, if Ron Paul and the libertarian party believe that Romney has already lost this election, then he may see no harm in running as a third party candidate. And getting Romney removed from the ballot in an entire state would be a great way to help Ron Paul’s chances of making a beachhead. As difficult to believe that Ron Paul would indeed run as a third candidate against the republican nominee, the only other explanation is that Ron Paul’s libertarian party is trying to get Romney removed from the ballot for no reason other than to ensure that Obama gets reelected.


TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: lping; obama; paulestinians; romney; ronpaul
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1 posted on 08/17/2012 7:42:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul must be a big Obama 2012 fan. What a jerk!


2 posted on 08/17/2012 7:46:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a libertarian (small “l”) but if Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party does this, they become another “enemy within” IMO.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 7:47:49 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mostly nonsense.


4 posted on 08/17/2012 7:48:01 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: FlingWingFlyer
that'll show em'....taking a few more votes from Romney so we can get bamey again....

I give up on my fellow Americans...so called "patriots" who are just self deluded and arrogant....

like Buchannon...like the "constitution" party in Minn.....all they do is hand victories to more leftist demorats...

5 posted on 08/17/2012 7:48:56 PM PDT by cherry (/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is nuts if he thinks this does him any good.


6 posted on 08/17/2012 7:49:05 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I will bet any Paulian that Romney will be on the Washington ballot.


7 posted on 08/17/2012 7:49:11 PM PDT by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> There’s little chance that Ron Paul would win

.. and there’s the money quote. Little prick is nothing but a spoiler. Selfish egotistical bastard. Rivals Barky in his narcissism.

He’ll die someday, of something. I take a little consolation in that fact. Hope it’s agonizing.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 7:53:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney was never going to get Washington’s electoral votes anyway.


9 posted on 08/17/2012 7:53:53 PM PDT by Lucas McCain ("The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.")
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To: Ron C.
Ron Paul is nuts

You could have stopped there.

10 posted on 08/17/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PaulTards are Losertarians.


11 posted on 08/17/2012 7:57:14 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer of this blog piece is likely smoking too much mrdical weed


12 posted on 08/17/2012 7:58:45 PM PDT by texican01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a leftist retarded propaganda, but discounting that, I can say that Ron Paul is far more principled, honorable, and freedom oriented than Obomney.


13 posted on 08/17/2012 8:00:30 PM PDT by sagar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weird but moot. Romney wouldn’t win WA state anyway. King County (Seattle-Tacoma area) is too populous, too far Left.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 8:00:45 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 81 days away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ron Paul is trying to steal electoral votes from Obama and you idiots are beating up on him.

Stop reacting and start thinking.

Romney has no chance in Washington State. A libertarian win would mean fewer electoral votes for Obama.

15 posted on 08/17/2012 8:03:08 PM PDT by conservative sympathizer
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To: South40

LOL - yup...


16 posted on 08/17/2012 8:06:28 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What goes around comes around.


17 posted on 08/17/2012 8:06:53 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a bunch of BS.


18 posted on 08/17/2012 8:07:18 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no use for either nutcase slimeball Ron Paul or his liberal Liberarian Party. They are all losers that want attention and cannot find it from the Rats, RINOS, or conservatives.


19 posted on 08/17/2012 8:15:50 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: sagar

“I can say that Ron Paul is far more principled, honorable, and freedom oriented than Obomney.”

And dog crap is not as smelly as bull crap.


20 posted on 08/17/2012 8:20:11 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure Obama’s folks are yelling “Run, Ron, run!”


21 posted on 08/17/2012 8:20:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Proud2BeRight

I used to study late at night in a Liberary. There was this chick who wore glasses and (I guess) was a Liberarian. To this very day I still fantasize about her. Unlike you she could spell you fking moron.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 8:31:51 PM PDT by Blado (Democrats - the party of juvenile unresolved daddy issue rage.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead you jerk. Hand the election to Obama.
Proof that a mental test should be needed to run for President...........


23 posted on 08/17/2012 8:32:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: conservative sympathizer

Everyone knows exactly who the Lil’ Martian is and what he’s up to. Save the BS. No one, especially here, is buying anything Paul.


24 posted on 08/17/2012 8:35:11 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Blado

Stick it!


25 posted on 08/17/2012 8:35:11 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who writes such stupid drivel? The Libertarian Party already has a candidate on the Washington ballot, and it’s not Paul.


26 posted on 08/17/2012 8:45:29 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul...90% brilliant...10% crackpot.

I know someone else like that.
IQ in the 200 range, one of the founders of American Mensa.
He’s the smartest crackpot in the world. I told him that and he really liked the compliment... He’s a really great guy :-)


27 posted on 08/17/2012 9:17:42 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems will try to get him in third party like CRAZY.

What they don’t realize is that Obama will lose more votes to Ron Paul than Romney will.


28 posted on 08/17/2012 9:20:25 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romney’s lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever – a historical rarity which suggests he’s out of gas.”

What a load of crap! I don’t know what “Beatweek” is, but I would careful about using it as an excuse to bash Ron Paul. Now, I will sit back and watch some Freepers become huge proponents of “Beatweek” without actually reading the piece, for the sole reason of bashing Ron Paul.


29 posted on 08/17/2012 9:23:44 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Bobalu

You know Wayne Green, too?


30 posted on 08/17/2012 9:31:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Nervous Tick

So, a column in something called “Beatweek” says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote? One hint that you might have been had is that Gary Johnson, not Ron Paul, is the Libertarian Party candidate. Another is the obvious inability of the author to grasp that “libertarian” and “Libertarian Party” are not exactly the same thing. Also, the sentence that states that Romney is trailing in all national polls strongly suggests that “Beatweek” is staffed by morons.

Sorry to pick on you, but you may as well have relied on something from Democratic Underground or Kos to launch your rant.


31 posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:41 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t everyone ;-)

Many hams know him, he was often at the big hamfests.
He’s got a nice blog, will answer if you email him.
Very interesting guy...eats raw liver.


32 posted on 08/17/2012 9:47:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: cdcdawg

>> So, a column in something called “Beatweek” says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote?

In a word, “yes”.


33 posted on 08/17/2012 9:49:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: PapaNew

How often must it be repeated? Ron Paul is a lying thief! He bloviates against spending, and pork and bridges to nowhere. Then he picks out a Bill that he KNOWS is going to pass when it comes up to a vote, loads it up with billion$ of pork for his district, and then votes against it when the vote is taken. The Bill PASSES, he gets the pork he wanted, but he tells the media he voted AGAINST it! That’s a lying thief!


34 posted on 08/17/2012 9:52:30 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: cdcdawg

What, no ‘barf’ alert?

Shame shame.


35 posted on 08/17/2012 9:55:22 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney wont win Washington.

GOP righteous indignation seems to be based on the rationalization that sure Romney is a liberal but he's our liberal and come hell or high water we are going to vote for him.

36 posted on 08/17/2012 9:56:32 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: Bobalu

When I lived in Biloxi he told me he served on the submarine, USS Drum, which is now docked next to the USS Alabama in Mobile Bay while in the Navy in World War II as one of the radiomen. Did he ever mention that to you? BTW, my wife and I are both MENSA eligible, but what’s the point?


37 posted on 08/17/2012 9:59:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: montanajoe

President Reagan won every state save Minnesota in 1984. President Nixon won every state except Massachusetts in 1972. Then Governor Reagan won all but 5 states, including winning Washington State in 1980.


38 posted on 08/17/2012 10:04:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?


39 posted on 08/17/2012 10:08:39 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?


40 posted on 08/17/2012 10:09:35 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw this was posted in the GOP Club after I made the post if I had been observant enough to note that fact before posting I would not have bothered. I know we will never agree and I don’t see any benefit to stirring the pot


41 posted on 08/17/2012 10:17:29 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe it's best to do this right:

Mitt Romney will not be on the ballot in Washington State, if a lawsuit from the Libertarian party succeeds.

"Libertarian" and "Party" should be capitalized. A minor point, but standards exist for a reason.

the republican party is working to rig voting hours in Ohio so that only percents which traditionally vote republican can show up early.

A leftist lie, containing poor usage. But hey, we can bash Ron Paul over it, so leftists are our friends!

In fact, while Ron Paul routinely runs for president as a republican candidate, he’s a libertarian who simply prefers to try to change the republican party from within (or prefers the greater spotlight provided by a major party) rather than trying to run as a third party candidate.

Ron Paul is a sitting member of the House of Representatives, and is a Republican. When you don't capitalize properly, things get all jumbled. Paul hasn't run as a Libertarian since the 80s.

Except now the libertarian party is attempting to suppress the Romney vote, even though most libertarians would rather see a republican win than a democrat if it were a two-man race. The bizarre yet very real explanation, then, is that Ron Paul is indeed planning to run as a third party candidate…

The Libertarian Party has a candidate, and I doubt he is going to allow Ron Paul on the party's ticket. Seriously, this column is evidence of retardation.

But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romney’s lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever – a historical rarity which suggests he’s out of gas. This may have given Ron Paul second thoughts about running as a third candidate after all, and the sudden libertarian attempt to get Romney removed from the ballot may be the strongest clue yet…

Just in case you made it through the entire first paragraph without realizing you were reading a liberal fantasy, I present you with the second paragraph. If you can't parse this one, you are beyond hope, and likely brain-dead. Report to Daily Kos immediately.

There’s little chance that Ron Paul would win, as he’s a radical whose policies include cutting all off nearly government services and in fact scrapping several core government agencies in an extremist plan which falls somewhere between Romney’s rich-only policies and pure anarchy.

Wow, those right wing extremists come in all sorts of flavors! That a column with those sentiments would get positive comments on Free Republic is just sad. Reading the headline and hating Ron Paul is not quite a complete thought process.

...when conservative Ross Perot ran as a third candidate in 1992 and took votes away from republican George Bush which helped democrat Bill Clinton to win.

Well, lookie there, some truth slipped in.

...the only other explanation is that Ron Paul’s libertarian party is trying to get Romney removed from the ballot for no reason other than to ensure that Obama gets reelected.

Um, former New Mexico Governor, Gary Johnson, is the Libertarian Party candidate for President. It says so right there on their website. Ron Paul was their candidate in 1988. That's six presidential elections ago. Ron Paul could not be the candidate for that party anymore, because he is pro-life. So how is it "Ron Paul's libertarian party"? If we are using moron logic, I suppose it is.

The person that wrote this piece is a fantasizing, leftist half-wit. He/she/it can't write, and doesn't perform even the most basic research. Whether you like, hate, or are indifferent to Ron Paul, if you got sucked into this piece of trash, you have egg on your face.

42 posted on 08/17/2012 10:18:35 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He said he took dangerous sub duty because at the time he was not too concerned if he lived or died.(his dad was a violent drunkard who beat him) He had a fellow that was going to put him in a safe research job and he felt that post should go to a man with a young family so he signed on for the drum...the crew had many close calls. He worked the radar(when on surface), sonar, radios, and many other things on the boat.

He also raised money by having sandwiches made up and having guys go around selling them for him....plus he was an amazing poker player.

I think he mentioned he was running off a newsletter on an old underused mimeo machine....can’t think of the newsletters name....could send an email I guess or search the archive.

Many have asked me to attend Mensa parties....but they sound pretty dull to me. As someone else said “I don’t care to belong to a group that would allow someone like me to become a member”


43 posted on 08/17/2012 11:09:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: iowamark

If he runs it will be paid for by Obama and Seros Money—it is a way to drain off votes so Obama and his motley crew can be re-elected. It will not work. Americans are smarter than that.


44 posted on 08/17/2012 11:12:06 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
watersblogged!: January 2012

45 posted on 08/17/2012 11:14:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have to laugh at all the Freepers who are actually forcing themselves to believe that they are supporting a Conservative in Romney.

For them, the hangover from this election is going to be a head splitter!


46 posted on 08/18/2012 12:04:19 AM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: Mormon Cricket

I’d have supported Hubert Humphrey if he had run against Adolf Hitler and I’ll vote Romney to rid us of Obama. Get it?


47 posted on 08/18/2012 12:22:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Mormon Cricket

Troll.


48 posted on 08/18/2012 12:28:43 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YEP - split the Right.

I’m extremely pro-Paul on issues.

But if he does this, he’s working for Obama.


49 posted on 08/18/2012 12:33:26 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I’m kind of insulted that Obama4AmeriKKKa in Chicago doesn’t send a better class of disruptor troll here. I know Bill Clinton or Al Gore would’ve. Or maybe that’s just the low class of idiots that would take such a job.


50 posted on 08/18/2012 12:35:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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