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Romney’s improved standing
PowerLine ^ | October 6, 2012 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 10/06/2012 6:56:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As John noted earlier today, Mitt Romney is ahead of President Obama by two points in the latest Rasmussen survey, not all of which was conducted after the debate. The reason for Romney’s surge is straightforward, but a memo by highly-respected Republican pollster David Winston helps us appreciate the impact of the debate. Winston notes:

The opening 2012 Presidential debate was watched by a remarkable 67.2 million viewers according to Nielsen, and some have estimated that with computers, tablets, and phones that number may well be over 70 million. This was a 28% increase from the first 2008 Presidential debate audience of 52.4 million, and the largest audience since the Carter-Reagan debate which had 80.6 million viewers.

I like any and all comparisons to the 1980 election, especially in this context. In 1980, America wanted to get oust President Carter, but had doubts about Ronald Reagan. These twin sentiments presumably explain why so many of us tuned in. The same sentiments were at work this week, I suspect. Thus, the debate represented a huge opportunity for Romney.

Winston continues:

There were two media surveys completed right after the debate, one by CNN of those that had watched the debate, the other by CBS of uncommitted voters (undecided or said they could change their mind) who watched the debate. Both showed by significant margins that voters believed Governor Romney won the debate. In the CBS survey, the margin favored Governor Romney 46-22; in the CNN survey it was 67-25.

There was movement for Governor Romney on issues as well. In the CBS survey, he went from leading President Obama by 15 on the economy, to leading by 21. On the issue of taxes, President Obama had been leading by 12, and after the debate Governor Romney led by 5.

More importantly, both these surveys reflected movement toward Governor Romney. In the CNN survey, 35% said they were more likely to vote for Governor Romney as opposed to 18% for President Obama. In the CBS survey, the ballot test went from favoring President Obama by 1 to a 9 point lead for Governor Romney after the debate (23-22 to 25-34).

So, in both these quantitative studies, there was clear movement toward Governor Romney at a scale greater than for President Obama.

Democracy Corps also conducted a post-debate discussion with 45 swing voters in Colorado. Its results were largely consistent with those of CBS and CNN. Democracy Corps concluded, though, that “this debate did not emerge as the game-changer the Romney campaign needed.”

But Winston is not persuaded:

Most of the data in the focus group doesn’t support this conclusion and was more in line with the two quantitative studies by CBS and CNN which showed clear movement. Their rationale was that no supporter of President Obama in the focus group moved to Governor Romney.

Looking at the numbers it looks like this represented about 14 people (out of 45), a small group to make such a definitive conclusion. This is a quantitative conclusion based on qualitative data from 45 people in Denver preselected to match certain demographic criteria. Focus groups can provide possible theories; they cannot provide quantitative conclusions.

So Democracy Corps was spinning.

Here is Winston’s conclusion:

At this point, the full impact of the debate has yet to be realized. As surveys come out over the weekend we will get a more complete sense of movement. What we do know is Governor Romney was seen as winning the debate with over 70 million people watching, and he significantly improved his standing on the number one issue – jobs and the economy.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; obama; polls; romney

1 posted on 10/06/2012 6:56:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The “lame stream media” has been struck a blow. They covered for Obama all these years but the truth is out. Obama is an empty bucket.
2 posted on 10/06/2012 7:11:30 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Armaggedon

Remember how they blasted Clint Eastwood for his Obama as an empty chair analogy? Now even the very liberal New Yorker magazine is portraying Obama as such.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 7:18:00 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Clint Esstwood had Obama’s number. “0”. He made our day.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 7:21:09 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thank you for posting another great article! Obama has been spending hundreds of millions of dollars vilainizing Mitt Romney and the mainstream media has built Obama up so much that peoples’ expectations were vastly different from reality. When Obama came across as a smart Alec bored teenager and Mitt Romney came across as a caring, intelligent, successful businessman; it just knocked everyone for a loop. Obama’s strongest supporters got the hardest hit from reality. These people were shocked back out of la-la land. For the most part they couldn't even spin it for their man after the debates.

A couple days later Obama’s people have written some sly come backs, but at this point it is just pathetic to anyone who is not still a true believer. Obama has been exposed as the teleprompter reading puppet that he is. He is floundering.

5 posted on 10/06/2012 7:49:07 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I think the lefties in the media are trying to fire up Obama so he'll come out in the second debate with smoke coming out of his ears. Romney just needs to remain cool and stay the course.
6 posted on 10/06/2012 7:52:14 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Remember how they blasted Clint Eastwood for his Obama as an empty chair analogy? Now even the very liberal New Yorker magazine is portraying Obama as such.
Worth repeating.
7 posted on 10/06/2012 7:52:40 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Major Matt Mason
Aside from Biden/Ryan next week the next obama/Romney debate is a "town hall" meeting with questions from the audience. It is hard to see how he can come out smoking in that format without making people uncomfortable and putting them off.

I expect a lot of pandering to people's emotions and carefully fabricated sob stories. OTOH Romney has a largely untold personal story that might be addressed by a questioner, and I hope it is This could be his chance to close the deal on the lame but significant "likeability" rating.

8 posted on 10/06/2012 8:21:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In 1980, America wanted to get oust President Carter, but had doubts about Ronald Reagan. These twin sentiments presumably explain why so many of us tuned in. The same sentiments were at work this week, I suspect. Thus, the debate represented a huge opportunity for Romney.

And Romney and Team knew this perfectly, hence Romney's very intense debate prep. Chris Christie said the race would be turned upside down on Thursday morning and that is exactly what happened. Obama down in swing states and Romney up. So much for the the opinion of all the arm chair campaign strategist "genius's" who said Romney was running the worst, most inept campaign ever.

9 posted on 10/07/2012 2:56:17 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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So much for the the opinion of all the arm chair campaign strategist "genius's" who said Romney was running the worst, most inept campaign ever.

Most of them were hoping to prove him an idiot to justify their attempts to marginalize him and keep the door open for Zero.

10 posted on 10/07/2012 4:01:51 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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