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What the Case for Palin in 2016 Says About Conservatives
The Nation ^ | November 19, 2012 | Ben Adler

Posted on 11/21/2012 1:50:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In the Republican crack up following their loss on November 6, conservative pundits have tossed out innumerable arguments about how to win next time. It was inevitable that someone would come up with the worst possible idea. And, sure enough, someone has. Writing in the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, conservative pundit Charlotte Allen declares, “I’ve got a suggestion for cutting short the GOP angst: Sarah Palin for president in 2016.”

Reading Allen’s piece is interesting because of what it shows about the mindset of some conservatives: that pundits who think as Allen does have no respect for policy, no seriousness about governance and no respect for the American voter.

Allen hails from one of the more intellectually serious and respectable corners of the conservative media. Her author bio on Townhall.com, a conservative magazine website for which she has written, reads: “Charlotte Allen is a contributing editor for the Manhattan Institute’s Minding the Campus website. She writes regularly for the Weekly Standard and is a frequent contributor of opinion pieces to the Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post.” The Manhattan Institute is a think tank that served as the idea factory for Rudy Giuliani’s mayoralty. Allen contributes to its academia-focused blog. The Weekly Standard is one of the most influential magazines among the DC Republican elite. (Vice President Dick Cheney would send someone to personally fetch thirty copies of it upon publication every week.) It features some of the best writers in conservative journalism, such as Andrew Ferguson, Christopher Caldwell and Matt Labash. So it is not as if analyzing Allen’s is the same as, say, unfairly picking on some random person with his own blog...

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016; palin; sarahpalin; women
When the far, far left offers you advice, best do the exact opposite.
1 posted on 11/21/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t matter. The leftist are going to win every election as long as the corruption exists.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 2:02:53 PM PST by Digger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Forget Palin. She should not run for president.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 2:13:55 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the Republican crack up following their loss on November 6, conservative pundits have tossed out innumerable arguments about how to win next time

Conservatives did not have a candidate in the election. The moderate to the left candidate run by the Republican Party lost . To a FAILED President!


4 posted on 11/21/2012 2:16:47 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: I want the USA back

Moderate Republicans will not vote for Palin. She is too much of a loose cannon. Personally I find her sexy but my wife feels she is a dip. Only having half of the party vote for her will not beat a Dem - even if its Biden (yikes). I see a Chris Christie or Rubio vs Clinton


5 posted on 11/21/2012 2:17:42 PM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GOP had better get serious about solving the corruption issue at the voting booth or all of this is wasted energy.

I haven’t heard anyone at GOP Central acknowledge that there is a problem. So I’d say we’ve got a tough row to hoe.


6 posted on 11/21/2012 2:22:16 PM PST by marron
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To: GerardKempf

Even with Christie the Democrats will probably win the Islamic vote, same for the Hispanics and Rubio.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 2:27:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As for Palin: On the down-side she has a tendency to speak in cliches that can be off-putting. On the up-side, her understanding of conservative principle - which is to say, the freedom principle - is heart-felt and instinctive. She is fearless. She walks to her own drum.

Put her up against the 90% of the weasels in the GOP and she is an easy and obvious choice.

Don’t like her? Find me someone better.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 2:28:56 PM PST by marron
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To: I want the USA back

9 posted on 11/21/2012 2:33:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When the far, far left offers you advice, best do the exact opposite.

Like a movie critic who always loves what you hate and hates what you love, they can be worthwhile as long as they are consistent. When it comes to Sarah Palin, the left is very consistent.

10 posted on 11/21/2012 2:38:33 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: GerardKempf
Moderate Republicans will not vote for Palin. She is too much of a loose cannon. Personally I find her sexy but my wife feels she is a dip. Only having half of the party vote for her will not beat a Dem - even if its Biden (yikes). I see a Chris Christie or Rubio vs Clinton

Romney successfully overcame the far left media's caricature that he was a right wing extremist. What he could not overcome was the accurate perception by conservatives that Romney is a liberal, the creator of RomneyCare, a man so far to the left that he would use the phrase "severely conservative" to describe himself when trying to appeal to real conservatives. Independents were willing to consider Romney, once they knew him. What we didn't have were enough conservatives to overcome the margin of fraud in key states.

Similarly, Palin speaks well enough to overcame the far left media's caricature that she is a right wing extremist. Independents will be willing to consider Palin, once they know her. If she declares early, she will have my full time support. If she is not in the race early, I will not sit on the sidelines while Chris Christie, another Bush, and the usual suspects line up for GOP insider support. It is time to unite behind a single conservative who can knock the next Dole/McCain/Romney out of the race, and waiting to see if Sarah would go for it put us behind on that contest a year ago.

11 posted on 11/21/2012 2:58:03 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GerardKempf
You're saying moderates won't vote for Palin. Yet you somehow think Conservatives will vote for Christie?

Palin has natural leadership qualities and she is a solid conservative.

12 posted on 11/21/2012 2:58:37 PM PST by libertymaker
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To: GerardKempf

Christie can shove it. No way in hell I’m voting for him.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 3:01:40 PM PST by rintense
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I support Sarah for President.....much better than president valerie jarrett


14 posted on 11/21/2012 3:15:29 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...have no respect for policy, no seriousness about governance and no respect for the American voter.

That sure sounds a heck of a lot more like the ***-clown we are stuck with in power right now than anyone else - ever.

15 posted on 11/21/2012 3:31:14 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: GerardKempf

“I see a Chris Christie or Rubio vs Clinton”

If Clinton runs, the only person who will be able to defeat her will be a woman. If the democrat candidate is a man, then we need a VERY conservative candidate, and it would be helpful it it were a woman.

I presume that by loose cannon, you mean Palin says what she thinks...


16 posted on 11/21/2012 3:33:24 PM PST by babygene
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To: babygene
I will not vote for anymore rhinos....It is third party time...even if it is in the GOP..... It is time for Conservatives to elect there own leaders in the senate and house and fight it out with the RINOS...
17 posted on 11/21/2012 4:40:53 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: GerardKempf
Moderate Republicans will not vote for Palin

What makes you believe conservatives would vote for Christie or Rubio?

18 posted on 11/21/2012 4:46:23 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many voted for her in ‘08, when she was not allowed to fully be herself (restrained by the RINO strategists in the McCain camp)?

Seems like she would be able to command that many again, plus a lot more, as the candidate at the top of the ticket and the ability to run the campaign her way.

She might not even want to run, but if she did I would support her.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 4:57:50 PM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2016 is now irrelevant. We lost the nation in 2012. It is over. 2016 won’t be an improvement. The GOPe will run Jeb Bush and he will win and will take us deeper into the socialist totalitarian gulag.

We had one chance to overturn Obamacare, we didn’t, and now nothing matters going forward. The race into socialist tyranny will go on unimpeded.

The fix is in. 2016 is irrelevant. It is meaninless. Enjoy the rest of your time on earth and pray for your offspring. They will need all your prayers. Freedom will die in America so be thankful you were mostly free during your lifetime. You are among the last of the free Americans.

Nothing can now stop the coming tyranny. 2016 is an illusion. It means nothing. The country is already doomed no matter what happens in 2016.


20 posted on 11/21/2012 5:14:06 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Pray to God. Apologize to your children.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

21 posted on 11/21/2012 5:32:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GerardKempf
Hi, you poor whipped troll.

I'll vote for Sarah in a heartbeat based on her instinctive conservatism and her hatred of graft and corruption.

There was an article awhile back which pointed out that any woman above an "8" was immune to visceral Palin-hatred; suggesting that most women's revulsion for her was simple jealousy.

Which is pretty odd when you consider that she is the literal embodiment of the empowered feminist: a successful career from scratch, based not on connections or Daddy's money or riding Hubby's coattails, but on pure merit.

And married to a hunk stud.

And a career and family at the same time (suck on *that*, Ann-Marie Slaughter: this "Alaska Barbie" managed to "have it all" in a way that even your Princeton professorship couldn't give you!).

Which is what feminism promised to women, right?

So couple that with her radiant looks, and *presto* -- blind, seething rage.

In fact, the operative word is one which women use under their breath or behind other women's backs:

"Bitch."

But nothing substantive about her ability to fill the office -- only accusations from personal spite.

Cheers!

22 posted on 11/22/2012 5:17:24 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m a supporter of Sarah Palin because she is a true conservative and an honest person.

Empowered feminist? Married to a hunk stud? I couldn’t care less.

What she did by cleaning up corruption in Alaska was splendid, just spendid. It is that accomplishment in Alaska, packing the guilty off to prison, that scares the Hell out of establisment Republicans and Democrats.

Sarah Palin is an honest leader - exactly what we need in Washington, D.C.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 11:30:27 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
I agree with you; but I think you misunderstood my post.

The reason I wrote what I did, was not that those things are "why to vote for Palin" -- but why most other women will not.

They're jealous.

Cheers!

24 posted on 11/23/2012 7:28:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know, a lot of people think there is this give and take and all we have to do is mount another charge to retake the nation.

I am sticking a fork in the nation. It’s over. So lightening up for me doesn’t work. What works for me is prayer and resolve and knowing that nothing matters anymore. The end will come slowly relative to the balance of my lifetime, but the die is cast. The fix is in. We lost this nation.

Lucky are those who falsely believe we can still save this nation. Those people can enjoy their dreams.

People like me — I know the die is cast and we are racing toward hard socialism. There is nothing for me to be light about except that God is in control and has a plan and ultimately what happens on this earth is completely irrelevant.

Other than that, we have passed the tipping point of immoral and uneducated voters and there is no turning back. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

There will be no tea party president for 2016. It will be a GOPe member who is on board with the New World Order and creating the UN’s one world government.

Mark my words and see if I am not right in 2016.

The inability to overturn Obamacare marks the end of American liberty as we know it.

It’s over. Nothing matters. You can think it does but it doesn’t. It’s over and the socialists have one at home while the terrorists are winning abroad.


25 posted on 11/30/2012 12:26:11 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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