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Romney was not the problem
The Daily Caller ^ | November 21, 2012 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/22/2012 10:31:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Small minds always leap to the answers given the last time around, which is probably why Maxine Waters keeps getting re-elected. But the last time is not necessarily the same as this time. A terrorist attack is not the same as the Cold War, a war in Afghanistan is not the same as a war in Iraq, and Mitt Romney is not the same as John McCain or Bob Dole.

But since the election, many conservatives seem to be coalescing around the explanation for our defeat given by Jenny Beth Martin of the Tea Party Patriots, who said: “What we got was a weak, moderate candidate handpicked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party. The presidential loss is unequivocally on them.”

There was also the seven months of primaries, during which Romney got more votes than the rest of the field combined. So there’s that. Moreover, the idea that Mitt Romney was “a weak, moderate candidate” is preposterous...

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She needs professional help.
1 posted on 11/22/2012 10:31:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm not sure -- maybe Romney was not the problem. But I do know one thing: Republicans like Ann Coulter are the problem.
2 posted on 11/22/2012 10:33:10 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, he wasn’t the solution, either.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 10:37:53 AM PST by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sometimes you have to admit to being wrong and then move on. Coulter appears to be digging in.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 10:38:12 AM PST by deadrock
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, Romney and his advosors were the problem. Teh father of Romneycare (the model for Obamacare), the guy who gave Massachusetts judges who helped force gay marriage on the people, the country-club, Wall Street, Etch A Sketch “moderate” who ran a bad campaign and wouldn’t challenege BO on Benghazi or much of anything else, isn’t the problem?

So who are we supposed to blame? Conservatives?

The GOP is stuck in an infinite stupid loop:

RUN “MODERATE”
LOSE ELECTION
BLAME CONSERVATIVES
MOVE LEFT
RUN “MODERATE” ...


5 posted on 11/22/2012 10:38:57 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DEADROCK

Well, if there is a skeleton in a hole, shovel the dirt in on her. She’s done.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 10:38:57 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say it again, and said it from the beginning. Romney WAS the problem. Said he’d lose in an EV landslide (he did). Said the Dims would gain in the Senate. (they did). To be fair, I really thought the Dims would eek out a majority in the House. Glad I missed that one. I was eviscerated as some wanna be LibTard for saying the ONLY person to listen to about polls was Nate Silver. We need to stop worrying about the messenger and listen to the facts. We get none (facts) from our so-called conservative pundits.

It was evident to anyone with an ounce of IQ, and should be so now, that Romney was an utter disaster. It wasn’t some bizarre conspiracy or voter fraud. We, again, nominated a terrible candidate. Don’t think so? Then do the same thing in 2016 and see what happens.

The GOP Elite use these silly conspiracies to keep us at each other and in disarray because they KNOW if we coalesced we’d nominate a decent conservative.

Romney is, and was, a fool So was McSame. Are we gonna do it again? I sure hope not.


7 posted on 11/22/2012 10:40:28 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There was also the seven months of primaries, during which Romney got more votes than the rest of the field combined.

Only after he had clinched. For most of the time, he was getting 35 percent or so. I distinctly remember Newt Gingrich complaining on more than one primary night that "Once again, Senator Santorum and I got about two thirds of the votes..."

8 posted on 11/22/2012 10:40:49 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why is Ann Coulter the problem? Was Ann responsible for Michele Bachmann’s kamikazi attack on Rick Perry? Was Ann responsible for Herman Cain’s lack of preparation for being a frontrunner and for his poor handling of the adultry allegation? Was Ann responsible for Newt’s bounced checks and for Santorum inability to win his home state?

Ann is one person with an opinion, I don’t always agree with her, but to say she is the problem is silly.


9 posted on 11/22/2012 10:41:15 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Ann: Congratulations! Your candidate won the election! Thanks to you, Mitt Romney and the Republican Party will spend the next four years growing our economy and keeping us safe from the Libyan navy!

It’s like I told the boys on the basketball team I coached...”Yeah, we lost this game, but it’s only truly a defeat if we don’t learn from it.”

Ann, you’re taking this loss and turning it into a defeat.


10 posted on 11/22/2012 10:42:41 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: stop_fascism

Exactly. There was nothing wrong with Romney, he just was NOT more popular than Barack Hussein Obama.


11 posted on 11/22/2012 10:42:41 AM PST by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: TBP

The number of votes in a primary are irrelevant, Reagan got the most votes in the 1968 GOP primary.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 10:43:27 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

first she is an idiot who wanted us to have Romney and who helped attack Newt, now aimgine of they atacked jug ears half the way they did to Newt, Sarah , Col West?

Secondly a massive rigged election does not help us.

Third, we have so many cowards on our side who will not call out the media , name names and their bias, hell even Candy Crowley showed her bias and not a peep really from the GOP.

Fourthly, put a damn conservative out there who can win not someone who supported homosexuals, Govt health care.

5th, speak up, call the media out , run AD’s of their bias help the likes of Sarah, West and the base will be out like they have never seen.
Our distain for obama what the GOP counted on was not enough to beat the corrupt election and the elfts lies and attacks


13 posted on 11/22/2012 10:43:27 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Romney could have been an excellent President.
I was not a fan in the primary’s, but always recognized that a President must be able to unify the general electorate.
Beyond that they must lead.

I think Romney had all that.

The X factor is charisma and a complicit sycophant press.
Obama had neither A or B, but he had the X factor.

Charisma is an odd thing.
I see through Obamas 3 card monte crap, but a lot of the electorate is hypnotized.
I swear he could crap on Americas collective head and the electorate would cheer!


14 posted on 11/22/2012 10:43:27 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Tell us now, not in August of 2016, who you want the nominee to be. I am tired of people saying who they don’t want, who should we support?

Right now, I support Tom McClintock, I am laying it out now not four years from today.


15 posted on 11/22/2012 10:46:31 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Amen!!

The problem here is that conservatives cant get on the same page even when there is only one candidate left.

Stop the circular firing squad and circle the wagons!!


16 posted on 11/22/2012 10:47:36 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was Romney's race to lose. And he managed to lose to the weakest incumbent since Jimmah Carter.

How did he do that? Well, he effectively took Obamacare off the table as a campaign issue with his continued cheerleading for Romneycare. He took Wall Street backing for Dems off the table as he was clearly associated with Wall Street. He pretended to be a regular guy when he was nothing of the sort - and voters hate phonies (ask John Kerry how pretending to be a hunter worked out for him).

He played it safe and waited for Obama to lose instead of finishing Obama off with a campaign willing to take risks. He ran a TV, phone and direct mail campaign in the age of social media. And in the worst case of self-inflicted damage, his brain trust came up with a system - ORCA - that my assistants right out of college saw the problems with when they read about it later.

Seriously, this guy was running a campaign based on the notion of competence - yet in the critical GOTV effort, they violated a staggering number of basic rules for systems and logistics. ORCA to me epitomizes what was wrong with the Romney campaign - an overpaid MBA mindset that their superior brains obviate the need for basic hard work and grassroots strategy.

So yes, Ann, in the end it all comes back to Romney, because he set the tone with his own rudderless beliefs. He gave swing voters no compelling reason to vote for him - so those swing voters who went for Obama in 2008 appear to have largely not voted for president at all.

17 posted on 11/22/2012 10:47:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give it a rest Annie

ALl we know for sure, is that Mitt Romney was NOT THE ANSWER.

....

Where is crying girl “Leave Mitt Romney alone!!”


18 posted on 11/22/2012 10:48:58 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I get the feeling that if Coulter tried to convince Mr. R of this website of this in person, the tirade unleashed upon her in reply would make her start to look like Iron Maiden’s mascot “Eddie” as he appeared on that band’s debut album . . . →→→→
19 posted on 11/22/2012 10:50:05 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ClearCase_guy

America needs a better class of voters.

There is a rump parliament that seems to take over and steer this country in just about every crisis today, and they seem to get into office by minority victories, at best a plurality. Only rarely do any of them actually gain a true majority, of at least 50% plus a few.

This would not be so much of a problem, except for the polarization that has been a continuing feature of our politics since at least the time of Richard Nixon. Probably it went on long before that, but mostly, one side or the other could maintain continuity of American interests if there was a change in political parties at the national level, and Americans could be pretty sure of that. But this Current Occupant of the White Hut cannot be relied upon to support US interests in the face of adversity around the world, and even seems ready to pre-emptively surrender, even before the situation has reached serious proportions.

A situation which cannot continue for long, before it must be resolved in one way or the other. And from all appearances, the Current Occupant seems determined to impose his version of America as a Third-world country by any means possible.


20 posted on 11/22/2012 10:53:31 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.

There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans, as many term the fraud- but CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.

http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.

We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America.

That’s what people fail to understand.

Col Allen West; “I don’t want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic.

Col West has opened the door.
It’s now up to We The People.

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.

The evidence is overwhelming!

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/video-eyewitness-of-somali-muslim-voter-fraud-in-ohio-by-obama-camp.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-aVy_s76ZY

https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-stole-the-election/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rMpQKqZhM

http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/

http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/obama-stole-the-election

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts

http://appalachianforums.com/forums/Dickenson_County,_Virginia.pl/md/read/id/255145

http://beforeitsnews.com/election-2012/2012/11/stolen-election-evidence-is-mounting-everything-points-to-stolen-votes-2446928.html

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/adding-up-the-evidence-to-a-stolen-election/

http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/allen-west-mitt-romney-and-the-massive-voter-fraud-machine/

http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

http://foxnewsinsider.com/tag/voter-fraud/

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/01/voter-fraud-is-no-myth-its-more-common-than-you-think/

http://thewillcountynews.com/?p=415

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4279497/obama-stole-election/

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud/page/full/

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/11/333-000-Votes-in-4-Swing-States-Would-Have-Given-Romney-the-Presidency

Accuracy In Media

The Left’s national voter fraud strategy exposed:

http://www.aim.org/special-report/the-lefts-national-vote-fraud-strategy-exposed/

Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing:

http://www.examiner.com/article/cast-aside-thousands-of-votes-from-our-military-troops-uncounted-or-missing

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five-registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJsjsmjNq5x.twitter

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/volpe/complaint-filed-over-illegal-alien-voters/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chicago-source-tells-author-brad-thor-obama-campaign-planning-to-proclaim-early-victory-to-demoralize-romney-supporters/

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/05/brit-hume-on-presidential-polling-theres-something-wrong-here/#ixzz2BSER1mKj

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/matthew-vadum/obamas-army-of-illegal-election-workers/

http://mvpproject.org/in-the-news/va-military-absentee-ballots-going-awol-in-2012/

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Dozens-of-Romney-Voters-In-Colorado-Complain-Machines-Changed-Votes-To-Obama

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/11/03/breaking_naacp_takes_over_polling_station_advocates_for_president_obama_at_houston_polling_location

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/claims-increasing-switched-votes-in-ohio/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/more-electronic-voting-machines-changing-romney-votes-to-obama-we-looked-into-it-and-heres-what-a-vendor-told-us/

http://www.marionstar.com/article/20121031/NEWS03/310310009/Problem-found-board-elections?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57550603/citing-high-number-of-rural-black-voters-maine-gop-chair-suspects-improprieties-at-the-polls/

http://www.naturalnews.com/037952_vote_fraud_Philadelphia_elections.html

Demonstration- voter machine hacked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FPuLNjvAc&feature=youtu.be

http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/allen-west-mitt-romney-and-the-massive-voter-fraud-machine/#ixzz2CJk9QHHE

http://www.barackofraudo.com/

Go to http://www.facebookcensorship.com and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.

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What you can do:
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Visit these sites:
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http://thecompetentconservative.com/elections-have-not-yet-been-certified-heres-what-you-can-do/

Most of ‘Obama Voter Fraud’ activity is moving to FaceBook.
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Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
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Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
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21 posted on 11/22/2012 10:54:03 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: GeronL
Where is crying girl “Leave Mitt Romney alone!!”

You may find this disturbing, but that was not a girl.

22 posted on 11/22/2012 10:55:42 AM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: stop_fascism

It’s a combination of a ho-hum candidate, a growing idiotic population who hates whitey and an embarrassed “i am a conservative” conservatives.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 10:57:33 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The country does not deserve a business oriented president. What people want is free stuff from the government.

1 in 5 residents of US are now on FREE Medicaid.
FREE Food stamps approaching almost 50 Million with 450,000 added in July+August which USDA suppressed the news until now.
FREE Rent subsidy
FREE Heat subsidy
FREE Obamacare
FREE Obama phones
FREE Contraceptives
FREE Mammograms
FREE Pre-natal care & delivery
FREE Transportation to medical facility
FREE Translators for non-English speaking
FREE Lawyers for the indigent
FREE Pell Grants
FREE Daycare

Like every socialist country before us, we will be enticed into socialism. Like every socialist country before us the rich will get less rich, AND THE POOR WILL GET MORE POOR.

Eventually when other people’s money runs out we will again make a turn towards capitalism, like China is doing, like all formerly Soviet satellite countries in Eastern Europe are doing, like East Germans are doing, Like India is doing.

The cycle must repeat since the masses are not intelligent enough to learn from actual history.


24 posted on 11/22/2012 10:59:01 AM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: All

I am still shocked and furious that Romney lost. This should have been a slam dunk and he screwed up. Just like McCain, Romney was too nice while Obama was the aggressive street-fighter. When will the GOP ever learn that you have to play dirty to win?

Romney should have explained the negative impacts of the debt, deficit spending and Obamacare. He should have hammered this toward the younger voters.

Why Romney never pummeled Obama over Benghazi I will never know.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 11:01:06 AM PST by eekitsagreek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coulter sounds more like a whiny liberal turd these days. Flush.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 11:07:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: mylife
The problem here is that conservatives cant get on the same page even when there is only one candidate left.

I have to disagree. Conservatives largely did get behind Romney. The problem was, Obama lost millions of voters from 2008 yet Romney was unable to pull them into his orbit - because IMO he presented them with a candidate that they just could not relate to. And it didn't have anything to do with free stuff with most swing voters, otherwise they would have stayed with Obama. Instead, Romney offered no compelling vision as to why he sought the presidency - because IMO he sought it for reasons that had nothing to do with core principles or values.

27 posted on 11/22/2012 11:07:55 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Perdogg

I supported Newt in my state’s primary and he lost. Though I’m not a huge fan of Romney I had no problem voting for him in November because the alternative is a nightmare and sadly the nightmare is going to continue and grow worse over the next four years. Conservatives are waiting for the next Reagan to show themselves and won’t vote for someone who doesn’t fit that high standard. I got news for you folks that person didn’t run for the GOP nomination in 2012. If Newt or Rick had been the nominee a bunch of you would have found faults with them too. Democrats always rally around their people and the GOP eats its own. No doubt in 2016 we’re going to have the same issues with a Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, etc. The Republican Party is not a perfect vehicle for conservative principles, far from it, but if you think going third party is the solution then be prepared to see Democratic presidents for the next fifty years.


28 posted on 11/22/2012 11:11:09 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not sure why anyone listens to Bill Maher’s girlfriend. She is no longer relevant....if she ever was.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 11:12:30 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: dirtboy

Romney was turning out HUGE crowds in deep blue territory.
Obama was barely able lure folks with free food.

Something is really amiss in our analysis of what went wrong.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 11:13:11 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: eekitsagreek

There are many things I don’t know, and like you don’t understand why he went soft after the first debate. He had zero on the ropes, then did nothing to get the knock out punch he needed. Perhaps it was his mushy advisers - the same ones who were in the McCain camp. Why do they insist on using these useless retread losers?

Romney wasn’t hip or cool. SO what? I don’t care if my president is hip or cool. I want someone who has the smarts to turn this country around. Mitt had it - then lost it. He also avoided conservatives like the plague. He kept saying he was going to repeal obamacare, but never told the uninformed why or what was in the bill. Maybe he was afraid that if he did then obama would hit back with the fact that obamacare was based on romneycare - and it was. Most of us knew this would be a huge problem for Mitt.

Benghazi still remains a mystery. Why he didn’t punch him in the political face with this is beyond most of us. He got snookered by Candy Crowley and lost his nerve or something. I don’t know - all I know is we have 4 more years of a marxist in the WH because Romney and camp decided to take the “high” road and play nice. IT worked very well for McCain too.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 11:13:11 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This woman has turned into a complete idiot loser! The evidence is right in front of everyone's face and yet this blowhard dumbass can't face facts!

It's so incredible crass of Ann to use the evidence against the facts! She state's the purpose, then dismisses reality like the wind. That's what's truly "preposterous."

32 posted on 11/22/2012 11:13:26 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Perdogg
By 2016 Obama will have legalized millions of new Democrat, currently illegal, voters. He will have revised our laws and further made Congress irrelevant. He will have made the US subordinate to new treaties and greatly devastated the US military. I doubt the 2016 Presidential election will matter other than for show.
33 posted on 11/22/2012 11:14:11 AM PST by Truth29
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To: TBP
So who are we supposed to blame? Conservatives?

Yes, damn it. Conservatives were the problem, they didn't vote. How many times do we have to state it is the ass hats that didn't vote they loose. IT WAS THE DAMN VOTERS.........THAT STAYED AWAY BECAUSE OF STUPID IGNORANCE. To proved a point and elected King Obama.

34 posted on 11/22/2012 11:15:10 AM PST by Logical me
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To: eekitsagreek

Obama looked whipped.
Romney looked confident.
The economy was the topic du jour and it still is.

We all saw it.
I don’t think Obama thought he was going to win.

Romney ran a VERY competent strong race, but he lost to the Ozero.
The question is why?
The answer is not “shoot our own.”


35 posted on 11/22/2012 11:19:46 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Logical me

Thank you.


36 posted on 11/22/2012 11:21:01 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The media began portraying a rosy future for the economy about a month before the election...in the end it swayed enough voters to go with “the devil they know.”


37 posted on 11/22/2012 11:21:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What we got was a weak, moderate candidate handpicked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party. The presidential loss is unequivocally on them”

Seems spot on to me.


38 posted on 11/22/2012 11:26:22 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: dfwgator

No.
The market started responding to the notion that Mitt would win.
Obama won and the market tanked again.


39 posted on 11/22/2012 11:27:14 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
First of all, realize that what seems to be deep blue often is purple. I work two miles away from where Romney had his first PA rally. There are a lot more Republicans here than people in red states realize. The base was motivated.

But you have to do more than just win the base to win the Electoral College swing states. Was there voter fraud? Yes, and they were blatant about it. But Obama still came in, what, 6-8 million votes below 2008? Yet it appears that Romney, once all votes are in, might come in a million or so more votes than McCain in 2008, a very bad year for Republicans.

Romney failed to be a likeable candidate for the swing voters that drifted away from Obama. These people often vote on gut feelings. I have a relative who didn't vote. He thought it was completely bogus that Romney tried to claim being just like a regular American, when he has his own small business and fights to just make payroll. Other people I have talked to felt the same way.

Romney was a second-generation politician, like Gore and too many others nowadays. He showed more inclination to attack his primary opponents than Obama - typical of the GOP-E mindset. In the end, his vision for the presidency was that he wanted to be president. And I think a lot of swing voters realized that.

40 posted on 11/22/2012 11:27:45 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney was not the problem. He was, however representative and emblematic of, the problem. The Republcian Party is organized with the purpose of giving Nominations to deserving bobdoles of which it has a tremendous backlog. There is no ideology or principle beyond that.
41 posted on 11/22/2012 11:28:15 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: mylife

The average moron in this country didn’t interpret it that way, they don’t think like “the market” does, they believe what the media tells them.


42 posted on 11/22/2012 11:29:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: FastCoyote
Who is them?


43 posted on 11/22/2012 11:30:31 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dfwgator

I wonder what the average moron thinks of food prices this thanksgiving?


44 posted on 11/22/2012 11:32:34 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: arthurus
Romney was not the problem. He was, however representative and emblematic of, the problem. The Republcian Party is organized with the purpose of giving Nominations to deserving bobdoles of which it has a tremendous backlog. There is no ideology or principle beyond that.

Exactly. You can run the most effective, efficient campaign on the planet, but if you fail to connect with a strong principled message from a candidate that the electorate is hungry for- you still lose.

45 posted on 11/22/2012 11:38:35 AM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: TADSLOS

The briefly tolerated Reagan, because he showed he can win, but it was right back to Business As Usual, when his two terms were up.


46 posted on 11/22/2012 11:39:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: DEADROCK

Didn’t love Romney as my favorite choice, but he painted and excellent contrast to Obama and the people voted for Santa Clause Obama.
Romney wasn’t perfect, but I know of few candidates who are.

Keep in mind even Ronald Reagan could not make Governor in CA at this time.
The people are different.
We are IMO seeing 40 years or more of the effect of give-aways, growing government employment, brainwashing by union teachers and allowing grade school dropouts from outside our nation into our country and on our dole demanding more.

We had much greater issues than Romney IMO.

This was not a failure on the Republican/conservative side outside of those committing suicide who did not vote.


47 posted on 11/22/2012 11:40:06 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You got that one right


48 posted on 11/22/2012 11:41:11 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Catsrus
Romney wasn’t hip or cool. SO what? I don’t care if my president is hip or cool.

Swing voters often vote their gut feelings. Romney failed to connect with them. And the trick is NOT to pretend you are a Democrat-lite. Ask Bob Dole. Romney apparently thought he could just simply claim he is a regular guy - when he is not. He could not relate to a middle-class person trying hard to stay in the middle class. People saw in him, right or wrong, the guy who swoops down on a company and triggers layoffs. He really was the wrong candidate for this election on so many levels.

The GOP wins when it runs anti-elitists, or at least men or women that come across as such. Reagan was a non-Ivy leaguer. Bush may have been a third-generation blueblood, but he lived the life of a guy whose idea of high cusine was a cheeseburger and whose idea of fun was clearing brush. Palin (the only thing that gave McCain a fighting chance) was a blue-collar gal and a true reformer. Romney could never shake the image of the oily MBA born into privilege that you hope is never let anywhere near the reigns of the division you work in.

49 posted on 11/22/2012 11:41:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: entropy12

1 in 5 residents of US are now on FREE Medicaid
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
PLUS all your listed FREE’s....

However, the real BAD GUY here is us that draw SS. AFTER toiling in the work place for decades and being forced to pay into a system that we probably didn’t really like anyway, just another tax under a different ruse.
When ‘they’ bashed us with SS Tax, ‘they’ came along and invented Medicare - FORCING - us to back that, again when those that paid into it want to ‘use’ it, ‘they’ are the BAD GUY also....
I don’t use MEDICARE, as I am in the VA ‘system’ but, then again that was earned in another lifetime, while drawing substandard pay and ‘worked - well on call’ 24/7.

So, in a nutshell, the problem is Legitimate SS drawers, Legitimate Medicaid drawers, Legitimate Militay/Govt pensions, while the FREELOADERS and UNDERACHIEVERS are to be pitied....

BIZARRO WORLD for sure.


50 posted on 11/22/2012 11:41:21 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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