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Grant D.C statehood: Move the nationís capital to Louisville
The Hill ^ | December 26, 2012 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 12/26/2012 10:27:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Huffington Post reports that a bill to move the District of Colombia toward statehood has been introduced in the Senate. Buzzfeed says “the 51st state would be called New Columbia” and be granted full voting representation in the Senate and House. A group called DC Vote has launched a White House petition to call on President Obama for support. It is indeed time that D.C. voters become fully enfranchised as the 51st state. But it is also high time that the nation’s capital be moved from its quaint antiquarian, Eastern enclave to the center of our country. Louisville would be the perfect spot for a “new District of Columbia.”

In earliest days, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., were correctly viewed as the centers of America: they were the benign centers of countervailing regions, nominally North and South, with dividing overviews — industrialization and manufacturing in Hamilton’s North, provincial agrarianism in Jefferson’s South.

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My suggestion: a supercommittee of governors and former governors to discuss the issues of Western relevance and state sovereignty: Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, who compared California to Athens and Sparta in his inaugural address, Rick Perry of Texas who questions why a state with a surplus must support those in deep and growing debt, Sarah Palin, who singularly rose Tea Party issues of heartland America to relevance, Butch Otter of Idaho, Jodi Rell of Connecticut, who with Schwarzenegger challenged the feds on auto emissions, and Nikki Haley of South Carolina...

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: districtofcolumbia; palin; rickperry; sarahpalin; senate; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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What do you think of his ideas?
1 posted on 12/26/2012 10:28:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bunk. Move them back to Maryland where they belong. No way DC needs two Senators. As far as moving the capitol, move it to the hardest to reach point in Kansas


2 posted on 12/26/2012 10:33:53 PM PST by Figment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DC, as a state, would not be able to support itself. He’ll, it can’t even govern itself right now. Could you believe a Gov. Marion Barry?


3 posted on 12/26/2012 10:34:09 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Naw, move the capital to the notorious Rio Linda!


4 posted on 12/26/2012 10:36:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Criswell of Criswell Predicts said Wichita KS would be the new capitol of the US.

But then he also predicted the world would be destroyed several years back.


5 posted on 12/26/2012 10:39:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Put them on a Mountain top or the Desert floor.
Take away the fancy restaurants, put them on some old Military Base, raise their pay to say 2 Million, let them hire their own staffs - no law against nepotism spend what you want on staff, it comes out of your salary.
Couple of Spartan years they will have a chance to get some work done without a whole lot of distraction.
Provide them the same as Military.
Quarters, meals and security.
Put them ALL there, Pres, VP, Congress,Supreme Court, Cabinet etc etc etc

You don’t balance the budget; NO LIBERTY.


6 posted on 12/26/2012 10:39:09 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump for later read


7 posted on 12/26/2012 10:40:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: xrmusn

There’s already an “emergency” government headquarters underneath the Greenbriar hotel in West Virginia, built during the cold war, complete with living quarters, kitchens, etc. Or underneath Nellis AFB in the tunnels.


8 posted on 12/26/2012 10:44:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
iT’S ONLY 10x10 SO NO ONE SHOULD LIVE THERE.
9 posted on 12/26/2012 10:46:23 PM PST by Domangart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

underneath the Greenbriar hotel in West Virginia, built during the cold war,
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Too Posh.

Let them vacation there once some work gets done.

The committees should meet in the old silo control rooms.

Little 1 on 1 will keep- I mean may get their game sharp.


10 posted on 12/26/2012 10:57:23 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

underneath the Greenbriar hotel in West Virginia, built during the cold war,
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Too Posh.

Let them vacation there once some work gets done.

The committees should meet in the old silo control rooms.

Little 1 on 1 will keep- I mean may get their game sharp.


11 posted on 12/26/2012 10:57:38 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to the Constitution, "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

Since the area of DC is comprised entirely of land given by the state of Maryland for the purpose of creating a seat of government, granting statehood looks to be directly in violation of stated Constitutional language.

12 posted on 12/26/2012 10:57:47 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Museums would stay in DC. The departments no longer need to be close to the capitol. Move DOE to texas, Move Agriculture to Denver or Kansas City, Move Education to Ohio, Commerce to California, etc.

The senators and congressmen should meet and conduct business in various conventions centers around the USA. Would this cost a lot ? Yes, but the savings in getting these people out of DC would be 1,000 times greater.


13 posted on 12/26/2012 11:48:22 PM PST by staytrue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we should give them a separate country altogether.


14 posted on 12/27/2012 12:01:57 AM PST by FredZarguna (And don't even get me started on _If I Could Turn Back Time._)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
What do you think of his ideas?
HEY! ...We don't want the B@$t@rd; move 'em all back to Kenya...
Did we lose in a lottery / draw the wrong matchstick?

& yes...I live in Ky.

15 posted on 12/27/2012 12:43:32 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :-)
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To: FredZarguna
I think we should give them a separate country altogether.

Ding-ding-ding-ding! We have a winnuh!

My more-modest proposal was that we merely cordon D.C. off, "Escape from New York"-style. I have no doubt that, within a few years months, the conditions there would highly resemble those in the movie.

Regards,

16 posted on 12/27/2012 12:46:37 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Figment
Bunk. Move them back to Maryland where they belong.
No way DC needs two Senators.
agree...re-integrate the district back into the parent state...

17 posted on 12/27/2012 12:47:06 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And it would give the libs another two seats in the Senate and god knows how many Reps.

It will probably pass.

And we’ll get is some lecture about fairness and racism. :(


18 posted on 12/27/2012 12:51:12 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This, like all White House Petition ideas are asinine, useless and go nowhere except to gather info on those who start or sign them.

That being said, “if” DC became a state it would end up like Detroit in the first year of existence.


19 posted on 12/27/2012 2:20:30 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

West Virginia was created from Viginia without consent of its legislature.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 2:46:25 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is typical liberalism. Take something that is failing badly and rotting from within due to their policies, gerrymander it to suit their needs, then change the name and appearance of it.

Like the Drive-By-Media, they then wipe their hands, smile broadly and move on to the next thing to destroy, and gain two senators in perpetuity.

There was a specific reason Washington DC was not given representation, but they are too stupid and ignorant to understand.

Liberals are ideological locusts.


21 posted on 12/27/2012 3:30:41 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
"...granting statehood looks to be directly in violation of stated Constitutional language..."

As if that makes any difference anymore.

22 posted on 12/27/2012 3:32:22 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Figment

Bunk. Move them back to Maryland where they belong. No way DC needs two Senators. As far as moving the capitol, move it to the hardest to reach point in Kansas
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Agreed , let Maryland absorb D.C ,, they’re just as liberal ... I think Oklahoma night be a better place for the new capitol...


23 posted on 12/27/2012 4:08:59 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B.S. idea. If D.C. ever stops being the Capital, it should revert to being part of Maryland. It most certainly does not merit 2 senators. Additionally, once the whorish industry of free money roles out of town, so too will 90% of the population.

Perhaps it should be stipulated that the people who work in D.C. must live in D.C.


24 posted on 12/27/2012 4:09:53 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Louisville? I don’t want those SOBs here. Move them to Moscow or China where they fit in better.


25 posted on 12/27/2012 4:28:43 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Could you believe a Gov. Marion Barry?

It would happen. Those clowns don't need representation, they need supervision.

26 posted on 12/27/2012 4:56:36 AM PST by varmintman
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To: WKUHilltopper

I’m in Louisville and I don’t want them either. The Jefferson County School board is reason enough for property owners to flee Jefferson County. Moving Washington over here would be a death sentence.


27 posted on 12/27/2012 5:08:42 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Sgt_Schultze

...granting statehood looks to be directly in violation of stated Constitutional language.

&&&
True. But, in case you have not noticed: Dear Leader don’t need no steenkin’ Constitution.


28 posted on 12/27/2012 5:16:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: rlmorel

See my #28.


29 posted on 12/27/2012 5:19:52 AM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give DC to Maryland — from whence it came. As posters have already indicated, we don’t want two permanent permanent ultra-liberal, Communist-loving, America-hating Leftists.


30 posted on 12/27/2012 5:33:50 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you move the capital, there would be no reason for DC to exist, let alone merit statehood.


31 posted on 12/27/2012 6:01:39 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Louisville is a lovely city with very nice people. Why destroy it?

I suggest that Detroit be the next DC. After all, it woul benefit greatly from being given “something” to do and our government could use all those guns they have ordered to stay safe.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 6:11:57 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Make idiocy a felony and turn DC into a penal colony and loony bin. Put a large electrified fence around the district and let the inmates pretend to govern while we elect a real Congress and President that actually uphold the Constitution.

Louisville is nice, but we need a capital closer to the center of the nation, far away from lobbyists and east and left coast liberals and odious for the national media. How about western Nebraska?

33 posted on 12/27/2012 6:14:50 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: MachIV

“The Jefferson County School board is reason enough for property owners to flee Jefferson County.”

You got that right. Incompetent boobs.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 7:04:25 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Divide Washington, DC into two cities, one in Virginia and one in Maryland. Don’t start screwing around with the Congress!


35 posted on 12/27/2012 9:25:00 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9; 2ndDivisionVet; All
Don’t start screwing around with the Congress!
Yhea...rem: the XVII Amendment...
stripped the states of their power to limit sprawling federal
power....w/ WW, FDR, LBJ, RMN and 0'Buttcrack.

36 posted on 12/27/2012 9:37:06 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :-)
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To: Bigg Red

Yep. And not just him. There is an entire political party in this country that wants to rewrite it. They know they don’t have the votes to change it legally, so they are either ignoring it or using executive orders to go around it.

Shame on us for not holding them accountable. When behavior stops having consequences, there is no limitation on behavior.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 9:38:22 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think somebody has way too much time on his hands, to sit around and think of crapola like this. Too many people on the payroll who don’t have anything better or more productive to do.


38 posted on 12/27/2012 11:49:43 AM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: rlmorel

Shame on us for not holding them accountable. When behavior stops having consequences, there is no limitation on behavior.

&&&
You are so right.


39 posted on 12/27/2012 1:01:31 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; republicanbob1; jcwky; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D


40 posted on 12/28/2012 10:05:49 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Recon by Fire; Dscott_FR; Hawk_n_Ky; MrCraig; stoneface; hihozo; KJCarlock; freedombrigade; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D


41 posted on 12/28/2012 10:08:17 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Recon by Fire; Dscott_FR; Hawk_n_Ky; MrCraig; stoneface; hihozo; KJCarlock; freedombrigade; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D


42 posted on 12/28/2012 10:09:09 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: kentuckycatholiceye; KentuckyGOP; kimmie7; kiss_of_angel_20; kupolitiki; KY Dittohead; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D


43 posted on 12/28/2012 10:11:18 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keep it where it is. Change the people who run the place.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 10:11:45 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: bmwcyle

How about we just prohibit people from actually living IN DC. The District will have no permanent residents and thus all people will be representing somewhere OUTSIDE the beltway.

If anything we create congressional dorms where elected officials and TEMP staffers may live. However, they must have a permanent residence OUTSIDE the beltway.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 10:17:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

term limits FOR STAFFERS and bureacrats.

No more careers as middle and upper government workers.


46 posted on 12/28/2012 10:24:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Figment; 2ndDivisionVet; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Maryland is already almost impossible for Republicans, they can’t handle having DC too, there would be zero hope of ever electing a decent Governor. We can’t do that to them.

Of course they cannot be a state either, we cannot allow 2 more rat Senators.

Freeper Auho2orepublican has suggested the creation of a new state with DC and it’s liberal suburbs in both MD and VA, that would make those states more Republican to make up for making a new democrat state.

That is not being considered by anyone, unless it is DC must stay as it currently is, a Federal district with no voting rights in Congress. Too bad so sad, I don’t really care about a few hundred thousand democrats not having representation, as a Republican in Chicago I don’t have any either.

With all the votes they steal across the country it’s perfectly justifiable to deny them voting rights in DC. I would have strongly opposed giving them 3 electoral votes for President. God forbid that should ever be the difference in an election.


47 posted on 12/28/2012 9:54:12 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: longtermmemmory; fieldmarshaldj
term limits FOR STAFFERS and bureacrats. No more careers as middle and upper government workers.

Exactly right. Term limits for members of Congress would be of limited use as long as staffers and bureaucrats could remain as a power behind the throne.

48 posted on 12/28/2012 9:56:28 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: staytrue; 2ndDivisionVet

Your ideas are interesting.

The article’s idea however are just bizarre.


49 posted on 12/28/2012 10:01:33 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: leprechaun9

They already enacted half your idea. DC was once 100 square miles on both sides of the Potomac. They retroceded the VA side back to them in the 19th century (which is now Alexandria and Arlington).


50 posted on 12/29/2012 1:03:01 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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