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BREAKING: Illinois Bill to Ban All Modern Firearms
thetruthaboutguns ^ | January 1, 2013 | Robert Farago

Posted on 01/02/2013 6:48:04 PM PST by RC one

UPDATE: Two firearms-related bills—including an assault weapons (and more) ban, gun range regulations and a magazine registration scheme—are now headed for committee. Click here to read the texts.

Press release:

“The ISRA has learned from a credible source that Illinois Senate President John Cullerton [above] will introduce a so called ‘assault weapons’ ban on Wednesday when the legislature returns for its ‘lame duck’ session. Cullerton hopes to ramrod the bill through and get it to Governor Quinn for signature by Friday. If he is successful at doing so, nearly every gun you currently own will be banned and will be subject to confiscation by the Illinois State Police . . .

“Based on what we know about Cullerton’s bill, firearms that would be banned include all semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Pump action shotguns would be banned as well. This would be a very comprehensive ban that would include not only so-called ‘assault weapons’ but also such classics as M1 Garands and 1911-based pistols. There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering. You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State Police to avoid prosecution.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thetruthaboutguns.com ...


TOPICS: Illinois; Issues; State and Local
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; sandyhookpolitics; secondamendment
For a nominal service charge, I will arrange for safe storage of your firearms until you can get out of Illinois. You will have to transport them to Ohio.
1 posted on 01/02/2013 6:48:09 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

What is considered “modern”?

They had full auto machine pistols in 1896


2 posted on 01/02/2013 6:51:48 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC one
What we really need is a ban on assault-legislation.
3 posted on 01/02/2013 6:51:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: RC one
No worries here. I live in free Alabama and have already told my cousin the sheriff not to bother coming by for my guns, he cannot have them. He said he was not interested in getting anyone's guns. He knows it is impossible.

Actually, I believe gun registration will be tied to records of our purchases of guns in gun shops that the government has records of and the IRS. Having the IRS take our homes, property, bank accounts unless we turn them in. Something like that is how they will attack it.

4 posted on 01/02/2013 6:52:55 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What we really need is a ban on assault-legislation.

Touche!

5 posted on 01/02/2013 6:53:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RC one

Funny how democrats NEVER talk about this stuff BEFORE an election.

They lie and lie.

And the people vote for Santa Claus.

And then are STUNNED when the true democrats come out.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 6:54:33 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: RC one
It seems that such a Law in Illinois would clearly violate the Supreme Court findings in McDonald vs Chicago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._Chicago

7 posted on 01/02/2013 6:57:26 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: RC one
You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State

That is apparently intended to make sure that all guns are turned in, and if the bill is later overturned by a ruling that makes it unconstitutional, then the guns will have been removed from the public anyway. Then the police department will be able to claim that, the guns have already been destroyed.

To prevent that, the courts should issue a quick ruling stating that, the guns should be held in storage and labeled with eaach owner's identifying information, until judgment on the bill/law is made.
8 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:07 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: RC one

I am sure that Bill Ayers, Ruvrund Wrong, and the rest of the hoodies are quaking in their boots. /s


9 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:19 PM PST by AlexW
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To: BushMeister

The supreme court only matters when it sides with liberals though.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 7:00:04 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

Actually, this bill follows the plan liberals have used to win for decades.

They want a ‘5’ in gun control.

They go in asking for a ‘12’.

Soon the media, Rinos, and various other imbeciles start their blather about ‘compromise.’

Everyone gets into the act, and then next thing you know, many people are patting themselves on the back about how we only got stuck with a ‘5’ when they wanted a ‘12’. And “Oh by the way, send us more money.”

This pattern has happened so many times, I can almost predict it to the minute.

And what makes me even madder is that the dumba$$ Republicans never use the same tactic!


11 posted on 01/02/2013 7:02:54 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: adorno

Why should anyone turn in their guns?

I’m not about to obey illegal laws.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 7:07:45 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: RC one

When will these lunatics in IL stop passing unconstitutional gun laws and get continuously slapped down by SCOTUS?? Morons don’t seem to get the message.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:29 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: I cannot think of a name

We’re talking about Illinois here. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they get the 12. If I lived there, I would start looking for a way out and for a way to safely store my firearms collection while I secure optimal passage out o at least until this bullcrap blows over.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 7:10:56 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

Illinois would be wise to ban Democrats. Look what they’ve done to that state, and Chicago, over the years. Gun control and massive gun murder rates. Out of sight taxes and huge state deficits. And taxpayers have to pay to house former Democrat governors in the prisons.


15 posted on 01/02/2013 7:11:42 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: From The Deer Stand

The criminals are in charge of the prison in Illinois. No way they let themselves be voted out.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 7:14:58 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

Quinn, Madigan, and Cullerton should have the intellectual honesty to put legislation on the floor to abolish the Bill of Rights. ILL-ANNOY is already a third-world banana republic where politics is a family-run cottage industry - in both political parties. The line needs to be drawn. BTW, the buzzword of “assault weapon” is simply left-wing jibber-jabber. All the weapons I would have in my home are defensive weapons, not assault weapons, regardless of calibre, magazine size, or if they have scary-looking hand-grips. If a gang is attacking you, you can’t spend time reloading with a powder horn, wad, new flint, lead ball, bear grease, and ram-rod.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 7:28:35 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: chris37

A state law in violation of the 2nd Amendment would be void ab initio: “to be treated as invalid from the outset”.
Recall that following the weak Articles of Confederation those signing the new Constitution refused to do so unless ten amendments were added—express reservations of powers to the people and the states—due to the strong powers it gave to a central government.
They were anticipating the 21st century Democratic party. And remember, this is the Peoples Republic of Illinois. Their commissars are just feeling frisky ...

Now, the day that the SCOTUS guts the 2nd would be the beginning of the end of our Republic, although a good argument can be made that it began about four years ago.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 7:39:39 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: RC one

Boycott - While I don’t live in Ill. I am next door in Missouri and I called and told the dear senator that I would boycott all Ill. businesses, including restaurants, casino’s and no more Chicago weekends, if this bill was passed.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 7:50:16 PM PST by BallandPowder
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To: RC one

The pro-gun forces in the state should immediately contact a federal judge about an injunction as soon as the law is signed. If the judge is amenable to an injunction, then word should go out to Illinois legislators both that the bill is “D.O.A.” and that they *will* be punished for voting for it.

It might even be worth it to mount a recall drive against if not the instigators, then the weaker legislators who might actually lose or do not have deep pockets. This is also because a recall will hit them in the pocketbook.

This asks them the question: “Do you love gun control enough to lose your seat *and* personally cost you several thousand dollars?”


20 posted on 01/02/2013 7:57:11 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: BallandPowder

I’m in but I have to make an exception for Armalite.... and Rock River arms just in case.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 7:57:39 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: tumblindice

Well, tumblindice, considering the world that I live in, I have had to come to the following understanding.

The rights that God blessed me with are going to exist in me until I no longer exist.

I cannot speak for others, but I came into this world a free man, and I am going to leave it a free man.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 8:11:40 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: RC one

Good to know. I will be plundering Illinois when the SHTF.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 8:20:51 PM PST by gotribe
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To: chris37

Then we’re of one mind: Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
Check out the movie `Open Range’ if you want to see what two determined free men can do.
Or Nate Champion’s diary, here: http://www.hoofprintsofthepast.org/hisc.htm


24 posted on 01/02/2013 8:24:48 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Better idea, have federal marshals arrest all the people who vote in favor of the bill and charge them with conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution of the United States.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 8:37:46 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Better idea, have federal marshals arrest all the people who vote in favor of the bill and charge them with conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution of the United States.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 8:41:01 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

Sorry for the double post, but it’s worth saying twice.


27 posted on 01/02/2013 8:43:33 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: RetiredArmy

If that happens then I wouldn’t want to be an IRS employee of any kind. I’m just sayin’.


28 posted on 01/02/2013 9:35:37 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: RetiredArmy

If that happens then I wouldn’t want to be an IRS employee of any kind. I’m just sayin’.nu


29 posted on 01/02/2013 9:36:05 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: RetiredArmy

If that happens then I wouldn’t want to be an IRS employee of any kind. I’m just sayin’.nu


30 posted on 01/02/2013 9:36:19 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Damned fat fingers.


31 posted on 01/02/2013 9:37:29 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: RC one

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32850


32 posted on 01/02/2013 10:18:04 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: RC one

It passed committee, senate vote tomorrow. Want to close down public shooting ranges among other things. Listening to the discussion on the floor, not one of those voting know a gun from a broomstick!


33 posted on 01/02/2013 10:20:11 PM PST by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: I cannot think of a name
And what makes me even madder is that the dumba$$ Republicans never use the same tactic!

Instead of embracing the Constitutional side of Ron Paul's ideas and using that as a starting point to bargain with the Communists, the Republicans were busy flaying him in the public square.

Then they'd turn around and compromise with the Dems, AGAIN!.

If the idiots would watch Pawn Stars, they'd know you always start high and bargain down to where you wanted to be in the first place--or you just do not get half of what you wanted.

34 posted on 01/02/2013 10:27:57 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: reg45

There’s an interesting paradox, there.

Elected and appointed officials swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution, but there is no law against “Conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution of the United States”. Instead, the law is against “Conspiracy to overthrow the *government* of the United States.”

By the constitution, the only way to change the constitution is via both the national government and the states. The people are not involved in any way, other than by electing their state and federal government that can do this.

Yet the government also has a free hand in grossly and crudely misinterpreting the constitution, as long as the SCOTUS bends to the will of the POTUS and congress, which has happened too many times to count.

This means that by fully supporting the constitution, in any sane reading of it, can be called illegal if in doing so it requires some “Conspiracy to overthrow the *government* of the United States”, that is *violating* the constitution in defiance of their oath of office.


35 posted on 01/03/2013 4:53:06 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: chris37
Why should anyone turn in their guns?

The legislature and governor in Illinois are the ones you should be questioning.

If you ask me, then, go ahead and keep your guns. You have the right, and if Illinois tries to take them from you, bring them to court. ;)
36 posted on 01/03/2013 5:50:54 AM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: RC one

The Dems must be pissing themselves with such glee right now over these proposed gun bans.

Reading this article in full it appears that revolvers will be the only legal handguns in IL.

If I were unlucky enough to live there, I guess my Ruger LCR would be safe, but I would have to give up my other babies? (1911 being one)


37 posted on 01/03/2013 7:31:46 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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