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Minnesota: Ground Zero for Democrats’ Gun Confiscation Efforts?
Powerline ^ | February 3, 2013 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 02/03/2013 6:25:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Barack Obama is coming to Minneapolis tomorrow to talk guns, his first such foray since he called for increased gun control after the Sandy Hook massacre. Timed, presumably, to coincide with his appearance, Democrats in Minnesota’s legislature have introduced several draconian gun control measures. I wrote here about one of these statutes, which would ban, and provide for confiscation of, all average-sized magazines.

Liberals often ridicule gun owners’ fears that what the left really wants is to confiscate firearms, but in Minnesota the Democrats make no pretense: they are pushing confiscation legislation, unapologetically. H.F. 241 relates to “assault weapons.” It defines “assault weapons” in more or less the usual way; I haven’t compared it line by line to Dianne Feinstein’s federal legislation, but the definition is similar if not identical. “Assault weapons” include all semiautomatic rifles that have a pistol grip or a hole in the stock through which you can put your thumb; any “protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;” a folding or telescopic stock; or a barrel shroud. So, what is it about a hole in the stock, a “protruding grip,” a folding stock and so on that explains why such weapons should be singled out for banning by the state? Nothing. These features have nothing to do with lethality and bear no rational relation to any legitimate governmental purpose...

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Minnesota; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; minnesota; obama; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/03/2013 6:25:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Better CW-II to start there.

Lots of liberals.


2 posted on 02/03/2013 6:29:05 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats have a supermajority in Minnesota if I recall. Time to leave.


3 posted on 02/03/2013 6:29:12 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans will stand with you for your 2nd amendment rights, but, only YOU can tell your government to go to hell, come and get them on bullet at a time!

Never thought about liberal socialist Minnesota being the strike zone for the first assault on taking back our lawfully constituted government, but, hey, so be it!

Eight Deuce on the loose! Soon, very soon, we will see which bed wettin liberal will be the first to die for the cause!

4 posted on 02/03/2013 6:33:02 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: Viennacon

Many deer hunters, too...


5 posted on 02/03/2013 6:33:05 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Viennacon

They have a super majority in California too. And they’ve been eerily quiet.

I suspect what they have in the works here is going to make New York look like Switzerland.


6 posted on 02/03/2013 6:35:47 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yep, might be time to take a drive to NV and rent a Storage Locker.

I think I’ll open a Facility at State Line and give a new meaning to the TV Show Storage Wars.

Ah, life in the new Soviet Union of California, isn’t it grand?


7 posted on 02/03/2013 6:46:47 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

My observations are that storage facilities have video survellience and time logs, and require serious ID for an account.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 7:28:18 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I saw this on an other web site, from John D USN RVN.

“The First Amendment is there you see,
We can say when and what we please.
And the Second one is there,
To keep us all free.
Some want to take our rights away,
But it won’t happen on this day.
They will continue to try in another way,
Freedom will be a gun shot away.
They wish to take our guns from us,
And they are trying to make a fuss.
This old vet say’s no they can’t,
I took an oath and went to Nam.
Many have died to keep us free,
I will too, if need be.
In seventy one I passed the test,
And served with Americas best.
Fingerprinted and photo,
For owning a gun.
I don’t think so
You communist son.
MOLON LABE is the battle cry,
Gun from my hand you will have to pry.
The oath I took on another day,
Is still in force and you will pay!
A brave man I will never be,
Until you take my rights from me.
Liberal socialists I despise,
It’s hard to wait for their demise !!!”

John D USN RVN 71,72, 73, evac 75

9 posted on 02/03/2013 7:57:48 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Or move to Texas...


10 posted on 02/03/2013 8:02:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I’ll just dress in Black, put on some fake glasses and wear a big hat that says YUUUP on it.

Dave Hester can take the fall.


11 posted on 02/03/2013 8:07:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I own four rifles they want to ban.

I will not be giving them up.

Period.


12 posted on 02/03/2013 8:18:39 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Viennacon

No. They pass this here and it’s time to stand and fight.

The Courts get one shot to get this right... Then it’s our turn.


13 posted on 02/03/2013 8:20:44 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Viennacon

I left Minnesota a year and a half ago, returning to Texas. The state got to be too loony left, to the point of destroying business. Add to that the control freak nature of the Minneapolis libtards.
It is time for all good productive people to leave that state, and let it collapse.


14 posted on 02/03/2013 8:23:42 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking Wyoming. Texas is a tad too warm and humid for my taste, though I did send Ted Cruz a couple of bucks before the Election.

My Texas friends know him personally and tell me he is the real deal.

In California, he is causing some Senator Envy. Here we have two real Gun Grabbing Commie Witches, Barbara (dumb as a box of Barbara Boxers) Boxer and Diane Frankenfeinstein.


15 posted on 02/03/2013 8:26:11 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Da Coyote

“Better CW-II to start there.”

There is nothing Civil about this. This is about Revolution...Revolutionary War II...for the same reasons as the first...and for the reasons we have Amendment 2 to the Constitution.


16 posted on 02/03/2013 8:29:24 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
E-mail from the NRA;

Anti-Gun Democrats Again Working to Further Erode Second
Amendment Rights in Sacramento

AB 48, introduced by “F” rated Assemblyman Nancy Skinner, would require reporting of ammunition sales, licensing of ammunition dealers and other controls of ammunition, similar to firearms. This bill would also expand the definition of large capacity magazine to include any readily restorable or disassembled magazine that appears to hold more than ten rounds, and would require notification to local law enforcement if an individual buys anything more than a small amount of ammunition in a five-day period.

AB 169, introduced by “F” rated state Assemblyman Roger Dickinson, would prohibit members of the general public from transferring any handgun that is not on, or drops off of, the state’s roster of approved handgun, to anyone other than a family member or spouse.

AB 174, introduced by anti-gun Assemblyman Rob Bonita, would remove the grandfather clause on existing firearms that are currently illegal to purchase, but are legal to possess if they were owned prior to making the firearm illegal.

AB 187, also introduced by Assemblyman Bonita, would impose an additional tax on the sale of ammunition., These anti-gun bills are expected to be introduced soon:

SB 53, introduced by "F" rated state Senator Kevin de León, would require ammunition purchasers to obtain a permit and pay an annual fee (tax). This bill will also ban online and mail order sales of all ammunition, and require registration and thumbprinting for all ammunition purchases.

SB 47 , introduced by "F" rated state Senator Leland Yee, would expand the prohibitions on the sale and possession of “assault weapons” to include hundred of firearms currently lawful for sale in California.

SB 108 , also introduced by state Senator Yee, would require a firearm to be placed in a locked container or otherwise be disassembled each time the owner leaves his or her property.

AJR 5, introduced by "F" rated state Assemblyman Jimmy Gomez, would urge the President and Congress to support and pass Senator Feinstein’s proposed legislation prohibiting the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of assault weapons, and large-capacity magazines.

HR 1, introduced by "F" rated state Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, would be a standing rule of the Assembly, which would state, a person, except a peace officer acting within the scope of his or her employment, may not carry or possess a firearm on the floor of the Assembly during any session of the Assembly or in a committee hearing room during any meeting of a committee or subcommittee.

17 posted on 02/03/2013 8:30:21 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Kickass Conservative

No one hates heat and humidity more than I do, yet the Dallas area does a lot to mitigate it. Many parking lots have artificial shade, almost every building is air-conditioned, festivals and fairs are equipped with misters and/or portable a/c and lots of shade.


18 posted on 02/03/2013 8:33:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: EXCH54FE

>”A brave man I will never be,
Until you (TRY TO) take my rights from me”<

Suggested Update.

MOLON LABE


19 posted on 02/03/2013 8:39:37 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Hahahaha! He is such a putz.


20 posted on 02/03/2013 8:40:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Fred Hayek

Let’s not forget it’s also the state of vote-rigging scumbag Al Franken, and Jihadist Keith Ellison.


21 posted on 02/03/2013 8:41:54 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Kickass Conservative

I have a friendly spot across state lines. I dropped off what needed to be dropped off earlier this month.

We’re working on a permanent exit strategy now.


22 posted on 02/03/2013 8:42:25 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I’m certain that’s just the tip of the iceberg.


23 posted on 02/03/2013 8:48:05 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Core question: why are military style semi-autos called “assault weapons” in civilian hands, but otherwise identical full-auto guns called “personal defense weapons” for government agents (per recent requests for bids)? and why can’t I have a “personal defense weapon” for defending my family when any high level politician gets teams armed with them?


24 posted on 02/03/2013 8:48:27 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Dead Corpse

You stayin’ or leavin’ for a (relatively) free state?


25 posted on 02/03/2013 8:56:44 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; rcrngroup

Ping for later use!


26 posted on 02/03/2013 9:08:22 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some of my Wife’s Family are in Mississippi. I never go visit there after March or before October. Bugs, stifling heat and humidity make it a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t, or couldn’t live there.

I currently live near Laguna Beach. The difference in the Weather living here and pretty much everywhere else is beyond comprehension. It is such a shame that Liberalism has destroyed the once Golden State.

It will take a lot for us to leave, but it isn’t even on the radar at the moment. I am taking care of my 89 Year Old Blind Aunt who is on Dialysis and my nearly 90 Year Old Father.

Neither one of them will ever move away from here, so I have to tolerate whatever the California Commies come up with for the time being.


27 posted on 02/03/2013 9:15:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YUUUP!


28 posted on 02/03/2013 9:22:24 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Travis McGee

BTW, got “Enemies, Foreign & Domestic” on Kindle last night, I’m 25% into it. Some of the most amazing foresight I’ve ever seen in a work of fiction. Great work. Truly.


29 posted on 02/03/2013 9:30:51 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Travis McGee

Staying.

Still room for you and your camper etc!

Bring your “huntin tools”.

Should be fun!


30 posted on 02/03/2013 11:08:39 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Travis McGee
I don't have a choice right now. I'm looking at SD, but I may run out of time.

If time runs out... So be it. Born here, I'll die here.

Of course, that isn't Plan A. ;-)

31 posted on 02/04/2013 6:04:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Interesting times. So much for a quiet old age.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 6:55:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

If my children survive what may be headed our way... I’ll consider it an even trade.


33 posted on 02/04/2013 6:59:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I just made this one this AM.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 7:06:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dead Corpse

Amen, brother.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 7:38:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

A photo very like the B/W on the lower left is on the JPFO website with the legend “The First Million Mom March”.

A. Zelman had a way with words.


36 posted on 02/04/2013 8:38:52 AM PST by Peet (TurboTax: "So simple even a Secretary of the Treasury can use it!")
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To: Peet

Want to see a cheat-sheet of memes?

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Nazi AK-47s X4 pics
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Whats the problem with NGR? 1
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Shindler Best
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AngryWhiteMenistan
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37 posted on 02/04/2013 4:52:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is to inform everyone of the following Anti 2nd Amendment Bills that are going to be introduced in the Minnesota house. If any of these bills are passed they will ultimately affect every law abiding, gun owner in Minnesota.

If you own a semi-automatic firearm that can hold more than 7 rounds you will

1. Have to submit to another background check.
2. Register the firearm.
3. Safely and securely store the firearm.
4. Agree to allow the police to inspect the storage of the firearm.
5. Annually renew the registration, subject to the completion of a new background check.
6. Surrender any assault weapon you inherit or modify the weapon to render it inoperable.
HF 241 Assault weapons; crime established for manufacturing, transferring, or possessing assault weapons; existing assault weapon disposal or registration provided for; terms defined; data classified; language clarified; and penalties provided.
http://wdoc.house.leg.state.mn.us/leg/LS88/HF0241.0.pdf

To view bills 238-244
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/status_result.php?body=House&search=basic&session=0882013&location=House&bill=238-244&bill_type=bill&rev_number=&submit_bill=GO&keyword_type=all&keyword=&titleword=

For more information
https://www.change.org/petitions/mn-gun-owners-vote-no-on-hf241-mn-assault-weapons-ban

Who Represents me?
http://www.gis.leg.mn/OpenLayers/districts/

MN Governor Mark Dayton
http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/


38 posted on 02/05/2013 5:27:19 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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