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The Tea Party can survive Karl Rove's wrath, but being purged from Fox News could help kill it
The London Daily Telegraph ^ | February 7, 2013 | Dr. Tim Stanley

Posted on 02/07/2013 11:34:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

According to Politico, “a political colonoscopy is going on before our eyes.” Yuck. Karl Rove has set up a Super PAC to keep controversial conservatives from winning Republican primaries and the Senate leadership has established a “buddy system” to keep Tea Party congressmen in line (“buddy” as in “you should probably vote the way we tell you to, buddy…”). But the most important changes are taking place at Fox where heavyweights Sarah Palin and Dick Morris are out as contributors. A lot of this is post-election house clearing (CNN has moved staff around, too) but it also suggests that the GOP establishment is blaming the 2012 election loss on the Tea Party and the impolite Right.

Is its assessment correct? Yes and no. “Yes” in the sense that the outspoken weirdness of some Tea Party candidates shifted the balance of the Senate in the Democratic Party’s favour and “yes” in that they allowed Obama to play the culture war card so brilliantly against Mitt Romney. The margin of the 2012 election was decided by gender, race and age – and while the GOP did well with its old white guy base, Tea Party radicalism helped Obama to build a winning advantage among “everyone else”. And so moderates are now conspiring to silence the conservatives.

But, in defence of conservatives, the Republican Party did not actually run a Tea Party candidate in 2012. It ran a moderate from Massachusetts with a record of inventing Obamacare and supporting legalised abortion. Romney might have u-turned on all those positions, but the idea that the Tea Party hijacked the GOP nomination in 2012 is simply absurd...

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2014; elites; gop; karlrove; palin; republicans; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 02/07/2013 11:34:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The TEA Party does not need Fox News Channel, it didn’t before.


2 posted on 02/07/2013 11:37:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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This is not Rove acting on his own. No doubt there’s involvement from the other asshats in DC.


3 posted on 02/07/2013 11:43:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder how Karl Rove makes his money?


4 posted on 02/07/2013 11:46:49 PM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Doofer

If he only skims off 5% of the money he raises he’s up there with Mitt Romney and Donny Deutsch.


5 posted on 02/07/2013 11:48:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I understand the elections of 2006 and 2008 as people being tired of the Iraq war and tired of republicans who controlled the presidency for 8 years, the house of reps for 12 years and the senate for 5 years.

I understand the 2010 election as real anger about healthcare.

I don’t understand the 2012 results. In a state that romney carried by 10, Mourdock (a decent candidate) lost on some very benign comments. I don’t understand a decent candidate like Scott Brown losing to a liar and a left wing nut like Warren. I don’t understand Heitkamp beating Berg. I don’t understand how a center right, decent guy like Romney loses to Obama. I don’t get how Montana can reelect a democrat and our candidate was solid.

The only thing I do understand is Akin getting beat.


6 posted on 02/07/2013 11:52:42 PM PST by staytrue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tim Stanley

I doubt this little priss cares anything about the Tea Party, but I bet he knows all about the area of colonososcopies.

7 posted on 02/07/2013 11:56:35 PM PST by kcvl
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To: staytrue

“The only thing I do understand is Akin getting beat.”

I do too. rove and his honchos pulled ALL of his funding and screeched like cats in heat for him to give up the nomination. He was a true Conservative and did NOT deserve what they did to him.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 12:20:55 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with some of it. The balance of power in the senate was shifted toward the Democrats by a couple politically inept conservative candidates. However, the “Tea Party candidates” were not solely responsible for losing the senate. Fact is, several moderate nominees lost, too.

In regards to the culture war, I think the inept conservative candidates did indeed give Obama ammo that he used against Romney. I can’t say whether that resulted in a significant change in the election results.

The author is certainly correct in his assessment that Romney was not a conservative by a long shot. We ran a squishy moderate (again) and found that only so many people will drag themselves to the polls to vote for someone they don’t like (and don’t trust) to stop someone else they like even less.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 12:22:09 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: staytrue

I understand it perfectly... viote fraud in my opinion!

Most of the HOUSE seats remained the same, it was the Senate and President that was the upset.

It was too imprtant for Obama to lose his Presidenct and equally important he did not lose the Senate either.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 12:34:35 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: staytrue

VOTE.....sorry for the typo


11 posted on 02/08/2013 12:35:19 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: GeronL

We need our own conservative news network.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 12:38:00 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Doofer
I wonder how Karl Rove makes his money?

Well, Karl Rove's shennanigans worked very well to Obama's benefit in the 2010 and 2012 elections. There's several Trillion stolen dollars in that kitty.

13 posted on 02/08/2013 12:40:42 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

telegraph UK...competitor to Murdock (FOX). trying to lessen viewership
Tea Party got along fine without Rove and most republicans...

...this little snit is just wedging....


14 posted on 02/08/2013 12:44:44 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FOX had better watch out.. they are slowly becoming UNwatchable..
I used to believe much of their programming.. as principled..
But its beginning to look like platitudes.. and rhetoric..

I live in a mostly republican area.. and many are becoming “indies”.. or something else..
A/The Tea Party Caucus is spreading.. partys may becoming obsolete..
Many are noting the white stripe down ROVE’s back.. and the YELLOW on his tummy..


15 posted on 02/08/2013 12:50:37 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: neverbluffer
I agree and since the House remained the same and is controlled by Republicans guess who gets the blame—The Republican controlled house. I think there was massive vote fraud and it was manipulated to yield the desired effects.
16 posted on 02/08/2013 1:10:24 AM PST by funfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tea Party was not the reason for failure. Weak candidates and liberal agenda is loser recipe.

The latest pandering to Hispanics via Illegal Alien Amnesty means more years of losses.....extending to House seats.

As for Karl Rove......look for George Soros hanging arouind. Rove is going to kill the GOP via overspending on campaigns

Fox News needs to fire Rove before their ratings crater


17 posted on 02/08/2013 2:31:01 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: funfan

Dems won the popular vote in the house, and picked up a few seats.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 2:41:55 AM PST by J05h
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To: GeronL
"The TEA Party does not need Fox News Channel, it didn’t before"

Your comment is like saying we don't need money to win an election. That is wishful thinking, but completely false. Fox News is THE only news station that isn't in the tank for Democrats. Without Fox, there is no truth and no message.

Rove is an experienced player, and he is probably correct about certain issues. For example, conservatives have done a horrible job at reaching out to hispanics lately. Any mention of immigration reform and some of us get rabid. Meanwhile, Obama is seducing them with BS. Sweet BS is better than bitter indifference.

The real problem is that we need a candidate we can trust. Reagan was able to lead. He was Christian, all inclusive, and knew how to communicate. Don't forget Reagan gave millions of hispanics amnesty, while Obama is having them deported in greater numbers than ever.We have the real message of "hope", but Obama is the only one being heard. The media bias is a huge problem, and none of us here know how to solve that. May God help us.

19 posted on 02/08/2013 3:15:26 AM PST by mgist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Tea Party needs an “enemy at the gate” (Machiavelli) .. It also needs to pick a target (The Alinsky Tactics – Rule 13 – Pick the Target, Freeze it, polarize it...). Karl Rove is tailor made if the Tea Party gets smart. Listen to Levin’s podcast for Feb 4th...Rove is mostly “myth”... Has engineered more losers than winners...he is a perfect target because he is touted, but is nothing but hot air and his record, outlined in detail by Levin, proves it.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 3:53:45 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: meadsjn

My question was rhetorical/sarcastic in nature.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 3:56:15 AM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rove has successfully isolated himself. The left already hates him, now the right hates him. All that is left is the squishy middle, with candidates like McCain and Romney. How has that worked for us?

Our media (including Fox) is despicable. Obama was AWOL for Benghazi - imagine if that had been Bush? We need a grass roots media to get the message out and Fox's rehiring of Rove proves it is not it.

22 posted on 02/08/2013 4:53:55 AM PST by Neverforget01 (OMG-Obama Must Go)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I support the Tea Party. In the last year I don’t think I have watched more than 30 minutes of fox news, to many hand wringers. I find other ways of getting my news.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 5:46:09 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fox News fair and balanced?
Geraldo, Juan Williams, Kristol, Beckel, Kucinich, Scott Brown (coming). Bottom line, not worth watching anymore.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 5:48:24 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anybody who cares about the country should have untethered from cable TV long ago.
25 posted on 02/08/2013 6:01:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Rove is mostly “myth”... Has engineered more losers than winners...he is a perfect target because he is touted, but is nothing but hot air and his record, outlined in detail by Levin, proves it.

Plus, he gave us Bush!

Plus, he gave us Bush!

Plus, he gave us Bush!

26 posted on 02/08/2013 6:07:48 AM PST by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cable news is so last century.
Gave up on Fox years ago.
O’Reilly is a despicable and UNINFORMED human being. Hannity is an UNINFORMED bumbling doofus.

Did you all read the bit about Obama’s use of modern media and Data mining/Analytics to get out the vote?

The world has turned. Advertising on Old TV is not the answer. Joe Scarborough’s “Conservatism” is not the answer.

Individual activists (Patriots!) having connections with 100 people who will vote is the answer. Imagaine if everyone you knew, and everyone they knew cast their votes in the last election . . . now THAT would be a different world.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 6:35:09 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: mgist

“while Obama is having them deported in greater numbers than ever”

If you’re not careful, Barry will have you believe he’s curing cancer too.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:14 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Grandma Conservative

I agree 100%.

Is is disgraceful we have been excluded from all news media.

What is the problem? There is plenty of money, but we are excluded.

We need to start raising a ruckus.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 6:38:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Conservatives haven’t demanded any better. Plus, we need much better organization and involvement in party politics. Other than the uptick in participation in the 2010 elections, conservatives just won’t put in the time and work needed to really change things.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 6:45:17 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: MestaMachine

I’m 81, I go back as an active Republican campaigner to before Nixon and then to Goldwater/Reagan .While I have a website I’ve been using FR’s as my blog. I retired after Reagan won and moved out of state but before that I ran successful campaigns for state and local legislative offices in the1960s to 1983. . In the Reagan campaigns assisted the state chair in developing campaign pieces for Reagan’s successful bid both in the primary and the general elections where I’ve been told by the late John L Waner* some of my stuff is in the Reagan library. The state was Illinois, the city Chicago. If my stuff is there or not I don’t know for certain but that’s what John told me.* Regional HUD director under Nixon

First of all guys like Rove and others ignored the mechanics of basic campaigning. They allowed the M.ainline S.ocialist M.edia drive the issues and are still doing so they learned nothing from their disasters.I find it inexcuseable for Rove to allow his boss GWB get continuosly trashed without responding.

These people I call them GOPES because it rhymes with dopes right now are falling into the same trap. Limbaugh and Levin, God bless them ...realize that what Limbaugh calls the LIV’s (low intelligence voters) actually believe that Obama is offering the proverbial “olive branch” to Republicans when actually he is proceeding on his path to complete socialism. AND THEY CAN’T CALL HIM A LIAR .

This administration came up with a policy on energy which had driven up the cost on everything. It was on the tongue of every black, white. yellow,and brown skined person living in the US....IT WENT UNTOUCHED in the 2012 campaign....WORSE YET IT IS STILL GOING UNCHALLANGED

Now the GOPES are buying into the “demographic” argument offered by the MSM. Here you have an issue staring at them straight in the face affecting every man,woman,and child of every skin color and you can’t bring it up and they talk about “demographics” being pushed by the socialist media .

They should be decrying the philosphy of “demographics” by stating they’re Americans first not Afro-Americans. not Hispanic-Americans and not-Asian-Americans, or “White”-Americans. The counter charge should be these are socialist tactics neing pushed by the hypenated Demo-coms. Democrats in socialist/fascist clothing. Let alone not mention the booing of God’s name during their convention then belittle those Republicans who express a religious conviction even to the point of suggesting that those that do shouldn’t run for political office.

Rove and his RINOS are wrong for the Republicans .


31 posted on 02/08/2013 7:06:56 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname ......Ex Chi" mechanic")
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To: staytrue
The only thing I do understand is Akin getting beat.

IIRC, Akin wasn't the "Tea Party" candidate.

32 posted on 02/08/2013 7:12:17 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; kristinn; Jim Robinson; onyx; Nachum; IBD editorial writer; blam; ...

The Liberal Agenda Media loves nothing more than to demonize debate on viewpoints that are different from theirs.

The maturity level of a Liberal is that of a teenager, Ben Stein calls it “Juvenile.”

Middle-of-the-road guys like me that believe that there should be NO Federal borrowing, “selling” of US Bonds, or anything else that causes the damned Federal Government to live beyond its means, are wasting our time reasoning with Liberals.

While the Liberals couch all of our reasoned discussions as “wedge” issues that will splinter the GOP, we need to continue to focus on where WE as the GOP has gone onto the wrong track.

Let us consider that the GOP is a football team. One of the Assistant Coaches is Karl Rove. Karl’s strong suit is the Buckley Rule: “Support your team mates if : 1) They are athletes that you like, and 2.) If you think they can win the next game.”

[Note: the real Buckley Rule is: “ Support the most Conservative candidate, who can be elected. In the last election the GOP followed the Buckley Rule to the letter and chose Socialist, Father of Romney”care,” never-attack-your-opponent, wussy, Mitter-or-Mutter Romney.]

Back to GOP Football. Ass. Coach Rove picks out his choices for the O-Line, and to a man they agree that there is no sense playing any game this season because there is no way that they can win the Football Game. The Opposition has just to many bad things to say and print in their news shows and newspapers, well -— - - - it is just to hard!

The sponsors, (you and me), of this GOP Team are tired of the self-defeating Buckley Rule, and want the rule and Ass. Coach Rove sent back to the locker room where the trainers can work some sense in Rove.

Quarterback Boehner does not like some players, and has already sent 3 of them to warm up the bench. Q. Boehner is driven to tears fearing that Middle Line Backer Reid knows all of Boehner’s passing routes. Reid’s team does not play fair! Boo-hoo!

Earlier this year in the Sequester Bowl, Q. Boehner clutched up and called to many time outs that his team had negative yardage due to delay of game penalties.

Quarterback Boehner is still convinced that the upcoming Debt Ceiling Superbowl cannot be won due to statements of smug victory in the Puppet Liberal Agenda Media by Coach Obama and Middle Line Backer Reid.

Quarterback Boehner is considering polling the solid RINOs on his team to find out whether or not they can beat Reid and Obama.

Right now it looks like the RINO team members are leaning toward postponing the Debt Ceiling Superbowl until Reid and Obama start to say nice things about them.

Coach Obama’s outgoing Waterboy Timmy Geihtner, has assured his replacement that RINOs on a team make it easy to manipulate them.

Geihtner claims that all you have to do is hold a Puppet Press Conference and just say “NO!”


33 posted on 02/08/2013 8:19:13 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: All

For those who want a less humorous slant on the Let’s not even try to win Buckley Rule:

The RINO-Way has failed to deliver.

It is sunset time for the RINOs, and as RINOs like Rove have shown, they will still snort and bellow long after sunset.

Just as Big Government is not part of the solution, but IS the problem, so too are the goals of the RINOs for those of us who want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The present sorry state of RINO Leaders such as the Esteemed Sobber of The House John “Doormat” Boehner is encapsulated in the Congressional RINO Mantra: “ We have to find a Bipartisan Compromise that will pass both Houses, and that Obama will sign.”

This Congressional RINO Mantra is directly taken from The Buckley Rule which states: “Support the most Conservative Candidate that can win.”

IOW, the assumption of what is good or bad is not a factor for the Country or the GOP. The assumption is that one can discern what will be accepted by others is something that can be known before it is tried.

Thus, Obama or Reid can immobilize the RINO dominated US House of Representatives by just saying “NO” at a press conference to any idea that a RINO might propose.

The result is that only 3 people are needed to manage the US Federal Government: Senate, House and White House Leaders. Currently that is Reid, Boehner and Jarrett, respectively.

Hence, the RINOs have insured that the US Federal Government will not be good for America.

The RINOs have made it very easy for the Democrats to grind America to a halt.

By rejecting the RINOs’ Buckley Rule, the GOP will open the Party to Candidates that are good for the Party.

By rejecting the Congressional RINO Mantra, the US Congress will be open to political action that will override the current 3 leader ‘stall, delay and deny’ political nightmare.

It is pointless to blame the Communists and Socialists in the US Federal Government, because they are just doing what Communists and Socialists do best: regulate, Control and DESTROY!

Between now and the National Election in 2014, the only obstacle that needs to be overcome is the RINO control of the Republican Party.

GAME ON RINO Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove, GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proudly fly your Gadsden flag, and attend TO TAKE OVER your local RINO Doormat Party Meetings!

_____________

Ponder this:

IMHO , the worst “Goal” assumption is contained in the “Buckley Rule:” Support the most Conservative Candidate WHO CAN WIN.

The Gop-Elite IN the Party chose Dole, McCain and Romney. All lost, and all were not clear about what it was that they were trying to CONSERVE.

If one is going to play Basketball, then there had better be a lot of air in the ball, AND NO LIBERAL PATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The enlarged letters are for effect: People IN the Party are usually wrong about how people OUTSIDE the Party will vote.

Dole, McCain and Romney were supported by the powers that be in the GOP because they COULD win! You bet! When pigs fly!

_______

The second point is the “Me Too” mentality of the GOP Elites who want to compete for the Democrats pool of Big Government voters.

Hence, the GOP has moved so far to the left, that the bulk of the GOP is far to the left of JFK Democrats of 50 + years ago.

Without clear distinctions, the GOP will continue to be the fat kid “Big Tent” wanna-be Democrat that nobody will play with in the Schoolyard playground called The US Federal Government.
__________________

The last point is the “Inertia of Stupidity.”

Ignorance is when one has not learned something.

Stupidity is when one is mentally unable to learn something.

The GOP Elite try to lose big every 4 years - - - maybe they have learned that losing is a lot easier than winning?

If so, then WE are stupid for not learning that the Sun has already set on the RINO GOP Elite, the Buckley Rule and the RINO Congressional Mantra.

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Graewoulf to jimbo123; All
The RINO-Way has failed to deliver.

It is sunset time for the RINOs, and as RINOs like Rove have shown, they will still snort and bellow long after sunset.

Just as Big Government is not part of the solution, but IS the problem, so too are the goals of the RINOs for those of us who want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The present sorry state of RINO Leaders such as the Esteemed Sobber of The House John “Doormat” Boehner is encapsulated in the Congressional RINO Mantra: “ We have to find a Bipartisan Compromise that will pass both Houses, and that Obama will sign.”

This Congressional RINO Mantra is directly taken from The Buckley Rule which states: “Support the most Conservative Candidate that can win.”

IOW, the assumption of what is good or bad is not a factor for the Country or the GOP. The assumption is that one can discern what will be accepted by others is something that can be known before it is tried.

Thus, Obama or Reid can immobilize the RINO dominated US House of Representatives by just saying “NO” at a press conference to any idea that a RINO might propose.

The result is that only 3 people are needed to manage the US Federal Government: Senate, House and White House Leaders. Currently that is Reid, Boehner and Jarrett, respectively.

Hence, the RINOs have insured that the US Federal Government will not be good for America.

The RINOs have made it very easy for the Democrats to grind America to a halt.

By rejecting the RINOs’ Buckley Rule, the GOP will open the Party to Candidates that are good for the Party.

By rejecting the Congressional RINO Mantra, the US Congress will be open to political action that will override the current 3 leader ‘stall, delay and deny’ political nightmare.

It is pointless to blame the Communists and Socialists in the US Federal Government, because they are just doing what Communists and Socialists do best: regulate, Control and DESTROY!

Between now and the National Election in 2014, the only obstacle that needs to be overcome is the RINO control of the Republican Party.

GAME ON RINO Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove, GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proudly fly your Gadsden flag, and attend TO TAKE OVER your local RINO Doormat Party Meetings!

_____________

Ponder this:

IMHO , the worst “Goal” assumption is contained in the “Buckley Rule:” Support the most Conservative Candidate WHO CAN WIN.

The Gop-Elite IN the Party chose Dole, McCain and Romney. All lost, and all were not clear about what it was that they were trying to CONSERVE.

If one is going to play Basketball, then there had better be a lot of air in the ball, AND NO LIBERAL PATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The enlarged letters are for effect: People IN the Party are usually wrong about how people OUTSIDE the Party will vote.

Dole, McCain and Romney were supported by the powers that be in the GOP because they COULD win! You bet! When pigs fly!

_______

The second point is the “Me Too” mentality of the GOP Elites who want to compete for the Democrats pool of Big Government voters.

Hence, the GOP has moved so far to the left, that the bulk of the GOP is far to the left of JFK Democrats of 50 + years ago.

Without clear distinctions, the GOP will continue to be the fat kid “Big Tent” wanna-be Democrat that nobody will play with in the Schoolyard playground called The US Federal Government.
__________________

The last point is the “Inertia of Stupidity.”

Ignorance is when one has not learned something.

Stupidity is when one is mentally unable to learn something.

The GOP Elite try to lose big every 4 years - - - maybe they have learned that losing is a lot easier than winning?

If so, then WE are stupid for not learning that the Sun has already set on the RINO GOP Elite, the Buckley Rule and the RINO Congressional Mantra.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 8:27:18 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

This national crisis of the economy, healthcare, religious liberty, illegal immigration, military hollowing-out, fall of the dollar, joblessness, etc., can not be tackled, re-routed, reversed, even slowed, and certainly not stopped until Americans take back not the damn government, but the public schools, the NEA, and the union, all of which for 50 years at least, have been marked out as the pathway for Marxist-communist influence and take-over.

The job is done. Not a single conservative player has noticed that fact. Not one. No agenda of theirs ever addresses the local public schools, and universities.

This is why and how Obamacare has been allowed to arise and will so entangle itself in our system that it will emerge as an imitation of our public school system, acceptable and catastrophic at the same time.

Our future is so crystal clear and futile that we can take bets on it, if we don’t take back our schools and start soon.
Tag line still stands.


35 posted on 02/08/2013 9:35:11 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Graewoulf
BONE-HEAD Boehner has GOT TO GO!
He's UNACCEPTABLE !
36 posted on 02/08/2013 9:58:52 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the original source:
Fox need a conservative competitor, right now.
Rush, it's time you bought a T.V. Channel, and let Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and others of your choosing run it.
But don't use Bill O'Reilly, because that RINO would destroy it.
37 posted on 02/08/2013 10:41:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Tea Party protestors came out to protest socialized medicine which violates the division of powers and other violations of the constitution since the patriot act became law.

The media spokespeople boiled that down to ‘cut social security.” As a result, the Tea Party people did not hear themselves in what was being said in their name.

Re-organizing at the grass roots with a clearer and popular constitutional mission, is what we need. Constitutional freedom unites patriots in both parties against the limo liberals in both parties.

That’s my take on the status of the Tea Party here.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 11:14:00 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Yosemitest

Karl Rove’s ideas have failed, white board and all.

Karl has dug his Buckley Rule defeatist hole, and only knows how to dig it deeper.

It is time for us to reject the Buckley Rule and Karl Rove.


39 posted on 02/08/2013 1:47:41 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Macoozie

Plus massive voter fraud.


40 posted on 02/08/2013 2:32:58 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Graewoulf
I agree.

We will never unify under "Establishment Republicans" .
"Establishment Republicans" have more in common with the Democrats, than they do with Conservatives.
The weak candidates are "Establishment Republicans", weak on national security, amnesty for illegals, abortion, and government spending.
"Establishment Republicans" scream "COMPROMISE".
And people who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.
These "Establishment Republicans" are being weeded out, one by one, and slowly but surely, the TEA Party is taking over.

Someone once said [We're] 'Not victims of "the Establishment." '
I disagree.
I ask you again: It WAS Mitt Romney, leader of the "Establishment Republicans"
and it WAS the "Establishment Republicans" who funded all those negative ads against Conservatives.

So conservatives, the BASE of the Republican Party, WERE ' victims of "the Establishment." '

Take a good long look at where "Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS take us.



In 2013, Rove and the Super-PAC American Crossroads created the Conservative Victory Project for the purpose of supporting "electable" conservative RINO candidates.

I SAY AGAIN: Take a good long look(above) at where "Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS take us.

LOSER KARL ROVE HAS GOT TO GO !
41 posted on 02/08/2013 2:52:56 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: hosepipe

I quit watching FOX after the election this year. Megan Kelly was just too darn giddy with excitement about obama’s win. Read recently where FOX’s ratings were at a 12 year low.


42 posted on 02/08/2013 3:31:52 PM PST by Josa
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To: Fu-fu2

Double PING: # 33 and 34. Enjoy!


43 posted on 02/08/2013 7:41:25 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly what and who IS the “Tea Party?” There are dozens of organizations that cropped up in the Fall of ‘09 using the term “Tea Party” yet I’m not sure which are authentic. Who are the leaders of the Tea Party?

To me the Tea Party is more loosely connected individual citizens who opposed the outrageous growth of government, specifically Obamacare. Yet there’s no real structure or organization that demonstrates a viable political party (i.e., one that actually runs candidates for office vs. a movement affecting the outcomes of one party’s primaries).

I went to the 9/12/09 March on DC, to the “Kill Bill” march on the Capitol, and to the Beck/Palin affair at the Lincoln Memorial. I’ve yet to be asked to join any “Tea Party” nor have I been polled by anyone claiming to be the “Tea Party” about which candidate(s) I might support. WHO is endorsing candidates as the “Tea Party?” How does Rove know who to oppose? It’s all way too nebulous and rudderless IMO.


44 posted on 02/08/2013 8:17:45 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Graewoulf

Hmmmm .... thanks for sharing your insights, dear Graewoulf!


45 posted on 02/08/2013 8:58:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Graewoulf

Thanks Graewoulf.


46 posted on 02/09/2013 8:16:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: mosesdapoet
"This administration came up with a policy on energy which had driven up the cost on everything. It was on the tongue of every black, white. yellow,and brown skined person living in the US....IT WENT UNTOUCHED in the 2012 campaign....WORSE YET IT IS STILL GOING UNCHALLANGED"

Gingrich was the only canidate who made a big deal about it,and look what happened to him. Rove and the GOPES destroyed him by calling him a right wing radical.

47 posted on 02/09/2013 12:06:51 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: Alamo-Girl

You are welcome!

Rove is starting to play again the broken record of Left-Wing Republicans, and so it is time to call him out.

The Romney election was the last straw for those of us middle of the road Republicans that want the following:

NO National Debt, a balanced Federal Budget every year;
NO Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and Obama”care;”
NO aid to Dependent Children, Federal Disabilities for non-Federal workers;
NO Federal Aid to Schools;
NO department of Education, National Labor Relations Board;
NO Federal Housing Authority, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae;
NO Federal loans to Private Businesses;
NO Progressive Personal Income Tax System;
and NO Income tax on Interest and dividends.

This should decrease the size of the damned US Federal Government by about 40 % in 10 years.

To achieve this wonderful goal in 10 years would require an across the board cut of 40 % in year to year spending to ALL of the above Federal Welfare Programs EVERY YEAR for consecutive 10 Years.

If our sorry Federal Politicians do not do this soon, the World Bond Market will do it for them VERY soon.


48 posted on 02/09/2013 7:53:30 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Alamo-Girl

You are welcome!

Rove is starting to play again the broken record of Left-Wing Republicans, and so it is time to call him out.

The Romney election was the last straw for those of us middle of the road Republicans that want the following:

NO National Debt, a balanced Federal Budget every year;
NO Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare and Obama”care;”
NO aid to Dependent Children, Federal Disabilities for non-Federal workers;
NO Federal Aid to Schools;
NO department of Education, National Labor Relations Board;
NO Federal Housing Authority, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae;
NO Federal loans to Private Businesses;
NO Progressive Personal Income Tax System;
and NO Income tax on Interest and dividends.

This should decrease the size of the damned US Federal Government by about 40 % in 10 years.

To achieve this wonderful goal in 10 years would require an across the board cut of 40 % in year to year spending to ALL of the above Federal Welfare Programs EVERY YEAR for consecutive 10 Years.

If our sorry Federal Politicians do not do this soon, the World Bond Market will do it for them VERY soon.


49 posted on 02/09/2013 7:53:30 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear Graewoulf!


50 posted on 02/09/2013 9:19:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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