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3 reasons Marco Rubio isn't going to be the GOP nominee in 2016
Yahoo! News / The Week ^ | February 11, 2013 | Taegan Goddard

Posted on 02/11/2013 6:18:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Although he fills an obvious gap for his party, the odds are stacked against him

With Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) giving the Republican response to President Obama's State of the Union address, many are asking if he's the answer to his party's electoral woes.

Time magazine even put him on the cover and asked if he's the Republican savior.

But there are three big reasons why it's unlikely the Florida senator is on a fast track to the presidency in 2016.

1. Republicans almost always pick the next guy in line.

Ever since the untested Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.) lost in a historic landslide in 1964, the Republican Party has nearly always picked a nominee who has previously run for national office. The one exception is George W. Bush — and he was the son of a former president.

2. Rubio would face a very tough field.

The 2012 Republican primaries included many candidates who had no shot at ever winning the nomination. The 2016 field is likely to be packed with plausible candidates. Seasoned politicians like Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Paul Ryan are already lined up and mulling possible bids....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Florida; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; gop; hispanics; marcorubio; palin; paulryan; republicans; rubio2016; sarahpalin
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Based on Taegan's "logic" either former Governor Sarah Palin or Rep. Paul Ryan will be the next Republican nominee. No one else except former Vice President Dick Cheney really fits the bill. Or did I miss something?
1 posted on 02/11/2013 6:18:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will be the one that the MSM dictates


2 posted on 02/11/2013 6:20:40 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a natural born citizen per Article II of the Constitution.


3 posted on 02/11/2013 6:20:52 PM PST by thecodont
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of those two would likely tease and sashay about and miss the deadline.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 6:23:23 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: thecodont

exactly. which is why rubio supported romney
and romney supported obama.

IT IS TIME TO ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 6:24:16 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The biggest reason....the msmwhores have 3 years to destroy him


6 posted on 02/11/2013 6:24:37 PM PST by wny
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To: thecodont

((eye roll))


7 posted on 02/11/2013 6:24:54 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Amnesty, Amnesty, Amnesty.

Plus doing nothing about the deficit, lack of strong support for the 2nd Amendment, etc.

8 posted on 02/11/2013 6:25:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio is a very possible nominee. He’ll beat Christie as much more appealing to the base. The only possible contenders besides Rubio are: Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Kasich (who’s blowing it right now with the Medicare implementation), or Jindal. Jeb Bush is a possibility, but I doubt Rubio and Bush would both get in the race. They go way back. If Jeb is running, Rubio would probably defer and endorse. I feel like Rubio would out do most of those guys as a much stronger and more dynamic person.

I can’t think of any other likely nominees, outside of that list. I like all of the above on the list (although do not want any more Bushes in the White House).


9 posted on 02/11/2013 6:26:33 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a young guy. Could use a decade of seasoning.

Even RR wouldn’t have been a good President at 41.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 6:26:58 PM PST by DManA
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To: thecodont

That hasn’t mattered in years, if you catch my drift.


11 posted on 02/11/2013 6:27:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Three reasons:

1. Mama Bush
2. Papa Bush
3. Brother Bush

12 posted on 02/11/2013 6:27:53 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio’s pro-amnesty stance makes him the best D candidate.

He is dead to me.


13 posted on 02/11/2013 6:28:15 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: TADSLOS

If Papa Bush is alive by 2016, I’ll eat my hat.


14 posted on 02/11/2013 6:29:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: humblegunner

I have a higher opinion of Paul than you do.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 6:30:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people need to stick 2016 up their lofty butts.

And, we need to concentrate on winning CONSERVATIVE landslides in 2014.


16 posted on 02/11/2013 6:31:22 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Rubio runs he has a very good chance at winning the nomination. There is going to be such enormous pressure on the party to do better with Hispanics that Marco starts out with a huge advantage. Unlike 2012, there will likely be a very serious, competitive field of GOP primary candidates (Rubio, Jindal, Christie, Ryan, etc). Like 2012, Sarah Palin will not be one of those candidates.


17 posted on 02/11/2013 6:31:37 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

agreed, he;ll bring out millions of hispanics and the left will be all in a tizzy.

I’ll bide my time if I support him right now though


18 posted on 02/11/2013 6:35:18 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: thecodont

This statement has already been refuted... many times on FR.


19 posted on 02/11/2013 6:36:53 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: Longbow1969

Look at the author’s three reasons. Who, except Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin fits his first one?


20 posted on 02/11/2013 6:37:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: HawkHogan; thecodont

So his parents were not Cuban nationals when he was born in Florida? Not that that matters anymore, except for Republicans.


21 posted on 02/11/2013 6:39:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Longbow1969

I like Sarah Palin. I think she was railroaded by the despicable media. However, she has absolutely no chance of winning a national election. This election proved that a strong portion of this country gets their political news from the Daily Show, Colbert Report, SNL, etc. Sarah Palin will be forever associated with Tiny Fey’s characterization. I don’t agree with the characterization, but that’s just the state of the nation.

I’m not a fan of all of Marco’s policies. However, he’s excellent at articulating conservative principles and the American dream. I won’t have a problem with supporting him, although he’s not my first choice.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 6:40:35 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much as I wish it weren’t true, the possibility of a GOPer being elected to the White House is essentially nil. This is a D+6 national electorate that will likely expand to D+8 by 2016. The GOP’s strength is in statehouses.


23 posted on 02/11/2013 6:43:19 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rubio is not the Posterity of We the People.

-PJ

24 posted on 02/11/2013 6:44:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll respect Mark Levin’s opinion regarding Rubio being eligible.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 6:46:23 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: thecodont

You honestly think half the ‘conservatives’, much less full boat Republicans care? Look at any Rubio thread on FR.

A good number of posters are falling over the guy and just ignoring his amnesty BS and having a conniption fit if anyone points out his gross failures in adherence to the party platform. It will be Rubio, Christie or Jeb Bush.


26 posted on 02/11/2013 6:47:55 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: HawkHogan
This statement has already been refuted... many times on FR.

No it hasn't.

It may have been debated many time, like you just did, but I'd hardly call that refuted.

Besides, with a sign-up date only 4 months old, you couldn't have been a part of that "many times" debate unless you were here under a previous screen-name.

-PJ

27 posted on 02/11/2013 6:50:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neither Rubio nor “seasoned politicians like Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Paul Ryan” will ever be receiving my vote. If the GOPe rigs things so that a conservative can’t be the nominee, and they foist their RINOs upon us, I will be writing in Palin/West once again.


28 posted on 02/11/2013 6:50:40 PM PST by Waryone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio would be just as well to have RINO tattoed on his forehead.


29 posted on 02/11/2013 6:52:33 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
It will be Rubio, Christie or Jeb Bush.

I know nothing of Bush, other than he's unelectable due to his name.

Christie is a gun grabbing Democrat in all but name and I would never in my life vote for him (and I voted for Romney). Rubio isn't much better.

I'm left thinking Rand Paul is the best option we have. Or some Governor that the MSM has completely ignored.

Suffice it to say, the future of the Republic is not looking good.

30 posted on 02/11/2013 6:54:10 PM PST by RugerMini14
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To: HawkHogan
I’ll respect Mark Levin’s opinion regarding Rubio being eligible.

That's fine. Levin just argued the meaning of the word "the" to the DC Circuit Court regarding recess appointments. Let me know when he takes up the NBC issue in the courts -- I have some Preamble questions for him.

Until then, it's another opinion, not a refutation.

-PJ

31 posted on 02/11/2013 6:54:48 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: thecodont
Not a natural born citizen per Article II of the Constitution.

You'd better believe that the Dems would notice this and make a fuss over it in the MSM. Even though they've said it's an outdated, obsolete, misinterpreted provision of the Constitution when Obama's natural born bona-fides were questioned, they would jump all over Rubio's or Jindal's. As we all should (but didn't for Obama).

32 posted on 02/11/2013 6:56:26 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could care less about who they stick in as nominee unless it is a Sarah Palin or someone of that nature. Rubio should stay in the Senate and stay put. As for the rest of them, who cares. They will dangle Jeb Bush and all the Rino’s will jump. Heard a political figure today on radio from Florida, Lou Fry and he said they will put up Jeb and Rubio. Makes me want to puke quite frankly. Also answers the reason why I dropped out of the REC of my county. So over this crap.


33 posted on 02/11/2013 6:57:15 PM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Well, I’d reckon a good portion of the discussion regarding Rubio’s status has occurred since November.

It’s a non-issue. There’s not a court in the land that’s questioning Rubio’s status at a natural born citizen. It’s a non-sequitor used by Rubio detractors.


34 posted on 02/11/2013 6:57:32 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: Diogenesis
IT IS TIME TO ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION.

Yes.

Who would you like to see run in 2016?

35 posted on 02/11/2013 7:00:27 PM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: HawkHogan
It's actually been going since 2010 when he ran for the Senate.

And it's been going on since 2008 regarding Bobby Jindal.

-PJ

36 posted on 02/11/2013 7:00:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ilgipper
I can’t think of any other likely nominees, outside of that list.

Mike Pence? Ted Cruz?

37 posted on 02/11/2013 7:00:35 PM PST by Salvey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You missed. Jeb Bush. I’m already seeing the writing on the wall.


38 posted on 02/11/2013 7:08:55 PM PST by WVNan
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To: thecodont
Flap doodle.
39 posted on 02/11/2013 7:11:12 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His logic stinks ... there’s no “next in line” available at this point. Odds are now in favor of Christie / Rubio ticket...Christie hugely popular (pun intended) and Rubio is in for seasoning...this is your new Republican Party, same as the old Republican Party...


40 posted on 02/11/2013 7:12:23 PM PST by martiangohome
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yes, and I’ve seen and heard these discussions before all over.

Regardless, there’s no way any court questions Rubio’s status as a natural born citizen. If he’s the candidate, he’s the candidate. Like I said, Rubio’s not my first choice. I completely disagree with his amnesty plan, and he’s been mightily silent on the 2nd Amendment.


41 posted on 02/11/2013 7:13:27 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: RugerMini14

Serious question that a lot of people really need to wrap their head around and ponder the relevance of...

Since when is being unelectable a hurdle to the GOP nomination?


42 posted on 02/11/2013 7:20:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is only one reason! Dr. Ben Carson


43 posted on 02/11/2013 7:29:12 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: WVNan

When did Jeb Bush run for national office?


44 posted on 02/11/2013 7:35:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
3 reasons Marco Rubio isn't going to be the GOP nominee in 2016

1. It's
2. Jeb's
3. turn

45 posted on 02/11/2013 7:38:42 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Salvey
"Mike Pence? Ted Cruz?"

Those two are conservatives. I would gladly vote for either of them or both of them.

46 posted on 02/11/2013 7:55:05 PM PST by Waryone
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To: HawkHogan

I’m curious: Has Rubio’s natural born status ever been before a court? If you have a reference, I’d love to see it.

I would want to know why the issue has arisen, if it has, since he has never run for President.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 7:56:24 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...did I miss something?

Nope.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 7:57:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: thecodont

He isn’t a naturalized citizen. The Constitution only envisioned three types and one type are all deceased at this point.


49 posted on 02/11/2013 8:02:39 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, but they wanted him last time. He has waited through two elections now. It’s his turn (in the elite minds)


50 posted on 02/11/2013 8:04:40 PM PST by WVNan
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