Skip to comments.Republican Leaders Worry Their Party Could Divide in Two
Posted on 02/14/2013 5:54:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Inside the cozy enclaves of GOP bonhomiehunkered at the tables of see-and-be-seen Washington restaurantsRepublican leaders are sourly predicting a party-busting independent presidential bid by a tea-party challenger, like Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., in 2016.
To them, the GOP apocalypse looms larger than most realize. Dueling State of the Union rebuttals and Karl Roves assault on right-wing candidates are mere symptoms of an existential crisis that is giving the sturdiest Republicans heartburn.
And yet, the heart of the matter extends beyond the GOP. My conversations this week with two Republican officials, along with a Democratic strategist's timely memo, reflect a growing school of thought in Washington that social change and a disillusioned electorate threaten the entire two-party system.
Seem like a lot to swallow? Allow me to describe my last few days at work.
Between bites of an $18.95 SteakBurger at the Palm, one of Washingtons premier expense-account restaurants, Republican consultant Scott Reed summed up the state of politics and his beloved GOP. The party, he told me, is irrelevant.
He cited the familiar litany of problems: demographic change, poor candidates, ideological rigidity, deplorable approval ratings, and a rift between social and economic conservatives.
Its leading to some type of crash and reassessment and change, said Reed, who ran Bob Doles 1996 presidential campaign and remains an influential lobbyist and operative. It cant continue on this path.(continued)
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Not to mention the pro-defense Republicans and the “burn it all down then” Republicans.
I sure hope it does. I refuse to donate a single dollar to them anymore and have SPAMmed every email I get from them. Until the Tea Party takes over or gives us a pleasant alternative, I’m done with the Stupid-a$$ Party.
A little slow on the uptake there, Scott. Try and keep up.
We didn’t start the war.
Could? How about did already?
with obama and the left massivley overreaching there would be good potential to pick up lots of seats in 2014
the republican party is deliberately destroying itself with conservative voters. The idiots.
Direct Tea Party donations ONLY!!
Don’t want it to happen?
It easy. Throw us some bones. We’re tired of being asked “Where else will you go?”
The answer is “Dunno. But I’d rather be right than President.”
Like your idea. Empty envelope . . . but ya' gotta' tell 'em why your not sending them any bucks!
Still trying to figure out what possible good a “lobbyist and operative” conributes to our society...
But, hopefully his expense reimbursement permits him to decently tip his Palms server getting paid minimum wage.
I think that is a great idea. Make sure that you tell them that your normal donation to the RNC went to the Tea Party this year.
Hey Karl... You cannot divide by Zero.
The ideological rigidity, IMHO, continually plays out by the establishment Republicans stacking the deck against conservative candidates and treating conservative, anti-Democrat/Leftist supporters like red-headed step-children, even after repeatedly having their annointed candidates getting their a$$e$ handed to them by the Rats in election after election. Screw them. They refuse to learn.
Oh, I tell ‘em alright!! I also write “Tea Party candidates ONLY!!” after my $0...:(
No. We did not start the political genocide of Conservatives. The Judenrat GOP leadership did, at the behest of the Ruling Class MarxoFascists in whom they marvel and wish to be liked by.
The GOP are nothing but the Judenrat for the regime. They hope the MarxoFascist crocodile will give them the crumbs from the table, because those idiots somehow think the crocodile is not even going to bother eating them in the end.
The GOP are at war with Conservatives as surely as the MarxoFascists are.
So I will war on them in return and put my weight behind TEA Party Conservatives only. Anyone else needs to be seen and treated the same way we see Democrats/Marxists/Liberals; as enemies of the Constitution.
What if Karl gave a party, and nobody came?
That seems to be the only the Conservatives are going to get anything again The Rovians will always attract the mbig money because they, like the Democrats, blackmail the big business sources. If you send us a lot of money we won’t pass legislation that hurts you and we will push legislation that helps you and/or hurts your competition. It is not so much stated as implied by the situation and the known character of the pols. There is no point in giving money to politicians who are not intending to hurt you or specifically help you.
They brought it on themselves. I will never again vote for an establishment Republican. I will vote for a third party candidate, if necessary, just to stick it to the Karl Rove’s of the world. The GOP thinks it can argue and reason its way to victory. It will never happen. The RINO establishment is so paralyzed with fear of losing the power it has now, that it will never fight to save the nation. As a result, they will almost certainly lose control of the House in 2014. They have no guts, no juice and no ability to lead.
Although you might imagine it would be good to have the Whigs back, they blew it big time back in the 1850s, and then again in the 1930s.
The Whig faction cannot properly govern without the support of a Conservative faction, and BTW, it's our turn again for the Presidency! Bring on someone charismatic, charming and intelligent. Another graysuited drone just won't cut it.
If you send them one dollar it costs them more than that dollar to process it and send you a thank you letter. I like that little dig for the Democrat party.
The DemocRATS are living in the Stalin/Lenin Zone and they aren’t having any problems raising money. The morons running the GOP believe that they have to be middle of da road “moderates” to get people to like them. Morons. The only thing in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead skunks.
The parasite class will never get this. We have to throw them out, and launch a hostile takeover.
I agree with all that you state. HOWEVER-
Ron Fournier is the enemy and stirring up ****.
I agree with all that you state. HOWEVER-
Ron Fournier is the enemy and stirring up ****.
Yep. No more Doles. Tell the RNC-e to recruit a Reagan type candidate that can communicate well and presto ... bit tent Republican Party re-emerges with grass-roots support. It’s not that complicated once you have a qualified candidate.
Though I am an optimist, after the last election I am ,at least temporarily,cynical. Either way ,I truly believe that the largest majority of Republicans (”conservatives”), would switch their allegiance promptly if it meant more power and money for them and theirs. The same is true of the other side.
I no longer consider myself a Republican. I am a conservative.
I will not vote for Karl Rove’s next presidential pick.
I live in the district next to Boehner’s and I fervently hope they throw him out in 2014.
Sarah Palin or bust.
Waiting for her, Dr. Ben Carson and others to step forward.
I like articles from http://www.nationalreview.com/
“The Republican Party is irrelevant as far as I’m concerned. I left it after the debacle in November and registered as a Conservative. The GOP is full of a lot of flaccid appeasers who have long abandoned the core values of the party.”
Ditto. Gone after working for Reagan’s election and convention and enduring poor candidates ever since. I realized that not a single POTUS candidate I ever voted for in a primary won.
Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.
The bottom line is the demographics. There are a lot of good, well-documented articles on the topic ona website which is prohibited here at Free Republic, it’s called VDARE.COM, I invite readers to check it out for themselves.
Let it split and the strong portion, the Tea Party portion, will survive. The GOP is like lukewarm milk. I’s disgusting. The RINO portion can not survive. Let’s get this over with and get Conservatism going again.
Hard to understand these people. They see what they are doing by fighting the Tea Party Consrvative movement and yet they continue to want to turn the Republican party into the left leaning moderates.
It isn’t the Tea party that is destroying the republican party it is the RINO’s who are democrats in drag.
Something to keep in mind.
We can only hope! But I must say that these people ‘inside-the-loop’ are definitely slow learners.
Our national parties, and their state affiliates, engage in a battle to pick up followers from the factions. Sometimes a large faction will shift from the Demos to the Reps, or vice versa. More frequently small factions do that without being noticed.
There is a fringe around the poles ~ virtually depopulated. it is not a middle filled with undecided voters.
It's like a business partner who comes in every day and knee's you in the balls and yet criticizes you when you express your desire to leave stating that the rival company will gain the upper hand.
The Great Whig Party has Spoken!
They don't want Conservatives in their party and we don't want to stay.
Not after the way the Treat Sarah Palin(stupid!), Michele Bachmann(crazy!), etc etc etc etc
Ya ever notice how much Millard looked like Alec Baldwin?
Scott Reed a leader of the GOP? He's a joke.
I half way expected to see the local volunteer fire department out there hosing them down.
Ever think about growing a pair of balls?? I don't remember ever seeing them split!
What a bunch of tools.
Well if we are going to split, let us do so right away.
Give us time to re-establish a base of real support, and start to organize for a take-over election.
Stay or go. But let us make up our minds quickly please.