Posted on 02/17/2013 5:49:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The 2016 Elections is off to a early start. Some people feel that the building block for the Tea Party Independent Forum within the Independent Voting Floor will separate the power of the Republican Party. I am sorry but this is not true. The Foundation of this forum is to bring in new officials as well as a Independent Tea Party Officials. As States move to file for Independence and to form their own Government, this is by all means a mistake, The Separation of the States will break the Foundation Of The Constitution. Then the United Nations will be in a far better position to apply their New World Order Laws.
It would seem, that most people are concerned about the economy and other issues, people are in dis-trust of Officials in Government from both parties. There are some of us who feel it is time for the Tea Party to take its right-full place in office under the Independent Forum.
I am sorry but most people feel its time to vote out those who did not do their job and vote in new people with no political connections. This political battle for a seat to control a power that is not real, its the Voice Of the People that is the power and the posting of, Under The Cover Of Winter Storm Nemo, this posting does not hold all the information you seek, but I can tell you this that a data search for Political Official who hide their money investments over-seas in Pharmaceutical Narcotics. You may say so what....then why hide the money....?
No my friends this will not separate nothing at all because as time goes forward we are being lost in a connection of United We Stand...
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Palin/Carson 2016.
Carson/Palin 2016.
I don’t care.
Let’s just get some sane Americans back in there.
Yes.

I pray she has a good security detail!
Works for me, I’ll kick in a few bux towards that $2M target of yours!

She's Electable Jim!

Suck It GOP.
With all due respect folks, I’m not ready to jump on the Carson bandwagon yet.
Obama won’t allow a fair legal non rigged election to occur, and personally I don’t think we the people want to be useless votes all over again because that is exactly what became of our votes.
It would be far better to announce a different style of election, something bot the Dems or GOP cannot trainwreck.
My friend could help her there:
http://reynoldsprotection.com/
I bought into the notion that working ‘within’ the GOP to push tea-party, conservative Constitutional reform was the way to go. I’m no longer tethered to that notion. The GOP-E, besides being so ossified and corrupt, is just too entrenched. It constantly sets up a scenario where the “tea-party conservative” is in a lose-lose situation, being stabbed in the front by the malicious Dem-media-complex, while the GOP-E colludes with them to stab you in the back. It’s a recipe for constant defeat. Better to confront both enemies head-on.
And the way things are now, judging from all the cavings and capitulations to Obama on just about every issue from fiscal cliffs to amnesty, we’ve already become a de-facto “one-party rule” country without a voice of opposition. It’s like there is no “opposition party” whatsoever anymore, watching the the Boehner/Rove GOP.
Also consider Louie Ghomert, a no-nonsense Christian Conservative with honest-to-goodness Texas values.
Am i the only one who would love to see a Palin V. Clinton election in 2016? Take the damn gender issue off the table once and for all.
“Im not ready to jump on the Carson bandwagon yet.”
I hear ya - I got burned too many times during the primaries.
I wonder how many times conservatives will lose before they learn that they must walk together to win.
No.
Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
IOW, he doesn’t meet the NBC requirement of the Constitution and is not eligible for POTUS. VP maybe.
Good thinking. Some Freepers get easily carried away. Remember when they were thinking that Chris Christie was the One? How about the time Scott Brown was the One?
One must wait until the person is thoroughly vetted before thinking he or she is a viable candidate. Just plain common sense.
Also remember when Colin Powell was “the one” with an 80% approval record from GOPers.
A great speech does not a great president make. I’ll stick with my preferred choice.
She is, however, just not presidential material.
Sarah (who was under tremendous media attack at the time) chose to resign from the governorship of Alaska in 2009.
Again, I really, really like Sarah, but she was not able to maintain in a difficult situation; and, the media attacks on a GOP president have been, and would be, much worse.
George Dubya Bush managed to maintain his dignity (and courageously so) during eight years of media siege that was worse than the (admittedly awful) Palin attacks.
For a GOPer, the WH kitchen gets horribly hot, and if one can't take it, then one shouldn't consider it.
Again, I like Sarah. I do. She is just not pres material.
(Donning asbestos undies.)
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Remind me: Did President Bush have to defend himself against dozens of frivilous ethics complaints and lawsuits out of his own pocket while he was either president or governor of Texas?
Weren’t both his parents American citizens at the time of his birth? I understand that neither Gov. Jindal or Sen. Rubio can say that.
Palin wil never be POTUS . Nor should she be .
Please explain to us why that should be? Because she is female, perhaps?
Dubya had continuous and continual media and (for example, code pink) assaults. IIRC, wierdos camped out near his Texas home. There was the Plame fiction, the late-night "comedy" routines that would make up quotes so Dubya would sound stupid, the implied (again, IIRC) movie script bad things, and much, much more. Yet Dubya remained undaunted, he persevered to prosecute the war on terror, and kept us safe.
Dubya never, ever would have resigned. He was, and remains, courageous under (metaphorical) fire.
Sarah was so unfairly treated (as you rightly point out.)
I wish that Sarah would have remained courageous, and not have should have resigned.
That she did resign her governorship, however, disqualifies her from the position of Commander in Chief. I wish I could put this in a more positive light.
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I think you just made seaplaner’s point. Think those attacks will end once she declares? They’ll get worse.
I like Sarah Palin too, just can’t see the stars aligning for her. My wife a Republican from birth dislikes her because the wife calls her a quitter and media opportunist.
There are lot’s of hurdles placed in Sarah’s Presidential quest, many self constructed, I believe Sarah is much, much more of an effective leader from where she is.
She has the power to inspire folks in a good way. Perhaps one of her protege’s will be able to finish what she started, like a relay race uses the fastest for last.
Apples and Oranges
Neither you or I know what would’ve happened had President Bush been open to lawsuits or ethics complaints with no assistance from the government to help him defend himself or if something else had happened. Also, President Bush and his advisors, such as Karl Rove, gave us Mr. Obama or no one did.
Good for you, Mike! Hope you raise 2 million and more!
By the way, I went to sarahpac dot com and did not see your sarahpacdonate dot com donation site linked from there. As soon as they correct it and put a linky for your donation site there, I will chip in what I can. I hope she is series about running.
He would not have resigned. I agree that Sarah was viciously mistreated and maligned. That said, if she were truly presidential material, she would have somehow managed to stand tall during the (horribly unfair) attacks on her governorship.
Also, President Bush and his advisors, such as Karl Rove, gave us Mr. Obama or no one did.
I can't go this far, either. The (Dem controlled) Congress had their way with our fine Country in 2007-8; and they do not get sufficient negative credit for the financial ruin that followed.
Media attacks are one thing. Having to personally cover the costs of Court cases based on frivilous ethics violations is something entirely different. And it wasn't just the cases of Sarah having to come up with the money to defend herself. She saw that staying in office would bankrupt the members of her Administration who were also being charged with ethic violations, simply because they worked for HER. She knew that the issues on which she ran for office, for which she was elected, would still be supported by her Lt. Governor, so she resigned the office and turned it over to him. The people of Alaska were not left in the lurch when she left office.
George W. Bush had to endure ugly things being said about him. He didn't have to PERSONALLY pay for court cases to defend himself against the media attacks. THAT is the difference between him and Sarah.
I've got to agree. When I watched her acceptance speech in 2008, I thought I was watching the next Ronald Reagan. I was wrong. I was watching the next Ross Perot.
Like Perot, Palin is a patriot, and good person with good ideas. Like Perot, Palin appeals to the average working American.
Unfortunately, like Perot, Palin folded under pressure. Yes, I know all the reasons why, and from a family viewpoint maybe Perot and Palin were both right. But yet they folded. Neither person showed the toughness necessary under assault.
I didn’t know there was a way to build a site to do that. Do you have any info. on that? Fred Thompson had a widget I could insert that directed people back to his site to donate, is that what you mean? I was able to raise about $40,000 during the short time he was in the running and his campaign knew it came from my efforts.
Suzi, I hear ya!
The inner strength of a GOP pres candidate has to be stratospheric. Sarah was unfairly targeted, and did nothing wrong.
That said, for us to consider her as a CIC candidate, she would, and should have found it within herself to stand tall.
I Like Sarah! I will, in the nicest way, however, oppose any notion that she is CIC material.
She is not. (Not a negative, just not a stratospheric positive.)
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“I like Her ,but,,,”
“She’s Just Not,,,”
Stand up for Her Message and bury these Chicago Thugs in their own garbage.
Stand like You got a Pair.
This winey crap is disgusting .
“I pray she has a good security detail”!
The best there ever was!
No, Sarah did not fold under pressure and no, you do not know the reasons she did not run in ‘12. There is a right time and a wrong time and that wasn’t the right time. It had nothing to do with family, btw. It has everything to do with winning an election and having the ability to effect the changes once the win is secured.
The GOP-e was the major stumbling block. Now they’ve been defeated, humiliated and marginalized. Now is the Sarah Palin/Tea Party’s moment in time, the coming ‘14 elections and ‘16 presidential election. Now is the time for us to come together and make it happen.
His father, in 1957 during the Cuban Revolution, was a Cuban immigrant to the United States. His mother, an American, was reared in Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent. Cruz’s family returned to the U.S. when he was four years old.
I should add to my post that Palin would be my ideal Tea Party choice, due not just to her solid ideological credentials, but her incorruptable history. Virtually all politicians tend to be beholden to varied interests from Party machines to unions to corporate donors to special interest groups and the whole plethora. It’s such a rarity to find one like Palin who isn’t, and who even had a record of fighting corruption within her own party, resigning from a high-paying, high-power commission over it. The only things Palin showed herself beholden to were the Constitution first and the people second. She’s the epitome of the kind of reformer/leader the country desperately needs.
But the likelihood of that happening admittedly looks a bit dim to me. The country has become far too degenerate, far too corrupt, with a deep-seated moral bankrupcy and a culture akin to an open sewer. Hard to see Palin making headway in this decaying, degraded environment. She’s more a reflection of the country and culture as it used to be, when it both asprired to and displayed greatness. I’d still support her, and a Tea Party agenda, of course. Big time. At very least as one last gesture, one last effort, against what appears to be an unsalvageable country in its waning end-days.
I think somebody just needs a big hug.
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Please tell me who you’re looking at for 2016, and don’t “I haven’t really thought about it” or “time will tell” and all that. You’re rejecting Gov. Palin out-of-hand, so you must have someone in mind.
NBC then?
We need to see who does what for the next several years.
As an example, there were those who thought Chris Christie might have been a front runner for 2016; however, we all know better now that we've gotten to know him.
There is no super rush to endorse at this early juncture. The true conservatives (among the active governors, senators, and members of congress) will rise to the top. One hopes.
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My comment about Palin referred to her decision to resign as Governor in 2009, not to her decision not to run for President in 2012.
And let me emphasize this: I do not question her decision to resign as Governor. She put family, and family finances, ahead of her office. Nothing wrong with that.
But to save this poor country, we need another Reagan, or perhaps an American Churchill. Palin is a fine person, and she is a real asset to the conservative cause. But she is simply not a Churchill.
IF.......you could get Palin TO run, I don’t think there is ANY chance in the world that you’d EVER get her to take the VP slot again; and I would not blame her.
I don't believe in denouncing and discouraging folks who might want to run. Even if they do not win a lot of primaries, their ideas can get out there for folks to mull over.
Precisely why we need to term limit the ba$tard$ out, insist that congress be subject to all the laws they pass and eliminate all congressional perks except those needed to perform their jobs.
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