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Noemie Emery: Why canít conservative candidates win Republican presidential primaries?
Hot Air ^ | March 21, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/21/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An unsparing piece keying off the same Rick Perry soundbite at CPAC that inspired this post. Perry said that it’s unfair to blame conservatism for the GOP’s losses in 2008 and 2012 because, after all, our nominees weren’t conservative. Emery’s response: Then why did Republican primary voters vote for them instead of for a solid conservative like, say, Rick Perry?

Her answer? Between Reagan’s generation and the current crop of Rubio, Scott Walker, etc, there simply haven’t been many good conservative candidates.

Instead, against establishment types who were national figures, the conservative movement flung preachers and pundits (Pat Robertson, Alan Keyes and Pat Buchanan), has-beens and losers (New Gingrich and Rick Santorum), and others still worse (Herman Cain, for example), who on second thought lost even conservative primary voters.

To deny all this reality, some movement types invented a conspiracy theory. The Establishment met at the Country Club on alternate Tuesdays to undermine all the upcoming Reagans (who sadly enough never existed). This is untrue, and it keeps these movement types from facing the real problem — the failure of the conservative movement to find and develop successors to Reagan over the space of the past 20 years…...

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; newt; reagan; republicans; rubio; santorum; scottwalker
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1 posted on 03/21/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Her answer? Between Reagan’s generation and the current crop of Rubio, Scott Walker, etc, there simply haven’t been many good conservative candidates.

That is not true. There there simply haven’t been many good conservative VOTERS.........

2 posted on 03/21/2013 1:53:46 PM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the matter of Cruz' NBC can be established, we all get behind him. If not, then Sarah.

If neither throws their hat in the ring we go with the B candidates - Rand Paul or Scott Walker.

If either of them lose early we get behind C candidate Rubio.

If it's Jeb or Christie we vote 3rd party.

3 posted on 03/21/2013 1:57:57 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any good candidates that have come along have been shot down with ‘friendly fire’ by asshats like Allahpundit, that’s why.


4 posted on 03/21/2013 1:58:14 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Why can’t conservative candidates win Republican presidential primaries?” We haven’t had any(conservatives) in the last 6 Election Cycles.


5 posted on 03/21/2013 1:58:52 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Circular. Firing. Squad.


6 posted on 03/21/2013 2:01:48 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unbelievable.

The establishment plainly and openly conspires against conservatives. The establishment wanted Romney and stuck with him start to finish. They encouraged multiple conservative entries to split up the overwhelming conservative base. The hosted too many debates hosted often by anti conservative journalists.

In 96 Keyes was handcuffed shoved into a police car and driven to the edge of Atlanta ! Can you imagine if that was done to Obama.

We live in a hatefully anti conservatives establishment that condones the burning of palins church and all manner of incivility.

The articles argument is typical anti conservative propaganda.


7 posted on 03/21/2013 2:05:05 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Sirius Lee

Rand Paul: I’m pro-life, but exceptions should be handled case by case
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Rand Paul: Pathway To Citizenship Is Needed, E-Verify Is Not
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Top labor union stands with Rand Paul on immigration (SEIU)
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8 posted on 03/21/2013 2:05:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because there are 5 of them they split the vote and by the time there is 1 left it is too late.


9 posted on 03/21/2013 2:07:31 PM PDT by pas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Find a conservative candidate with Reagan's stature, political skill, resume, and record and he (or she) could get elected.
10 posted on 03/21/2013 2:10:20 PM PDT by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why can’t conservative candidates win Republican presidential primaries?

Because the Republican primaries always have four or five fairly conservative candidates and one or two RINOs who will win a fair number of votes. And a few more assorted candidates with no prayer of winning a significant number of votes.

The conservative candidates split the votes in early primaries and the RINO(s) win the most votes in several states, several of which will be winner-take-all. Going into Super Tuesday a RINO will be leading and have a good shot at taking a good lead after ST.

Since there are never runoffs in primary elections, A RINO who can get around 30% - 35% of the vote through mid-February will take the lead and likely win. And there'll be three or four conservatives with 10% to 20% of the vote each.

That scenario give us McCain and Romney and it can give us Jeb Bush or Crispie Creme. Blue states pick our nominees as things have been the past few elections.

11 posted on 03/21/2013 2:10:24 PM PDT by Will88
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To: lonestar67

Name the conservative candidate who could actually have won the election.


12 posted on 03/21/2013 2:12:20 PM PDT by x
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No one like that exists, to my knowledge. Gov. Sarah Palin is in the mold, but we all know what they did to her. I wouldn’t blame her if she never ran for office again.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 2:14:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason is that we have been horn swaggled...hoodwinked into believing the tiger changed his strips after Reagan. The RINO’s just took the name Conservative....and took to their inner liberal big gooberment freak.


14 posted on 03/21/2013 2:14:41 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only Reagan was a conservative.

-His having been a Democrat can be explained.

-His having been the only US president to have headed a union, can be forgiven.

-His having signed an Abortion bill into law- He later regretted it , all is well.

-His having been the only US president to sign an amnesty bill- Its OK, he was easily tricked.

-His having started the destruction of the family with his no fault divorce- he admitted it was wrong.

When he rises form the dead we shall win.

I read where Paul Ryan likes the same belt buckles as Joe Biden, so he must be crushed!


15 posted on 03/21/2013 2:17:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real reason is that pampered, out-of-touch, pathological constituents provide the most money, by far, for PACs and politicians. Look around. See the political/regulator class. What do they produce? Nothing of value to Americans who would manufacture needed products if allowed to do so.

They do, in fact, prevent needed production, illegally (by the law of our land) spy on citizens, gossip, falsely accuse, rob real producers, steal children (to sell to pathological, false parents) and generally threaten the populace, keeping national morale generally low. Thus, the economic slide toward default, which is the remedy.

Show us honest candidates in favor of cutting public education (rules out those with families in public ed.)—men against environmentalism, animal-worship and other pathologies, men against fat federal funding to state and local governments, men in favor of a large, productive manufacturing base.

Or the political regulator folks made their bed. Let ‘em lay in it for as long as it takes (default, checkmate). They can huff, puff, whine and threaten most other Americans all they like.


16 posted on 03/21/2013 2:22:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Noemie Emery: Why can’t conservative candidates win Republican presidential primaries?

Because the GOP-e dumped $millions$ into TV smear ads against conservative candidates in all the big electoral states and ACORN/SEIU committed massive voter fraud in those same states. This is why Rove was so sure his Sear suit model won on Fox news, but Fox knew the massive voter fraud would win over.

17 posted on 03/21/2013 2:22:51 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Sirius Lee

Hey Sirius Lee,

Given the list of policy positions that Paul is either just flat wrong on or slipping on, from a conservative point of view, I’m not so sure he is a ‘B’ level candidate, more like a ‘C’ and if he keeps going in the direction he is going, he will end up in the ‘Vote Third Party’ category.


18 posted on 03/21/2013 2:31:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: x

In order:

Perry
Gingrich
Santorum
Cain
Palin

Off course not Just the rnc is opposed to conservatives. Our intellectual culture hates conservatives. But pandering does not lessen this.


19 posted on 03/21/2013 2:34:24 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

See the little trick they play? It sounds as if the argument is there hasn’t been a Reagan since Reagan. But that’s not the bar. What they’re actually saying is there hasn’t been as good a conservative candidate as the actual Pub candidates since Reagan. All you’d have to be is as good as the Bushes, Dole, McCain, and Romney. Quite the lower bar.

The Establishment strategy if tge past generation is transparent. To them it’s always ‘64, not ‘80. It’s as if Reagan never happened, and we’re perpetually in danger of being Goldwatered. They flip the usual process upsidedown. Whereas traditionally you play to the base in the primaries and spread out for the general, Pub primaries these days are about finding the most milquetoast candidate possible, then throwing chum to the party faithful with their relatively conservative running mate (Ryan, Palin, Kemp, though notably not Cheney). It’s also based stupidly on whose “turn” it is.

Penultimately, the goal is to produce an MSM-proof candidate, which always fails. There is no such creature on earth as a Pub that gets good PR from the MSM, unless it’s in preference to other Pubs. The ultimate goal is to hang onto the Establishment’s preferred position as the Slightly Less Than Democrat Party.


20 posted on 03/21/2013 2:34:37 PM PDT by Tublecane
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