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Chris Christie Comes Out Against Gay Conversion Therapy
ABC News' The Note ^ | March 22, 2013 | Shushannah Walshe

Posted on 03/25/2013 8:31:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

After initially saying he was undecided on the topic, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is against gay conversion therapy. Christie faced criticism when he said earlier in the week he wasn’t sure if he would sign legislation banning the practice on minors.

“Governor Christie does not believe in conversion therapy,” spokesman Kevin Roberts said in a statement to the New Jersey Star-Ledger. “There is no mistaking his point of view on this when you look at his own prior statements where he makes clear that people’s sexual orientation is determined at birth.”

Gay conversion therapy, also known as reparative therapy, claims to be able to change the sexual orientation of gay people through religious counseling, intense therapy and other methods. Health organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association and the World Health Organization, have all spoken out against conversion therapy, saying it can cause serious and long-term harm. The New Jersey state senate’s health committee approved legislation banning the practice on Monday.

Christie, who is widely thought to have 2016 presidential aspirations, has not said whether he will sign the bill banning the practice. He remains opposed to same sex marriage.....

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TOPICS: New Jersey; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; newjersey

1 posted on 03/25/2013 8:31:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What does the good governor think about addadictomeys?

Why is talk therapy to change undesired sexual orientation bad, while surgery to change undesired sexual orientation good?


2 posted on 03/25/2013 8:35:16 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

please let him run as a Democrat....We can’t outbrand them, so let’s infiltrate...who better than CC for the task?


3 posted on 03/25/2013 8:35:19 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

shouldnt people choose their own therapy?

If straight conversion therapy is “banned” how about banning sexual mutilation in the name of transgender “therapy”


4 posted on 03/25/2013 8:35:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There is no mistaking his point of view on this when you look at his own prior statements where he makes clear that people’s sexual orientation is determined at birth.”

So he believes newborn babies decide if they like vagina as they are being pushed out? What if it is a Caesarian birth?


5 posted on 03/25/2013 8:37:11 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: silverleaf
It should be as being transgender fits the definition of a delusion (a strongly held belief despite over whelming evidence to the contrary)
6 posted on 03/25/2013 8:38:11 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sewing his mouth shut would have several beneficial results. How can you govern others when you can’t govern yourself?


7 posted on 03/25/2013 8:38:41 AM PDT by AmericanInsurgent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would you advise a woman to marry a guy who’s been through “gay conversion therapy”?


8 posted on 03/25/2013 8:40:09 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Okay, so now it is obvious. The ENTIRE agenda of many in Washington (no matter what party)is to force acceptance of homosexuality. Crime, education, the economy, terroristic threats, agriculture, etc., ad infinitum simply are of no interest to the governing authorities.

It doesn't matter that the rest of the nation, the other 98%, are trying to live by some moral standard and see that issue as completely irrelevant. It's Sodom and Gomorrah all over again.

9 posted on 03/25/2013 8:41:41 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Could it be because it didn’t work for him?
How do we know we don’t have his name backwards?


10 posted on 03/25/2013 8:42:15 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Healing is not conversion. Just ask former homosexuals.


11 posted on 03/25/2013 8:42:49 AM PDT by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What business is this of government?


12 posted on 03/25/2013 8:44:39 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

typical fat tub of sh#t


13 posted on 03/25/2013 8:46:08 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So much time and ink spent on pedestalizing the evil in America!


14 posted on 03/25/2013 8:46:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Blackirish

I guess I’d have to know the individuals involved. Don’t like to make blanket statements. Would you advise a woman to marry a man who committed a felony, was once a drunk driver, cheated on his girlfriend or did illegal drugs?


15 posted on 03/25/2013 8:47:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: wolfman23601

Christie is merely saying what is popular to gain a shot at the oval office. I held my nose and voted for Romney... I will not do so again for Christie or another RINO.


16 posted on 03/25/2013 8:47:36 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lobotomy is the answer to homosexuality.


17 posted on 03/25/2013 8:47:38 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So now, even if you want to be not gay, the government is close to forbidding that....

I guess choice ain’t as important as it used to be.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 8:48:56 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: gov_bean_ counter
EVERYTHING is now the business of government. Look at the current resident of the White House and where he came from.
19 posted on 03/25/2013 8:48:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Dick Vomer

Don’t paint all of us with that broad brush. There are many decent, conservative overweight people.


20 posted on 03/25/2013 8:50:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I have a niece who is smart and athletic and pretty. I have long thought that she was a lesbian -- but she is very discrete and does not look like a lesbian. Her brother, on the the other hand, strikes me as obviously gay.

Anyway, this girl (who is bright, but not a genius) has had doors opened for her all her life. She is 22 and was just offered a plum position at Harvard as a Univesity Adminsitrator of some kind.

You'd have a hard time convincing me that this is not a case of homosexuals opening doors for other homosexuals. They make up a little less than 2% of the population, but they make sure that the positions of power are filled by "club members".

21 posted on 03/25/2013 8:50:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I know, but sexual determination at birth? Bizarre theory.


22 posted on 03/25/2013 8:51:00 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Hildabeast/ Christie 2016


23 posted on 03/25/2013 8:53:12 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: IbJensen

Should we engage in eugenics too?

Homosexuality is disgusting, but forcing lobotomies on people?


24 posted on 03/25/2013 8:54:41 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: wolfman23601

I agree... it is bizarre. Remember though a minor is someone under age 18... I am skeptical that conversion therapy is being done on 6 year olds... but a confused 16 or 17 yo might be different. My guess is the gay lobby knows that the pre-teen and teen years are prime years in their recruiting efforts and professional intervention that would help turn a teen away from the gay lifestyle must be made illegal.


25 posted on 03/25/2013 8:57:37 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“smart, athletic, pretty” — yeah, obviously a lesbian. HELLO — just because she may not have spread her legs for the fist guy who came around doesn’t make her a lesbian. SOME women hold out for someone they really love and marry later in life. I did.


26 posted on 03/25/2013 8:57:39 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: gemoftheocean
I lived in Boston for 20 years. I have a background in the arts and I've had close association with two notable universities in Cambridge MA. One was an all-women's college before it became a university. My "gaydar" is pretty finely tuned.

I've known the young lady for 22 years. How long have you known her?

27 posted on 03/25/2013 9:01:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I agree with your first statement.

Okay, so now it is obvious. The ENTIRE agenda of many in Washington (no matter what party)is to force acceptance of homosexuality. Crime, education, the economy, terroristic threats, agriculture, etc., ad infinitum simply are of no interest to the governing authorities.

However your next statement is wrong:

It doesn’t matter that the rest of the nation, the other 98%, are trying to live by some moral standard and see that issue as completely irrelevant. It’s Sodom and Gomorrah all over again

98% are not trying to live by a moral standard.
They may not be queer, but about half or better in this country accept Homosexuaity and do not condemn it.
There is nothing moral about that.

If you accept it you are for it.You are part of the problem of the moral breakdown of this country.


28 posted on 03/25/2013 9:05:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I soooo agree!


29 posted on 03/25/2013 9:20:45 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Venturer
If you accept it you are for it.You are part of the problem of the moral breakdown of this country.

I will have to agree with your statements.

30 posted on 03/25/2013 9:21:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: silverleaf
If straight conversion therapy is “banned” how about banning sexual mutilation in the name of transgender “therapy”?

Best suggestion of the day!

31 posted on 03/25/2013 9:21:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess if he isn’t gay, he wouldn’t NEED the therapy.

I assume he is opposed to therapy for pedophiles as well, since they seem to be “born that way”.

What he really is opposed to is children getting to decide for themselves whether they want to give in to their base sexual urges, or would rather learn self-control, restraint, and appropriate boundaries.

Children should not be denied the treatment they want, just because gays need recruits.


32 posted on 03/25/2013 9:38:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

that’s funny


33 posted on 03/25/2013 9:42:11 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Chris Christie Comes Out Against Gay Conversion Therapy . . .

. . . and I come out against Homosexual Indoctrination in government schools, and in government-regulated media and entertainment. Can we call it even?

34 posted on 03/25/2013 9:42:23 AM PDT by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

None. But once they get a majority of states to accept the idea that the state can choose better than a parent what moral training a child gets, the next target will be churches.

It will be made illegal for you to teach your child some archaic mystical mythology like “Catholicism”. You won’t be allowed to take your kids to church, or send them through catechism. They will close the church-related schools, because they have to protect the children from the “child abuse” of teaching them that there is a God and there is sin and there is a heaven and hell. It’s all just tricks to make kids behave in ways that aren’t “natural”.

This is the end game. It will be illegal to raise up your child to believe in God. You will have your children taken away from you.


35 posted on 03/25/2013 9:43:01 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course he did.


36 posted on 03/25/2013 10:00:33 AM PDT by pieta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you say, I want very much to be attracted to the other sex, so I can marry and raise children in keeping with my beliefs, then what you really need is help in accepting your orientation.

If you say, I want very much for my body to be the other sex, so it comports with my mental image of myself, then what you need is therapy to help you explore your options, and perhaps hormone treatment and surgery.


37 posted on 03/25/2013 10:20:36 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just proves he’s and idiot. Anyone who believes that homosexuality is determined solely at birth are idiots and don’t understand much about human sexuality.


38 posted on 03/25/2013 10:22:55 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: longfellowsmuse

You are exactly right. Teenage years can be confusing and gay activists clearly are interested in trapping as many young people who are exposed to an often unatural level of sexual stimuli in the culture and through inappropriate exposure to pornography etc in the idea that they are gay and must act on those desires or they will not be happy. Below is a typical link.

http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/guys/sexual_orientation.html


39 posted on 03/25/2013 10:30:42 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yep. The political class GOP or DEM is the political class and they desire to transform America. There is absolutely no good reason to force the acceptance and normalcy of homosexuality or other deviant behaviors. All it does is confuse young people and deny many of them a normal family life not defined by their weird sex choices.


40 posted on 03/25/2013 10:32:59 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: EEGator

Please, Gator. It’s just an exercise in pleasant thought.


41 posted on 03/25/2013 10:44:00 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Okay. Just FYI, I’m sick of every gay crap on tv/news/movies everyday.


42 posted on 03/25/2013 11:14:51 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Homosexuals are such fun and entertaining.

I was in the U. S. Army Chemical Corps in the mid 1950’s and if a homosexual were to be detected it would be up his ass with bugs and gas!


43 posted on 03/25/2013 3:33:17 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

What would a homo be thinking joining the Army in the 50’s?!?


44 posted on 03/25/2013 3:37:45 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

It just couldn’t happen then....unless the sodomite had a death wish.


45 posted on 03/25/2013 3:41:24 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

That’s what I was thinking, you’ve got to be a true fool.


46 posted on 03/25/2013 3:46:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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