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Report: Senate Reaches Bipartisan Deal on Background Checks for Guns
The Blaze ^ | April 10. 2013 | Mytheos Holt 10

Posted on 04/10/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Could the much trumpeted goal (by many on the Left and some on the Right) of universal background checks for gun sales be one step closer to being met? Apparently, according to the Washington Post, it is. The Post reports that a bipartisan group of unnamed US senators has struck a deal on the policy.

Senators striking the deal include Joe Manchin (D-WV), Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), Mark Kirk (R-Ill) and Patrick Toomey (R-PA).

The deal in question certainly moves the ball on the issue. Current law only requires that background checks occur when purchases are made through a licensed dealer. The new law would expand that requirement to gun shows, the internet and “any circumstance in which there is paid advertising.” It is unclear how far this last set of requirements can be read to go, though.

Nevertheless, the Democratic caucus has been left somewhat cold, given that the proposed legislation does not cover every type of sale. All the same, if the Post report is correct, it should reach the Senate floor this week as part of larger legislation that will expand background checks, make gun trafficking a federal crime, and increase school security....

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: backgroundchecks; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; senate
Now, and I mean RIGHT NOW, would be the time to call your Senator.
1 posted on 04/10/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GOP endlessly shoots itself and Constitutional Americans in the head. Why is it that the Dems are always united to defeat the enemy (us) and the GOP fractures and folds so easily and strategizes against its own supporters? Could it be that much of the GOP is closer to the Rats than the base? Why do they wonder that there is such a siren call for a new conservative party?
2 posted on 04/10/2013 6:34:22 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Called both the worthless POSs


3 posted on 04/10/2013 6:36:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Truth29
Could it be that much of the GOP is closer to the Rats than the base

DId anyone ever aver otherwise?

4 posted on 04/10/2013 6:37:13 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs

The Bill is already dead. The Bill will get to the floor, then killed with amendments.

Even if it does pass is some form, it will be watered down in the House and essentially neutered by conference.

The end result will either a total defeat by libs or a piece of legislation that no one really likes.

Redstate dems will have to explain to their ‘moderate’ base why they voted for GC and to their ‘left’ base why they did not do enough. The Dems have blown this.


5 posted on 04/10/2013 6:38:02 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. I’m sure Menendez and Lautenberg will have a change of heart. LOL


6 posted on 04/10/2013 6:43:44 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Perdogg
Redstate dems will have to explain to their ‘moderate’ base why they voted for GC and to their ‘left’ base why they did not do enough. The Dems have blown this.

Geez, I hope you're right.

If there is a silver lining to this anti-liberty leftwing crusade, it is that the Red State Democrats will PAY for this when they're up for re-election.

But I'm not an optimist anymore...

7 posted on 04/10/2013 6:48:16 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...the internet and “any circumstance in which there is paid advertising.”

This would most likely have the effect of firearm sales being banned from websites and newspapers completely, for fear of running into legal liability issues if the seller didn't bother with the background checks.

8 posted on 04/10/2013 6:54:54 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Truth29

>>Could it be that much of the GOP is closer to the Rats than the base?<<

Ya think?


9 posted on 04/10/2013 7:10:18 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Perdogg

“The Bill is already dead.”

Nobody would waste time on a bill that is already dead. Conservatives need to fight against this bill every step of the way.

There’s a lot of support for gun control out there and the filibuster is probably the last line of defense. FYI, Boehner already folded and wants to take ‘action’.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 7:11:42 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So once again this will do NOTHING about the common thugs who kill thousands every year and instead will create legal hassles for legitimate gun owners. Want to see a reduction in “gun violence”? Enforce EXISTING law in Chicago and other leftist cities.


11 posted on 04/10/2013 7:12:43 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope any Senator that votes for this becomes the victim of a home invasion.


12 posted on 04/10/2013 7:13:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope y’all remember how your Senator votes on this issue come 2014. I’m lucky to have Senator Coats one out of two Senators ain’t bad but it would be nice to have two that protect 2A.


13 posted on 04/10/2013 7:17:34 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Rappini

Thankfully Ron Johnson has joined the filibuster movement.

When the the day comes (and at this rate I figure sooner than later) and us angry peasants look up at the light posts and tree limbs we should remember to start with the party members who claimed to represent us.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 7:26:13 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gifts. I gift you a gun today. That’s not a sale.

Tomorrrow, you pay my rent. Thank you for the gift!


15 posted on 04/10/2013 7:38:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newsmax
Toomey, Manchin Reach Bipartisan Deal on Gun Background Checks
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 08:36 AM

By: Heidi Przybyla and James Rowley

Two U.S. senators have reached a bipartisan compromise to expand background checks of U.S. firearms purchasers that they plan to announce later today, according to a Senate aide.

Senator Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, said yesterday that he was close to a deal with Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican whose support could prove critical to saving the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s gun agenda from defeat.

Manchin and Toomey plan to hold a news briefing at 11 a.m. today in Washington.


16 posted on 04/10/2013 7:39:58 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bipartisan = You are so screwed.


17 posted on 04/10/2013 7:43:20 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uh, let's see. My representatives are:

Sen.Dick Durbin

Sen.Mark Kirk

Congressman Bobby Rush

Representative Emil Jones Jr., the son of Obama's political godfather Emil Jones Sr.

Who exactly do you want me to call?

18 posted on 04/10/2013 7:53:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Tyrant Kim Un Hussein must be very pleased that his efforts to “FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” are progressing so easily.


19 posted on 04/10/2013 8:00:48 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Perdogg

I tend to agree. I can’t see how this garbage has any chance of passing in the GOP controlled House of Representatives. Even many Democrats in the House would have trouble explaining a vote for this gun grabbing in the next election.

While I’d prefer it gets fillibustered and doesn’t even have a chance to go any further, I think it might actually be better to force a lot of Red state and pro-gun leaning swing state Democrat Senators to vote for this political poison and then pay the price in 2014 and 2016.

As unpopular as new gun control is now, by 2014, the memory of Newton will have faded and the gun grabbers will no longer be able to stand on the corpses of the dead children and exploit their tragic deaths to push their anti-American agenda.


20 posted on 04/10/2013 8:01:02 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Truth29

“The GOP endlessly shoots itself and Constitutional Americans in the head. Why is it that the Dems are always united to defeat the enemy (us) and the GOP fractures and folds so easily and strategizes against its own supporters?”

Because they are peas in the same pod.


21 posted on 04/10/2013 8:01:04 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Senator Wicker of Mississippi will not vote for it... Senator “cockroach” cochran might... he says he no longers cares what we citizens think.

LLS

22 posted on 04/10/2013 8:05:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fortunately gun control isn’t going anywhere in the House. I got this info directly from my congressman.


23 posted on 04/10/2013 8:10:06 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

One thing to point out about a Filibuster; Reid can circumvent a filibuster anyway by allowing amendments. Once the amendments are passed the Bill will be killed.


24 posted on 04/10/2013 8:11:11 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The flame under that pot of frogs on the stove just ticked up a notch.


25 posted on 04/10/2013 8:14:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“Nobody would waste time on a bill that is already dead.”

Yes they would, it is called theatre.

“Conservatives need to fight against this bill every step of the way.”

I agree

“There’s a lot of support for gun control out there and the filibuster is probably the last line of defense.”

Nonsense, Reid has already said he would circumvent the Filibuster by allowing amendments.

“FYI, Boehner already folded and wants to take ‘action’.”

Nonsense. He said he would ‘consider’ it, but it has no chance of passage in the House without amendments, then it would be forced to conference where it would be watered down more. I do not see Liberals supporting the Manchin Bill.


26 posted on 04/10/2013 8:15:55 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Capitol switchboard is in full meltdown mode and BOTH senators’ voice mail boxes are FULL.

Look up your guys’ LOCAL, in-state offices and leave a message there (not that it will do much good but ya never know, right?). Be sure to gently remind them that caving on this one will be equivalent to opening a Pandora’s Box that would be better left unopened.

Trust me when I say that the usurper’s handlers have all their stooges calling their support of obozo’s destruction of the Second Amendment/.


27 posted on 04/10/2013 8:22:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
.the internet and “any circumstance in which there is paid advertising.”

Internet sales already require going through a licensed dealer. Duplication of laws is a common rat tactic.

28 posted on 04/10/2013 8:30:37 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Perdogg

Ok, the bill ‘might’ get watered down. But it’s not dead.

When you and others go around posting that it’s dead you are demobilizing the resistance. Now is the time to turn up the heat. The bill is not dead.


29 posted on 04/10/2013 9:19:38 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While the direct approach has its merits, a little sabotage can go a long way. In this case, start a rumor with the left that this is truly a giant bargain, that the House is also in on it, not just the Senate, one that they would be utterly horrified with.

The Republicans agree to more but still *limited* background checks; and they also agree to amnesty for illegals; and a continuing resolution to fully fund the government for the rest of Obama’s term in office.

HOWEVER, in exchange for this, not only will Obamacare be completely defunded, and the program killed, but also so will be Medicare. Over, finished, no more. And the Medicaid expansion will be canceled.

While utter nonsense, and maybe with some jiggering, this might be made just plausible enough for the leftist rank and file to think is for real. And they would lose their collective marbles.

Right now the Republican senators are being pressured, but they are such toads that they are used to it. But the Democrat senators would first issue lots of denials, that even their own people would not believe, and then they would likely stampede.

As far away from the gun control debate as they could get.


30 posted on 04/10/2013 11:49:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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