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Rubio says immigration plan not amnesty, amid conservative scrutiny
Fox News / The Associated Press ^ | April 14, 2013

Posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio dismissed arguments Sunday that the Senate immigration bill offers amnesty for illegal immigrants and said border security is not the only key issue -- amid scrutiny from some fellow conservatives and the union that represents immigration enforcement agents.

Rubio told “Fox News Sunday” that anybody living illegally in the United States and attempting to get a visa would face a long list of qualifications, which includes paying taxes, a fine and an application fee as well as having a job and waiting for at least 10 years.

“That is not amnesty,” said Rubio, a Cuban-American considered a key member of the so-called bipartisan Gang of Eight....

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Florida; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; florida; gangofeight; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; marcorubio; rubio
You can call an automobile a cow, but the milk tastes like gasoline.
1 posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Step 1 - Secure the borders
Step 2 - Enforce the current law

If business needs more people they can pay slave wages too then offer temp work visas for those people outside the US that want to come and work.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 5:09:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope this is the end of this guy's political career.

But what a way to go out - putting a bullet in the head of your party and trashing the country forever.

3 posted on 04/14/2013 5:10:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

But, but, he’s the great GOP savior!!!


4 posted on 04/14/2013 5:12:27 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio has consumed the FlavorAid.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 5:13:56 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The country is circling the drain, what difference dies it make? Unless some states kick off Secession II real soon, we are in the “bread and circuses” phase of the republic’s demise. Enjoy the ride.


6 posted on 04/14/2013 5:14:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it does these two things:
1: Allow them to remain in the country legally
2: Grants them a path to citizenship
It is amnesty plain and simple! If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck,it’s a Duck no matter how many times you call it a Pony! Either Rubio is deluding himself or he thinks were really stupid, either way he seems to be in the wrong party now!


7 posted on 04/14/2013 5:14:29 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It all depends on what the meaning of the word is, is."

Fun With Words For Dummies.

8 posted on 04/14/2013 5:14:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio speaks with forked tongue.


9 posted on 04/14/2013 5:18:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

....clumsily coerced onto the bottom rung of the senile Rino ladder to temporary success and ultimate failure. You showed promise only to succumb to the power and greed known as the American right.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 5:19:00 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They get to stay. That’s AMNESTY.


11 posted on 04/14/2013 5:19:37 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The feds aren't enforcing current immigration law, and attack any state that attempts to do so.

If they don't enforce the current law, why give them another low to selectively enforce?

12 posted on 04/14/2013 5:23:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: AuntB
Says Rove.

What irritates me the most about Rubio is he's treating conservatives as rubes. NO true small government conservative would agree to legalizing millions of future wards of the state as he is.

13 posted on 04/14/2013 5:25:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The current penalty for illegal immigration is deportation and not being allowed back in the country (on the occasions when it is enforced). And that's on top of the usual crimes that go along with illegal immigration like tax evasion and ID theft.

Rubio's penalty is a far, far less.

Cities and states have tax amnesties where you just have to obey the law by paying your back taxes immediately and you don't face any further penalties. The equivalent in immigration would be "leave the country and we won't count it against you for further legal immigration attempts". And by parallel to the tax amnesty programs, even that would be amnesty. Rubio's plan has a lesser penalty than that.

Thus it is amnesty.

14 posted on 04/14/2013 5:26:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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15 posted on 04/14/2013 5:30:35 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time for a true second party. The ‘Rats and most of the GOP are one in the same. Lining their cronies pockets is all they know.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 5:38:42 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh-huh.

And the moon is a large star that burns as brightly as the sun!


17 posted on 04/14/2013 5:42:47 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Mastador1
either way he seems to be in the wrong party now!

Unfortunately, BOTH political parties are pushing for a permanent voting bloc comprised of illegal invaders.

18 posted on 04/14/2013 5:45:58 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is time to secure the border. This is similar to having an open wound on the body. You disinfect, close the wound and keep out the bacteria. Any infection you treat with antibiotics.

The flow of trespassers across our border is like an infection getting into the wound. We need to seal the border like you close a wound. The bacteria that has got inside to infect, needs to be treated with antibiotics if the body’s normal defenses are unable. How we treat the trespassers inside our border must be everything that benefits the host. Letting them drain taxpayer money for their welfare must stop immediately. This enables employers to provide work for low wages that is supplemented by the tax payer.

If employers want to reduce costs, they need to push for lower taxes and less regulations. It is ironic that employers do little to fight taxes and regulations and will even donate to politicians who increase taxes and regulations. But that is another discussion . . .

Those inside our borders need to be tax payers We need to develop methods for detecting under-the-table payments for work as a high priority. This is how employers can pay such low wages while attracting low wage workers. We need to break this system because it is a magnet that draws trespassers across our borders willing to risk life to do so. All laws forbidding under-the-table payments for work should be strengthened and enforced; and those involved, prosecuted as a felony. I believe this effort will be one of the first line of defenses against our foreign invaders.


19 posted on 04/14/2013 5:47:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I watched his interview on Fox this morning.

It was more than disappointing.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 5:49:30 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Politicalmom
"They get to stay. That’s AMNESTY."

Louder!

21 posted on 04/14/2013 5:56:56 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: berdie
On FNS, the more absurd his arguments, the faster Rubio talked, as if talking faster would make him more believable.
22 posted on 04/14/2013 6:06:00 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s been saying this for a long time.
During the 1986 amnesty there was a million illegals who ignored the amnesty and didnt bother applying. Is Rubio going to say he the only problem is the illegals who wont sign up for his amnesty.

Hannity came out for amnesty a long time ago as well when he interviewed Condi Rice.


23 posted on 04/14/2013 6:07:04 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quit selling your garbage, Rubio.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 6:24:05 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is simply a bad idea to lure more illegals here with promises of citizenship.


25 posted on 04/14/2013 6:24:43 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Yes, the Hillary 2016 forces are out in force, The name Rubio is mentioned and lights start flashing and they release their prepared text. “We must start a 3rd party”; “Rubio is a Rino”, it goes on and on an on. He is definitely over the target and the dems and their useful idiot followers on this site can’t hit him. They know he can do what no minority conservative could ever do, make a permanent home for growing Hispanics in a conservative, pro Life, pro family Republican Party. The Progressive Democrats will land on the ash heap of History forever. Go Marco Go!


26 posted on 04/14/2013 7:41:15 PM PDT by ynotjjr (Under Construction)
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To: central_va

Given modern tech, communications, the level of depravity that I believe exceeds anything seen in Rome at the time, I think you are going to see everything happen nearly at once including the collapse, and subsequent nuking by our enemies namely Russia and China.


27 posted on 04/14/2013 8:06:08 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How can you tell Rubio is lying? His lips are moving.
28 posted on 04/14/2013 8:47:20 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: skeeter

“I hope this is the end of this guy’s political career.”

It will be - it is just that today they know not better! Seems that way too many tend to listen to the media instead of their constituents. Normal operation for politicians.


29 posted on 04/14/2013 9:20:26 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: TomGuy

He reminded me of a little kid saying...No, no, I didn’t do it.

Dang it, he could have been a contender!


30 posted on 04/14/2013 9:44:47 PM PDT by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does anybody really believe that Rubio or any Republican is now going to become a fan against illegal immigration? Are you folks nuts?

All politicians are going for their best interests - now and long term, what do you expect?

As long as you continue to vote these asshats into office, you are to blame! If you want real change - vote these ASSHATS out of office at the first chance!!


31 posted on 04/14/2013 10:37:04 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

I just put Ted Cruz in the Senate. I haven’t lived in Florida since I was 10.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 10:41:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, I was trying to comment to the whole thread via the author. It definitely was not meant toward you!

As to Curz, our man in the Senate - he is our man! He has so far been so good that I cringe at the thought of him not being there...heh.

All of our family love his positions and actions so far - can’t imagine him going soft thank goodness!! Sometimes Texas gets it really right!


33 posted on 04/14/2013 10:48:17 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio can go straight to hell!!!


34 posted on 04/14/2013 10:53:09 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Yes, he has shown his stripes and they are political ambition without regard to beliefs. Time to let him go...too ad, he had potential.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 11:48:01 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You can call an automobile a cow, but the milk tastes like gasoline.

How about applying the Limbaugh Patch: If they entered illegally at any time, they won't be allowed to vote for twenty years after naturalization.

Put that in any bill, and the Demonrats will drop it like a hot potato.
36 posted on 04/15/2013 6:17:34 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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