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"God help us" if we don't act on gun violence, Manchin says
CBS News' Face The Nation ^ | April 14, 2013 | Lindsey Boerma

Posted on 04/14/2013 9:59:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Penn., is "confident," he said Sunday on "Face the Nation," that he and Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., will be able to muster enough Republican support in the Senate to pass an amendment that would expand background checks for gun purchases.

"We're close," said Toomey said, appearing with Manchin. "We're discussing with colleagues on both sides. We've got bipartisan support, but there is bipartisan opposition."

Toomey and Manchin, along with Sens. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced last week they had struck the deal, which would expand background checks for gun purchases to all commercial sales - including at gun shows and via the Internet.

On Saturday, Maine Sen. Susan Collins became the third Republican to back the proposal, which will appear as an amendment to the current gun safety bill being mulled by the Senate; Toomey said others have unofficially committed.

"It's very hard to say what amendments may succeed and which may fail," Toomey conceded. But, he added, "ours, I think, just strikes the right balance....

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: West Virginia; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; manchin; secondamendment; senate; toomey
Vichy Republicans.
1 posted on 04/14/2013 9:59:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Joey, “gun control” laws do nothing to cut down on “gun violence”. BTW: Homicide is illegal. We’ve got laws against it. How’s that working out?


2 posted on 04/14/2013 10:03:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

keep guns out of the hands of every Obama sympathizer.. problem solved virtually overnight


3 posted on 04/14/2013 10:03:43 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In fringe us not.

Or face the consequences.

4 posted on 04/14/2013 10:04:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they keep passing more and more laws and they don’t work.

they ar deliberately insane, they keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 10:07:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

God help you if you keep up this pursuit to subjugate the citizens of the United States of America with your radical left wing extemist demokkkrat scumbag socialist agenda. You are a sorry excuse for someone who is supposed to defend and protect the constitution of this country. Which is an understatement. Not a single thing that has been proposed will do anything to decrease what you clowns have decided to name gun violence. Asshats.


6 posted on 04/14/2013 10:19:57 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FOM Munchkin


7 posted on 04/14/2013 10:20:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Manchin:

God help you if you seek to confiscate the peeps gunz.

8 posted on 04/14/2013 10:21:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FO Munchkin

“Fixed”


9 posted on 04/14/2013 10:22:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(Thread below) Munchin’ admits his bill will not prevent another Sandy Hook.
Then, what’s the point, Joe? I propose that it is to be found on top of your head.
Harumph harumph, your hoity toity Congress critter jobs .... we pay for this BS.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 10:23:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: rktman

i assume you’re directing this to obama...?


11 posted on 04/14/2013 10:24:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 posted on 04/14/2013 10:24:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, if the shoe fits, I guess he could also wear it. But then again he might like where the shoe goes. Even enjoy it possibly.


13 posted on 04/14/2013 10:29:49 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually, they are getting the exact results they want, diminished Liberty and re-election...


14 posted on 04/14/2013 10:31:17 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, I trust God far more than the Government. I'd rather have Him help us.

If God helps me, I feel good about that.

When you hear "We're from the Government and we're here to help you", you're in trouble.

15 posted on 04/14/2013 10:37:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The United States Senate is quite amazing.

While they Voting to Criminalize Law Abiding Citizens, they are Voting to Decriminalize Illegal Invaders.

Makes me want to start a Noose Manufacturing Company.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 10:38:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Correction:

While they “ARE” Voting to Criminalize Law Abiding Citizens, they are Voting to Decriminalize Illegal Invaders.


17 posted on 04/14/2013 10:40:24 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God help America when the government no longer fears its citizens.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 10:40:24 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

If they don’t fear us, it’s because they’re idiots:

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


19 posted on 04/14/2013 10:43:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve never understood that after 237 years we still have to keep passing more laws. You’d think we would have perfected it by now.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 11:33:21 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

it’s more ways to disarm people that aren’t breaking the existing laws you’ve passed to try to turn them into criminals with.


21 posted on 04/14/2013 11:42:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Joe doe not get it. I ask this question: If a kid is willing to kill his own mother, how do we expect him to worry about any government gun laws?

We can write and write and write every law under the sun and there is one law that will never be broke: the human mind will find a way to kill as many people as possible:

Samson said, “Swear to me that you won’t kill me yourselves.”

13 “Agreed,” they answered. “We will only tie you up and hand you over to them. We will not kill you.” So they bound him with two new ropes and led him up from the rock.

14 As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands.

15 Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men.

16 Then Samson said,

“With a donkey’s jawbone

I have made donkeys of them.

With a donkey’s jawbone

I have killed a thousand men.”

17 When he finished speaking, he threw away the jawbone; and the place was called Ramath Lehi (Jawbone Hill).

--Judges 15: 12-17


22 posted on 04/15/2013 12:33:20 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Joe does not get it. I ask this question: If a kid is willing to kill his own mother, how do we expect him to worry about any government gun laws?

We can write and write and write every law under the sun and there is one law that will never be broke: the human mind will find a way to kill as many people as possible:

Samson said, “Swear to me that you won’t kill me yourselves.”

13 “Agreed,” they answered. “We will only tie you up and hand you over to them. We will not kill you.” So they bound him with two new ropes and led him up from the rock.

14 As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands.

15 Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men.

16 Then Samson said,

“With a donkey’s jawbone

I have made donkeys of them.

With a donkey’s jawbone

I have killed a thousand men.”

17 When he finished speaking, he threw away the jawbone; and the place was called Ramath Lehi (Jawbone Hill).

--Judges 15: 12-17


23 posted on 04/15/2013 12:34:02 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just hate it when politicians wail “But we have to do something!” They just don’t get it. Obamacare should have taught them that “doing something” in Washington is usually much worse than doing nothing at all.


24 posted on 04/15/2013 4:08:53 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The former reasonably-reasonable Messrs Toomey and Manchin have been infected with the latest strain of Beltway Angst...

Just do your duty to protect and defend the Constitution...

Congress is not tasked with solving every problem in every state at the momentary whim of the touchy-feely-drifty-breezy-leftward lunatics presently ensconced in DC.

25 posted on 04/15/2013 4:18:40 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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“God help us” if we don’t act on gun violence, Manchin says

What did the government ever do about Ruby Ridge, the Koresh group in Tx, or Fast & Furious? Nothing, nada, zero!


26 posted on 04/15/2013 4:57:38 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: kenmcg

Toomey and Manchin, along with Sens. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced last week they had struck the deal,.......

These ass hats can start planning for their “un-employment” checks to start arriving sometime shortly after the 2014 elections.

If EVERY legal gun owner in this country decided to vote for something collectively, there would be very little of this crap taking place as every damn one of those politicians would clearly see THEIR END, as an elected politician, is near.


27 posted on 04/15/2013 5:35:58 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about this:

Before passing anything new, as no law currently has been effective, rescind all laws already on the books. Baseline. Then find what works.

Of course, as Rights are involved in this instance, you can blow it out your ass. Bless your little heart.


28 posted on 04/15/2013 9:47:13 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; cyn
"God help us" if we don't act on gun violence, Manchin says

Take a chill pill you Drama Queen! Most of us would like to be able to do something substantial and realistic about violence but morons like you are hysterically working to prevent us from having the means to.

29 posted on 04/15/2013 10:57:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No, sen. Manchin, you moron. God help us if we DO act on this flawed legislation.
30 posted on 04/15/2013 3:02:38 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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