Skip to comments.Fred Barnes: Immigration Reform Is Starting to Roll
Posted on 04/25/2013 4:08:12 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
Sen. Lindsey Graham predicts 70 votes for the 'Gang of Eight' bill with Marco Rubio on board.
It is rare in Washington for the trend lines on a controversial issue to come together as favorably as they have for immigration reform.
Public support is roughly around 70%, according to various polls, with Gallup having it at 72%. Senate Republicans blocked an overhaul of immigration laws in 2007 but now a substantial bloc of Republicans, alarmed by the GOP's shrunken share of the Hispanic vote in the 2012 election, are eager to enact "comprehensive" reform legislation.
For their part, Hispanic groups recognize that this is an opportune moment for achieving their goal of citizenship for illegal immigrants in America. They are willing to accept legislation with a protracted timetablea minimum of 13 yearsbefore citizenship can be attained.
And two backers of immigration reform have emerged as key players since Congress took up the issue last week with hearings of the Senate Judiciary Committee. One is President Obama. In February, the leak of a White House billincluding provisions that would be anathema to Republicansthreatened to upset the pro-reform coalition. Since then, the president has promised to stay out of the congressional deliberations.
The other is Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. His role is as critical as the president's, but for a different reason. Mr. Obama can stymie legislation, but Mr. Rubio's leadership is essential to passing immigration reform in the first place. This is why Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, longtime advocates of reform, recruited him and created the bipartisan "Gang of Eight" with four Republicans and four Democrats........
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DON'T DO IT. Last warning.
AND, the PUBICS are STILL NOT going to get the 'beaner' vote!!!
Should be DOPe Party
Be sure to read the rest, I can only guess at why immature and amateurish Rubio was recruited, outmaneuvered, then 'bought'.
Once this happens, you’ll never see a conservative elected anywhere IMHO.
NY POST EXCERPT--- Mexican cartels dispatch agents deep inside US - spread into non-border states
CHICAGO (AP) Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the US border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States an emboldened presence that experts believe is meant to tighten their grip on the world's most lucrative narcotics market and maximize profits. If left unchecked, authorities say, the cartels' move into the American interior could render the syndicates harder than ever to dislodge and pave the way for them to expand into other criminal enterprises such as prostitution, kidnapping- and-extortion rackets and money laundering.
Some cartels even have Mexican operatives fill out job applications before being dispatched to the US, Riley added.
In Mexico, the cartels are known for a staggering number of killings more than 50,000, according to one tally. Beheadings are sometimes a signature. So far, cartels don't appear to be directly responsible for large numbers of slayings in the United States, though the Texas Department of Public Safety reported 22 killings and five kidnappings in Texas at the hands of Mexican cartels from 2010 through mid- 2011. Still, police worry that increased cartel activity could fuel heightened violence.--SNIP--
In Chicago, the police commander who oversees narcotics investigations, James O'Grady, said street-gang disputes over turf account for most of the city's uptick in murders last year, when slayings topped 500 for the first time since 2008.
Although the cartels aren't dictating the territorial wars, they are the source of drugs. Riley's assessment is stark: He argues that the cartels should be seen as an underlying cause of Chicago's disturbingly high murder rate. "They are the puppeteers," he said. "Maybe the shooter didn't know and maybe the victim didn't know that. But if you follow it down the line, the cartels are ultimately responsible."
They don’t give two sh*ts about what we have to say about it. Most GOPe senaturds will be long gone once that 13-year timeframe is up. La Raza’s money and influence own this bunch.
On this and Obamacare, we are screwed. Big time.
Graphic courtesy of auntb.
Won’t make it past the filibuster.
I hear the violins tuning on the far end of the GOPe and if they aren’t careful the whole country.
Sorry, I was hoping what happened last week in Boston will stop them headlong on this dash, any thinking person would have slowed down and ask questions, but today I feel more pessimistic.
GOP commits suicide.
Time for a 3rd party, folks.
Sure.. Call your senaturds if it’ll make you feel “involved,” but face it... those assholes are bought and paid for.
GOP commits suicide.
Time for a 3rd party, folks.
Stuff happens in politics.
Fred wrote this nonsense? Time to retire!
If you believe polls then 85+% supported Obama's gun control legislation. That died. This will die too.
Two months ago it was gay marriage, last month it was gun control, and this month, amnesty. What will it be next month?
This issue disgusts me, and I don't care if Rubio is 100% conservative on all other issues, I will never support or vote for him period. Nor will I for any other politician that votes for this bill.
That being said I also support immigration reform. I support reforming the border patrol so they actually protect the border. I support going back to a quota system. I support a path to citizenship, as long as that path leads to the back of the line, so people playing by the rules have equal opportunity. (most Hispanics and other foreign born citizens that played by the rules support this as well)I support increased scrutiny (to the effect of a moratorium) of any Muslim or national from a Muslim majority country. I support the immediate review of all current student visas, with a review of the system that is in place now. I support reviewing and changing our "refugee" policy. I support the termination of all H1-B visas.
If that is what they mean by immigration reform the 70% figure actually seems low.
I am ready-—been ready.
WE don’t have a party anymore.
Republicans better hope they can get enough Hispanic votes to make up for those they are losing.
Q: What type of country refuses to secure its border, allows 30 million invaders to squat inside its territory, then proposes to give them citizenship, benefits and voting rights as a “solution?”
A: A dying country that seeks to hasten its demise.
AS SICKIOFLIBS INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: There is winning or whining, we need to choose. Post-2012 we now know "Immigration Reform" is a dangerous issue for Repubs---they are cornered.
A Morning Joe guest pointed out that even suckup Obama once voted against immigration reform b/c it lacked a path to citizenship----a key demand of strongarm unions.
MJ guest also observed that unions are not enthused about immigration reform b/c legalized workers will compete with union members (exactly why business wants it). Now unions will go along IF illegals get the vote (cunning union bosses calculate this will help them b/c illegals will vote Dem/lib).
SOLibs SOLUTION---HOIST THEM ON THEIR OWN PETARD Repubs in the House should not do or say anything until Reid gets a bill passed. At that point, Rs offer a compromise that is similar to Obama's relentless EO's.....but contains no path to citizenship.
Now if Reid fails, the GOP goes into 2014 rubbing the debacle into the faces of a key Dem base (EXACTLY how Obama plays Rs against each other) .
It is important that Repubs say things like America is built on hard working immigrants and we welcome those immigrants who want to follow our laws, pay their taxes and live the American Dream (the way O sucks up----not pull a Romney 47% gaffe). When the bill dies for lack of union support-Repubs can then blame Dems and Obama for making the perfect the enemy of the good.'
WASHINTGTON FREE BEACON---Blacks Opposing Amnesty;African-American leaders call on Congressional Black Caucus to halt immigration bill BBR> BY: Stephanie Wang--- http://freebeacon.com/opposing-amnesty/
The African American Leadership Council asked the Congressional Black Caucus to oppose the Senate Gang of Eights immigration bill at a press conference Wednesday morning. The leaders called on the caucus to protect black workers by opposing the 844-page bill, portions of which the coalition described as amnesty.
The bill released last week would place 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship. Speakers at the press conference cited the disparate impact of legalization on low-skilled workers, particularly black workers. They stressed the economic security issues involved in granting illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.
The council questioned whether there are enough low-skill jobs for both African Americans and immigrants. One member said increased immigration levels would keep black unemployment, which is already nearly double the national average, elevated for some time. With unemployment at 7.6 percent, this is preposterous, coalition member Charles Butler said. What makes sense is for Americas jobs to be reserved for people who are legally entitled to compete for them.
The coalition slammed establishment black leaders in the press conference, saying they do not represent the African-American community on this issue. They said they also feel betrayed by the NAACP and big labor, both of which have backed amnesty proposals.
Elite leadership is not the same as the black grassroots, said Frank Morris, former executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. He said the immigration issue is often the most divisive between elite black leaders and regular members of the black community.
The press conference comes on the heels of a letter sent earlier this month to Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Marcia Fudge (D., Ohio) by three members of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights asking the caucus to consider the damaging effects of the bill on the black community.
Grant of legal status will likely disproportionately harm lower-skilled African-Americans by making it more difficult for them to obtain employment and depressing their wages when they do obtain employment, the members wrote.
“Republicans better hope they can get enough Hispanic votes to make up for those they are losing.”
I think the Repubs also know the dems have a permanent lock on the White House, so without that unifying element, they’re now in the “screw it.. pander to every interest group” mode.
Well, El Marco lost his following from me the split instant he mentioned “immigration reform” instead of Border Control and Illegal Alien apprehension (he didn’t call his cousins that - something else innocuous).
There is not ONE Republican, conservative - whoever I will EVER vote for anything, or support that appeases on Immigration. They are horribly mistaken to believe that pandering to hispanics in this country will gain them any ground. We have been invaded; we should react as such.
Right.... Just like they were against homo marriage. Once their god Obama says it’s good for them, they’ll fall right in line.
They’ll effing find out just how many of us “locos” there are out here come 2014 and in 2016.
I won’t vote for anyone that votes for ANY immigration bill, other than one that reaffirms laws already on the books and FORCES the government to enforce them, period!
The Boston bomber brothers lived lavishly, drove luxury cars, and had the leisure time, and money, to buy and build deadly bombs...with no visible means of support. Monthly welfare check would not suffice---they had to have several other sources of income.
A look at Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched forging phony identities---a practice very common in the latino community.
PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1
NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).
The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####
Several year ago, a TV report concerned a US Post Office somewhere near the Mexican border that was used by illegals to send money home. It was so busy the US Govt. put in several trailers to handle the business.
The Third World knows massive financial benefits would derive from "immigration reform"......Third world pressure groups exchanging votes for foreign aid---zillions of us tax dollars going straight into the pockets of corrupt third world federales.
THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES W/ PRESSURE GROUPS IN THE US (here illegally sending billions back home): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside), Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.
Never give up. Who knew sap-happy Ohaha’s obsession w/ gun control would fail?
Wow, that’s a stunner. Welfare abuse, plus who knows what else in terms of fraud.
I’m done w the GOP.
I have already called and e-mailed his offices letting them know he has lost me and many others. This from one who supported him through the campaign in work and money with automatic monthly contributions that extended to his PAC after he won. I cut it off a year ago when he started to waffle.
I also let them know I would do the same in support of someone who can present the creds of a conservative record and this time the words must match the record, which he had very little of.
I agree that we may have been duped, but remember, the choice was between him and Crist. McCallister kept shooting himself in the foot.
They don't want control, if they win any election (happy accident), they just want to continue to enjoy their perks and ‘prestige’.
The GOPe is too busy exporting US jobs to worry about things which actually matter.
Get with the program GOP.
Hire Americans, in America. Export goods. Stop selling out America, now.
The word is out: "undocumented" terrorists, come on down---invade the US, and bring bombs. It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us."
"UNDOCUMENTED ALIIENS" TEACH ETHNIC SOLIDARITY---AND VOW TO KILL AMERICANS.
BLOOD-CURDLING "LA RAZA STUDIES"--- ACTUALLY TAUGHT IN ARIZONA SCHOOLS FOR TEN YEARS : These shocking quotes are taken directly from A LA Raza textbook "Occupied America" (pg. 167): Supporters would execute all white males over age 16, (also known as the Plan of San Diego). LA Raza school textbook chapter from Occupied America, by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: We have got to eliminate the gringo, and if worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him, (pg. 323).
La Raza books also talk about the need for the govt of Mexico to re-take seven states in SW United States. so that the Southwest USA would become a Chicano nation.
YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given to "La Raza charter schools" via the US Dept of Education grants. These charter schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan on US soil, and even Aztec math.
La Raza is using taxpayer funds to organize the murdering of Americans; the federally-funded La Raza organization operates 100 charter schools across America.
ARIZONA SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASE--- Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza ethnic solidarity indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.
Cong Raul Grijalva (and friend) is one of Mexicos most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding-- abetting and funding La Raza studies.
In the aftermath of the Boston Marathon killing spree by foreign-born jihadists, see-no-evil bureaucrats in Washington are stubbornly defending America's lax asylum policies. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano told the Senate Tuesday that the screening process is rigorous, effective and extensive.
These people can't handle the truth. Or tell it.
The Tsarnaev brothers reportedly were granted asylum by "derivative" status through their parents. After entering on short-term tourist visas, the mother and father (an ethnic Chechen Muslim) won asylum and acquired U.S. citizenship.
Next, younger son Dzhokhar obtained U.S. citizenship. Older son Tamerlan, whose naturalization application was pending, traveled freely between the U.S. and the jihad recruitment zone of Dagestan, Russia, last year before the bombers' gunfight in Watertown, Mass., last week left the Muslim terrorist dead.
Though they had convinced the U.S. that they faced deadly persecution, the Tsarnaevs' parents both returned to their native land and were there when their sons launched last week's terror rampage. Authorities will not reveal any details of the sob stories the Tsarnaevs originally spun to win asylum benefits for the entire family.
The whole thing stinks. And it's an old, familiar stench. Immigration lawyers have been working the system on behalf of asylum con artists for decades. The racketeers coach applicants with phony stories and documents from "chop shops" and game their way through "refugee roulette."
Asylum and refugee claimants are being rubber-stamped at all-time-high rates. Government data analyzed by the nonpartisan TRAC website show that "the odds of an asylum claim being denied in Immigration Court reached an historic low in FY 2012, with only 44.5 percent being turned down.
Ten years ago, almost two out of three (62.6 percent) individuals seeking asylum lost their cases in similar actions. Twenty years ago, fewer than one out of four (24 percent) asylum...(Excerpt) Read more at creators.com ...
It failed last week... but the enemy, unlike the GOP, never quits. Like the cancer it is, the enemy continually probes for weak spots to exploit. Because they know, in the end, the GOP will shrink from a fight, they keep pressing ever forward.
And immigration is different... amnesty, citizenship and voting rights are the holy grail for La Raza and the other pressure groups. And, oh by the way... all that talk about "border security" is just that... talk.
Sorry... I don't share the optimism anymore.
“What will it be next month?”
First amendment repeal
The democrats call us racists on a daily basis. And the GOPe does the same!
So I would rather have a complete nobody elected president than Marco Rubio, or Bush3, both of whom are conservatives in name only. At least with a democrat president, we could justifiably oppose all their socialist policies.
The problem really begins when we have a socialist / GOPe President in office. There is next to no way to oppose them... and we get just as much socialism... its the worst of both worlds.
Doing whats best for the country huh?
That's what “alarms” me!....throw ‘em ALL out
The problem here was that the pro-RINO voters saw Rubio as someone as acceptable as Crist, for their purposes, but younger and probably less gay.
They voted for Rubio and the Conservatives voted for Rubio and Rubio won.
Later on, in the 2012 election, after purging Florida's voter rolls of all the illegals, etc. we ran Romney against Obama and lost ~ with those same voters. The reason is now obvious ~ with Charlie Crist having officially 'gone over' so did his pro-RINO voters.
We know we no longer have the pro-RINO voter faction available to us in Florida. Hence Rubio's total panic ~
This movement of FACTIONS, not just individual voters, is the way the party system works in this country. We have to learn to work it by seeking out and registering Republican oriented voters ~ then we have to get them to the polls. And we need to avoid stirring up and encouraging Democrats to vote.
And a lesson concerning pro-RINO voters. They exist, and in some states they make a difference at the state office level ~ the Governor, Lt. Governor, Senators, and President! ~ they sure seem to have counted in Florida but I doubt running for Jeb Bush is the way to bring them back.
Rubio imagines that he can pick up among Hispanics ~ but I doubt that even if he could he could save his own seat. That hope went out with the Crist voting block. They won't be back!
You are correct, Jeb! is not the way to go, just look to race to the top and common core.
I have given up calling them RINO’s and just flat out call them Progressives(.). There are so very few non-Progressive Republicans these days and something is going to have to give. The only hope left is getting the dumbasses to take the Founder’s Red Pill.
or the time being, I will remain registered to the GOP, but only as a means to try and effect the outcomes on the primary side.
>>> They won’t be back!
Plus they will bleed the normal GOP base.
This bill dies in the house...Obama blames republicans, Dems win mid-terms. Next....
The previously unorganized unemployed vote will show up in the Republican column ~ and we may have over 50,000,000 voters ~ a new record for a mid-term election.
It is funny. We KNOW the “border security” provision is a lie. They didn’t enforce it last time. They starved it of money when it was legislated again during the Bush administration.
And, in any case, it doesn’t come into play until the Amnesty does. So we get inundated with yet another wave of invading barbarians. So, sign me up with the “Locos.”
Also, anyone who thinks we can’t turn the screws on illegal aliens until they self-deport is missing what the Feds are doing to us. There are times I’d self deport if I had somewhere to go...
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