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Ron Paul: Police manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspect scarier than attack
The Washington Times ^ | April 29, 2013 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 04/29/2013 5:09:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Former Rep. Ron Paul said the law enforcement that swarmed around Boston in the days following the marathon bombings was scarier than the actual terrorist attack.

“The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city,” he said on the Lew Rockwell website, Politico reported. “This unprecedented move should frighten us as much or more than the attack itself.”

The terror attacks on April 15 in Boston killed three and injured 264.

Mr. Paul, a former libertarian political candidate who served in Congress as a member of the Republican Party, said the door-to-door searches police conducted in Watertown for the bombing suspects were particularly alarming.

They reminded of a “military coup in a far off banana republic,” he said....

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1 posted on 04/29/2013 5:09:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The stupid is thick with him.


2 posted on 04/29/2013 5:11:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Agreed
3 posted on 04/29/2013 5:17:19 PM PDT by sternup
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To: mnehring

Must be thick with me too.

I agree the Police locking people in their homes and then invading those homes was scary and in violation of the Constitution.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 5:18:49 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Simply made me wonder how many latin American coups Ron Paul has been involved in ~ gotta’ be more than one.


5 posted on 04/29/2013 5:21:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Venturer

They didn’t ‘lock’ people in, it was a voluntary lock down. There was only one incident of someone’s home being ‘invaded’ after supposedly a neighbor lied about another one they didn’t like saying the suspect was in that house. It went rather smoothly.

Which does beg the question, given the circumstances, especially considering the night before they were throwing home-made bombs at the police and found more in their car, along with a massive shootout, what were they supposed to do?

I’ve seen bigger so-called ‘lock downs’ for snow and hurricanes.


6 posted on 04/29/2013 5:21:53 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: muawiyah

Well, he was implicated in an attempted White Nationalist coup in South America.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2835541/posts?page=75


7 posted on 04/29/2013 5:23:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

+1


8 posted on 04/29/2013 5:25:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: mnehring

“I’ve seen bigger so-called ‘lock downs’ for snow and hurricanes.”

Really? You’ve seen thousands of cops bused in for snow storms and hurricanes? Did they bus in military humvees for those as well?

I find it curious because I’ve lived through hurricanes and you rarely see a cop during one of those.


9 posted on 04/29/2013 5:25:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; nutmeg; AllAmericanGirl44; ...

Boston Bombing Ping!


10 posted on 04/29/2013 5:25:38 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: driftdiver

Katrina for one.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 5:26:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
I’ve seen bigger so-called ‘lock downs’ for snow and hurricanes.

I've been through a lot of hurricanes, but never seen anything like this.

12 posted on 04/29/2013 5:29:49 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand.... Please tell your dad to shut up...

Really the actually bombing and the “lock down” are really two different issues...

Both are scary for very different reasons....

I don’t think one trumps the other...


13 posted on 04/29/2013 5:29:53 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: mnehring

lol yeah, there were so many cops bused into Alabama, Mississippi, and north Florida.

The one area to receive an overage of cops also experienced the only firearm confiscation. hmmmmmm


14 posted on 04/29/2013 5:30:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: Gunslingr3

15 posted on 04/29/2013 5:31:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Carribean. Is this guy pulling a Jimmy Carter and never going away? Just think if he was yammering about something like this a few weeks ago, the terrorists might have been listening.


16 posted on 04/29/2013 5:31:43 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the scary part is that they fired about ten bajillion rounds and managed to kill a boat.


17 posted on 04/29/2013 5:33:46 PM PDT by crz
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18 posted on 04/29/2013 5:36:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow! I agree with Uncle Ron on this one.


19 posted on 04/29/2013 5:36:50 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m no RP fan (dangerous defense/foreign policy ideas) but the old man’s got a point here.


20 posted on 04/29/2013 5:37:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ron is a little wacky but he’s right on this.


21 posted on 04/29/2013 5:38:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: All

How in the crap is Paul right? Let RonPaul sacrifice one of his 8 year old grandchildren to a bomb and have 15-20 of his family get amputations......

Then see which is scarier.

He’s a wack job and you guys are on the perimeter of his insanity.


22 posted on 04/29/2013 5:42:07 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: rbmillerjr

Some of us think 9000 paramilitary to get one man is crazy.


23 posted on 04/29/2013 5:51:43 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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Ron Paul is right on this one.


24 posted on 04/29/2013 6:01:01 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: rbmillerjr

Plus the police did a great job. Although they did trample on an inalienable right or two, at least they found the guy and everything. Oh wait, a normal citizen did that for them.


25 posted on 04/29/2013 6:05:26 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: mylife

9000 is a gross exaggeration of the paramilitary involved.

Most were common police officers, few were SWAT.

I’m sure you guys have an effective way to cordon off an area about 2.5 miles in area.


26 posted on 04/29/2013 6:05:34 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: goodwithagun

Yeah, I’m sure the guy would have hid in a yard inside a boat if he wasn’t chased, shot and the area put on lockdown....

FantasyLanders for Paul.

People actually there applauded the police for getting the scum out of their neighborhood.


27 posted on 04/29/2013 6:10:10 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: rbmillerjr

You get my drift, and we disagree.
I did not like the response in Katrina either.


28 posted on 04/29/2013 6:11:30 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: rbmillerjr

What ever happened the the fellow that was roughed up striped naked and falsely arrested?

I wonder how many people had their arms taken from their homes without warrants or nothin’.


29 posted on 04/29/2013 6:14:17 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: rbmillerjr

While I’m certainly no fan of Paul, a stopped clock is right twice a day. The police had no warrants, and certainly no probable cause with which to get warrants, and were therefore committing unconstitutional acts. What is even more frightening is that since the subjects . . . err citizens. . . consented, anything the popo saw inside their homes is up for grabs. If Johnny Law noticed a suspicious gun, legal or not, he can get a warrant to go back and get it and search the house again. Ain’t giving up rights grand?


30 posted on 04/29/2013 6:15:09 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: rbmillerjr
People actually there applauded the police

Yeah, and that bugged the crap out of me. Some of us don't cotton to police states.

31 posted on 04/29/2013 6:16:02 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: rbmillerjr

Then why were so many wearing military gear and military weapons. To quote the VP they were carrying “weapons of war”.

They weren’t even hiding until their pictures were posted. Until then they went to the gym.


32 posted on 04/29/2013 6:18:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: mylife

“What ever happened the the fellow that was roughed up striped naked and falsely arrested?”

He wasn’t arrested. He was detained, questioned and released.

“I wonder how many people had their arms taken from their homes without warrants or nothin’”

Zero. And that is a fact.


33 posted on 04/29/2013 6:19:30 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: mnehring

Yeah just like Katrina when police and soldiers went door to door illegally confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens.


34 posted on 04/29/2013 6:22:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: goodwithagun

“Ain’t giving up rights grand?”

Your assertion is false. Nobody gave up their rights. The citizens had no problem with the police coming in their homes, so that the police could ensure the terrorist wasn’t hiding there or had taken hostagss.

A warrant is not required unless there is an objection to a search. Nobody demanded a warrant, so no rights were violated.

The reasonable person understood the police were there to help them and eliminate a serious threat.


35 posted on 04/29/2013 6:23:41 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: mylife; rbmillerjr

Even if the response was effective and justified the fact that people are cheering it is scary.

Add in that they knew who this guy was before the bombings and its disgusting. If they weren’t so gung ho ready to shoot people they might have looked at their records and realized they had some terrorists who lived right there.


36 posted on 04/29/2013 6:24:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Lets see, 100 cops are pointing their guns at me and want to come in hmmmmmmm

nobody gave up their rights, pffttt


37 posted on 04/29/2013 6:24:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: rbmillerjr
He wasn’t arrested. He was detained, questioned and released.

Really? What's his name? We'd all love to talk to him and get his side of the story.

38 posted on 04/29/2013 6:25:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: rbmillerjr

““I wonder how many people had their arms taken from their homes without warrants or nothin’”

Zero. And that is a fact.”

Source? I haven’t seen any public assertions of that.


39 posted on 04/29/2013 6:25:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: rbmillerjr
“What ever happened the the fellow that was roughed up striped naked and falsely arrested?” He wasn’t arrested. He was detained, questioned and released.

And you know that for a fact? You're sure he wasn't someone who was going to drive #1 and #2 to New York? You're sure?

40 posted on 04/29/2013 6:26:33 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: mylife

“Some of us don’t cotton to police states.”

Seriously, you need to stop being so paranoid. We do not live in a police state. Saying so is bastardizing the term and a disservice to people who have lived in real police states throughout history.

btw, a temporary injection of police to stop a terrorist doesn’t even fit the definition of “police state”.


41 posted on 04/29/2013 6:27:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: mnehring
"There was only one incident of someone’s home being ‘invaded’ . . . "

Maybe you should take some time to watch a few videos. In this one, there are three homes being searched with state police. In one, I counted seven or more, dressed in army gear with automatic weapons, going into a house. Here is that video:

House searches in Boston 1

This next video has all of the people in the house evacuated at gunpoint. I would have been worried about that police dog wanting to take a bite:

House Searches in Boston 2

Again, lots of homes were searched and people evacuated. This shows how compliant the Boston citizens were even though their 4th Amendment rights were being trampled:

House Searches in Boston 3

There are more video about the searches if you want to take the time.

The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

42 posted on 04/29/2013 6:27:34 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

So why take all the non-19 yr old males out at gun point?

Seriously what is the purpose of that?


43 posted on 04/29/2013 6:30:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: rbmillerjr

People in Tx would never tolerate what the folks in Ma do.
And all you folks that love to give up your rights to feel safe and warm, are slowly eroding the rights of the rest of the Nation.

You under estimate yourselves as citizens.


44 posted on 04/29/2013 6:32:07 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: driftdiver

“Even if the response was effective and justified the fact that people are cheering it is scary.”

Interesting. It’s justified and effective, but the potential victims who are no longer threatened....cheering scares you.


45 posted on 04/29/2013 6:32:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: rbmillerjr

They can call it “Shelter in place”, but it was martial law.


46 posted on 04/29/2013 6:33:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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To: driftdiver

The entire action has to be a procedure they have been trained to perform. This tells me there is work being done to take down any kind of civil disturbance. The methods you see are the work of that preparation.


47 posted on 04/29/2013 6:34:33 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Interesting. It’s justified and effective, but the potential victims who are no longer threatened....cheering scares you.”

No, out of control law enforcement hopped up on steroids and donuts scare me. Especially when they have weapons of war and carte blanche to do any damn thing they want.


48 posted on 04/29/2013 6:34:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“I wonder how many people had their arms taken from their homes without warrants or nothin’”

Zero. And that is a fact.”


“”Source? I haven’t seen any public assertions of that.””

Why do I have to disprove your fantasies? If you have evidence to support your assertion...provide it.


49 posted on 04/29/2013 6:36:04 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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Bingo.


50 posted on 04/29/2013 6:36:24 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50¢)
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