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Democratic strategist: Party 'in decline'
The Politico ^ | May 10, 2013 | James S. Hohmann

Posted on 05/10/2013 7:46:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One of the Democrats’ most veteran strategists warns that the party is “in decline” and “at considerable risk” when President Barack Obama is no longer on the scene.

“Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.

While Republican branding problems get the lion’s share of attention, the Democratic Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15 points since Obama took power. A Pew Research Center survey this January showed that the Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47 percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan. 2009.

With the likelihood of gridlock and near-record-low confidence in public institutions, Sosnik expects 2014 to bring the fourth change election in the past eight years....

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016; 2016election; democrats; dougsosnik; election2014; election2016; hillary; obama

1 posted on 05/10/2013 7:46:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait until 2014... :-)


2 posted on 05/10/2013 7:47:19 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “party” is in the sewer ... has been for a while


3 posted on 05/10/2013 7:48:08 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the Rat party may be in decline, but at least they’ve taken the country down with them. So it’s not a total loss, from their perspective.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 7:48:24 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How can it be in decline? So many GOP pols are joining them this guy’s numbers are skewed. The D’s may be down in number but the liberalization of the Rs made up for it and more.


5 posted on 05/10/2013 7:50:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Romney was a big mistake.

We need to go the other direction next time.

McCain. Romney: all were quite liberal Republicans.

We need to move right.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 7:53:40 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.

We should be focusing on cities. Cities run by democrats for decades are wastelands ripe for republicans with a message of good government. New York under Guiliani was a Renaissance city compared to Detroit. Cities will be under a lot of pressure for bad choices in the past with extravagant pensions to city employees. We can pick up more cities than in a generation

7 posted on 05/10/2013 7:54:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yup.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 7:55:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yeah right!
The Republican Party isn’t in such hot shape.
We need a rebirth.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 7:55:11 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Party identification has been declining for both parties for a considerable time. The “block” voter who votes the straight GOP or Dem ticket has been on the wane for awhile now.

But the Democrats need not worry. They have been ratcheting up their vote fraud apparatus for many years now with same-day registration, vote-by-mail, failure to purge voter roles, encouraging felons, illegals and the mentally ill to vote or have a Dem operative vote for them, etc.

I have no doubts the Dem party will survive Obama as strong as ever because the Dems know you don’t need a real living, breathing, thinking voter to vote for them as long as the Dems control who counts the votes.


10 posted on 05/10/2013 7:56:05 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What difference does it make?

They will just find more dead voters and steal more elections.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 8:01:11 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“How can it be in decline? So many GOP pols are joining them this guy’s numbers are skewed. The D’s may be down in number but the liberalization of the Rs made up for it and more.”

Please read my tagline. Pubbies are collectivists at heart, too, and are doing their best to prop up their buddy Dems.

Collectivism has been a sinking ship for a number of decades. I expect to see both Leftist parties disappear in the not too distand future.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 8:02:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A few months ago it was the Republican Party which was on the verge of disappearing.

If Hillary is seriously tainted by Benghazi-gate, or for some other reason is not a viable nominee in 2016, whom do the 'Rats have to offer? Michelle Obama? Joe Biden? Cuomo? Fauxcahontas? They don't have a very strong bench--the primaries could be another case of "the Seven Dwarfs" (except that the MSM would try to turn the survivor into a combination of FDR and JFK).

13 posted on 05/10/2013 8:04:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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14 posted on 05/10/2013 8:06:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s good to see the GOP doing well in state and local, but the GOPe is doing everything possible to keep the Democrats in power.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 8:07:16 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Oh I totally agree. I just more people would take your post to heart. Because it’s the truth.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 8:10:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The good news is that both parties are in decline.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 8:26:38 PM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: EricT.

Exactly. It’s the government that’s in decline. Both parties are hopelessly and irrevocably obselete.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 8:37:50 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

people here find it hard to swallow the Democrats version of European Socialism nor Obama’s communism....

Try as they have the media can’t get away with hiding the Democrat agenda forever.....


19 posted on 05/10/2013 8:38:56 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ain’t that the truth!


20 posted on 05/10/2013 8:39:34 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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To: freekitty

It may be hard for people to understand, but Hillary is to the left of Obama and lacks his moral restraint./s


21 posted on 05/10/2013 8:42:25 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And here I was thinking the whole country has decided Communism is just peachy.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 8:52:48 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When a party blindly follows an incompetent fraudulent leader who is illegally in the White House and making stupid decisions of course their ratings go down.

If he were white he would already be gone.
His black side is the only thing keeping him there.
Blacks will vote for Obama if he was one of the Boston Bombers. Abortion loving women the same and of course the Hispanics.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 9:05:36 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Spot on, but the only conservatives who can take on a city would be disparaged as RINOs here. Chicago is ripe for a take over.


24 posted on 05/11/2013 4:07:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, there is no “democrat” party per say. It’s the socialist party now.


25 posted on 05/11/2013 4:54:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It’s happening as we speak but it takes time.


26 posted on 05/11/2013 5:05:00 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
...warns that the party is “in decline” and "at considerable risk” when President Barack Obama is no longer on the scene."Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.
IOW, it's a nonsequitur -- Zero has been detrimental to the Demagogic Party's prospects.


27 posted on 05/11/2013 9:11:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.

Strange how suck-ups on "Meet the Press' aren't lamenting this - asking Republicans for suggestions on what dems could do to save their worthless hides...

I love all that fake 'oh so concerned' crap Liberals say when giving suggestions to Republicans...

28 posted on 05/11/2013 9:26:16 AM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by Eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the millions of illegals home.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Marcella; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Sun; ntnychik; editor-surveyor; little jeremiah; ..
It really doesn't matter how far in decline the 'Rat Party is, nor does it matter how unpopular their positions on the issues are, if they can make up for their lack of real strength at the polls with massive fraud and cheating in the elections, as Obama very well could have done in 2012.

Without reasonably fair and honest elections, nothing much else in politics matters!!!

Now if the 'Rat Party is so much in decline, it would appear that now is the time to push hard for repeal of the signature program of the Obama administration - Obamacare - before it really kicks in to destroy our economy and health next January. The Obamatons seem to be giving off signals that it's in trouble, so let's not let up with our charge to get rid of it. We'll never know if repeal can be done unless we make an all-out effort!

29 posted on 05/11/2013 10:33:50 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 1010RD
Spot on, but the only conservatives who can take on a city would be disparaged as RINOs here. Chicago is ripe for a take over.

We need to better appreciate the tenth amendment and the principle of subsidiarity. I would never support a RINO on the federal side of the equation, but states and local governments are on the other side of the tenth amendment. If citizens want a larger government with more services at the city level, there is no reason a republican can't respond to that. What republicans should run on at the local level is good, effective government that is less corrupt. Whether at the federal or local level, we still need to be the more socially conservative though.

I am looking at cities like Detroit. If we can win back the rust belt and turn it around, we can win the cities all across the country and knock the democrats out of their power bases. Conditions are aligning to be better for us right now than in generations, as democrats have run cities into bankruptcy all over the country.

30 posted on 05/11/2013 10:53:51 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A race to the bottom! I think the Republicans are winning....


31 posted on 05/11/2013 10:55:18 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: justiceseeker93

More good news for the sleaze in our WH:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/05/m-hhs_secretary_sebelius_using_donations_to_defy_congress_on_obamacare_implementation.html


32 posted on 05/11/2013 10:59:54 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: justiceseeker93
I know how Hussein took Ohio. A woman who used to be a family member of mine, was in charge of Ohio to deliver the vote to Hussein. I saw a picture of this woman hugged up to Biden during a trip Biden made to Ohio. This woman is extremely bright and could build a computer from scratch and write the software for it. She left her home, and lived in Ohio during this period. She organized workers in Ohio and set up the system they used to get voters to the polls.

Republicans need a bright person in every state who can do the same. I recall Republicans from Texas went by bus to Iowa just before that state caucus to “help out”. That was too late. A director needs to be chosen for each state and the qualification should NOT be because he/she is a good friend of someone. A director needs to have extensive computer skills and, yes, know how to do community organizing and teach others who work that state, that skill. I saw it work in Ohio due to a talented person making it happen.

33 posted on 05/11/2013 11:09:41 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
We should be focusing on cities. Cities run by democrats for decades are wastelands ripe for republicans with a message of good government. New York under Guiliani was a Renaissance city compared to Detroit. Cities will be under a lot of pressure for bad choices in the past with extravagant pensions to city employees. We can pick up more cities than in a generation

Detroit cannot be taken by Republicans. When a voting majority of the population are dependent upon government handouts, they WILL vote for the party that promises to continue the goodies, and WILL NOT vote for the party that they suspect will end the gravy train.

In such a situation, the only solution is for the state (assuming it's not too far gone as well) to just let the city collapse into bankruptcy, appoint an emergency manager, and end all the practices that keep the parasites on the host.

34 posted on 05/11/2013 11:14:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Exactly! That’s why the Cloward-Piven Plan to destroy the US from within contained 2 major legal planks: Motor Voter to destroy the integrity of elections, and Community Reinvestment Act to destroy the integrity of the financial system. Those are the only legal actions Barack Obama used his Saudi-funded and Ayers-supported Harvard law degree for. Obviously they consider it critical to the plan.

And it is. They can do anything they want if they can steal elections. The whole system of accountability is gone, and absolute power means absolute corruption.

We have GOT to take this seriously and do something about it, or there is no coming back for America.


35 posted on 05/11/2013 11:54:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What people fail to understand is the progressive left will not need a baseline party like the Democrat party as soon as they are done transforming the underclass poor into a political class....much like Chavez Venezuela have the poor political class that have enought votes to turn every election...

We are a cycle or two away from that reality. ..

36 posted on 05/11/2013 12:03:23 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: PapaBear3625
When a voting majority of the population are dependent upon government handouts, they WILL vote for the party that promises to continue the goodies, and WILL NOT vote for the party that they suspect will end the gravy train. In such a situation, the only solution is for the state (assuming it's not too far gone as well) to just let the city collapse into bankruptcy, appoint an emergency manager, and end all the practices that keep the parasites on the host.

What you are saying is that the problem will fix itself, and I am saying we can capitalize on it. Local governments can't print money, they have to live in reality. They are running out of other people's money, and if we demonstrate, like Governor Perry in Texas, like mayor Guliani in New York , that we govern prudently and effectively, we can offer an alternative to the forty year decline. The gravy train MUST end eventually, and not too far from now. If we are ready, we can capitalize on it.

37 posted on 05/11/2013 12:53:05 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

What we need to do, is bring back US jobs.

Stop sending jobs elsewhere, then spending all our money supporting people who do not have jobs.

STOP IMPORTING EVERYTHING.


38 posted on 05/11/2013 12:54:40 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Verginius Rufus

The news media will bring forth some unknown person and annoint him/her as the “one” just like they did with Obama, because they knew Hillary couldn’t win.

Everyone keeps talking about Hillary being the strong candidate for the next Dem Nominee, but I see no evidence that she actually improved her likability or her ability to be elected. Too many people just don’t like her.


39 posted on 05/11/2013 1:11:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; ml/nj; sheik yerbouty; nikos1121; AJFavish; theothercheek; Ravi; jesseam; ...
This Sebelius project (see link in post # 32) is an impeachable offense!!!

Wonder if Boehner and friends will take notice of it and charge her with articles of impeachment. She's dissing Congress in a most blatantly extraconstitutional way!

40 posted on 05/11/2013 2:48:06 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Marcella; All
This woman is extremely bright and could build a computer from scratch and write the software for it. She left her home, and lived in Ohio during this period. She organized workers in Ohio and set up the system they used to get voters to the polls.

Yes, 'rats could use computers in a legitimate way to help get voters to the polls. But I suspect that they did more than that in the swing states, like blatant hacking of the vulnerable computer systems (touch screen or optical scamming) that are used to vote with and to tally votes. From what I hear from a professional in computer science, this type of cheating is very doable and distorts vote counts much more than the more "traditional" kinds of cheating (that is, more bang for the effort, from the sleazebag's point of view). In that way, cheating and fraud could well have had a much larger impact on the reported results of the election than ever before. And it could well account for the fact the Obama did uniformly better in the reported results as compared to pre-election polls in all swing states. It's not the pollsters who did a bad job in their polling, it's just that you can't account for cheating and fraud when you prognosticate elections based on your polling.

The most obvious evidence of cheating, now that you mention Ohio, was the complete "shutouts" reported in some predominantly black districts in Cleveland. There is no way any major candidate for president can get zero votes in any sizable election district in a free and fair election. I can see the Romney vote in single-digit percentages in a lot of these districts, but Zero votes? No way that happens unless the vote totals are rigged.

Certainly, some of the Clinton-era "innovations" in voting procedure aid and abet the cheaters, especially early voting (or multiple-day voting). A cunning operative can register himself or others at multiple sites and take busloads to different locations over the lengthy polling period so that they vote multiple times. Early voting should be repealed everywhere it exists. We have to insist that election law emphasizes honesty and integrity over convenience!

41 posted on 05/11/2013 3:25:44 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: OrangeHoof; Marcella; ExTexasRedhead; randita; Political Junkie Too; Impy; InterceptPoint; ...
But the Democrats need not worry. They have been ratcheting up their vote fraud apparatus for many years now with same-day registration, vote-by-mail, failure to purge voter roles, encouraging felons, illegals and the mentally ill to vote or have a Dem operative vote for them, etc.

I have no doubts the Dem party will survive Obama as strong as ever because the Dems know you don’t need a real living, breathing, thinking voter to vote for them as long as the Dems control who counts the votes.

You are right on target, OrangeHoof, but their is one other and even more overwhelming weapon in the 'Rat election cheating and fraud arsenal. That is the capability of hacking into electronic voting systems, particularly optical scanning and touch screens, to distort results in their favor.

Judging from the discrepancies in the same direction between final polls and reported election results in all the swing states, it would appear as if the 'Rat dirty work may well have been decisive in the Obama vs. Romney contest nationally. In other words, had the election been held on the level everywhere in the country last November, Mitt Romney might be the POTUS today.

42 posted on 05/11/2013 3:52:52 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ExTexasRedhead

BTTT!


43 posted on 05/11/2013 5:22:04 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ahem....

"All warfare is based on deception. Therefore, when capable, feign incapacity; when active, inactivity. When near, make it appear that you are far away; When far away that you are near. Offer the enemy a bait to lure him; feign disorder and strike him. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War. c.400-320 b.c."

44 posted on 05/11/2013 5:33:23 PM PDT by IrishPennant (All warfare is based on deception.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 05/11/2013 9:47:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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