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Ted Cruz against the world: Senatorís feud w/McCain reveals arrogance-and continuing crackup of GOP
Salon ^ | May 24, 2013 | Joan Walsh

Posted on 05/24/2013 12:13:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One bonus for Republicans in the trifecta of pseudo-scandals ensnaring the Obama White House this month is that it distracted the party from its looming civil war. It’s even possible that the Senate immigration reform got as far as it did partly because wingnut radio talkers and Tea Party xenophobes were consumed by their hatred of Obama, and paying less attention to GOP immigration sellouts.

But with the easing of scandal fever on the Potomac, Republicans are back to fighting one another, and the week-long Senate clash between freshman Sen. Ted Cruz and Sen. John McCain over the budget is exposing the yawning gulf within the party once again.

Now that the GOP-dominated House and Democratic-led Senate have passed very different budgets, McCain has tried to argue for the formation of a conference committee that would try to reconcile the two. That might be a thankless, impossible task nowadays, but it’s nonetheless the way Congress has always worked. Democrats agree with McCain, and so do most Republicans.

But Cruz was having none of it, because he insisted sneaky Democrats might use the committee to raise the debt ceiling. He got support from Tea Party allies Mike Lee and Rand Paul, as well as Marco Rubio (trying to claw back the Tea Party credibility he lost by working on immigration reform). McCain reminded Cruz and his friends that their party controls the House.....

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TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: democrats; juanmcstain; liberalidiots; mccain; salon; squishes
The fact that Über-Leftie Joan Walsh takes McCain's side tells you everything, doesn't it?
1 posted on 05/24/2013 12:13:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Marshall McVain! We’ve had it with Vichy Republicans. Real Senators like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are here to lead now.


2 posted on 05/24/2013 12:16:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain continues to show his true colors. Why do people in Arizona continue to vote for this guy?


3 posted on 05/24/2013 12:18:56 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: Vigilanteman

It’s not Cruz against the world. However, it might be Cruz and the majority of we Texans against the world. But, that’s ok :)


4 posted on 05/24/2013 12:20:58 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain is either a democrat insider or is a democrat and doesn't know it. He tells everyone what they should think, do,....just like dems. I think the conservatives and rinos need to have it out once and for all. We will not put up with the cheating, lying, stealing that went on in the past. They are not going to pull the base (70% conservative) to the left. THEY need us, we don't need them. We will go third party. I already wrote to them and let them know we won't put up with it any longer.
5 posted on 05/24/2013 12:23:20 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many lefty concern trolls lately....all wanting to give th Repubs advise.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 12:24:30 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mclame has NEVER had another senator stand up to him, like Cruz
has done.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 12:24:34 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stopped reading midway through the first sentence. Leftists are truly dishonest.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 12:28:38 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: popdonnelly

to the core they are dishonest

they even lie to themselves


9 posted on 05/24/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: snoringbear
we Texans against the world. But, that’s ok :)

I don't think anyone of us realized how much an upgrade this was versus KBH. I hope Ted keeps sticking in McCain's eye.

10 posted on 05/24/2013 12:29:18 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
On another thread today, McCain is quoted as making disparaging remarks about both Senators Cruz and Lee--men who do understand their Constitution's limits on coercive government power.

Those who, like John McCain, have held "office" in government for extended periods become too occupied with the trappings and habits of office than with the great principles of freedom their "office" was designed to protect and defend.

Note, please, Edmund Burke on the effect of "office" on a government official:

". . . it may be truly said, that men too much conversant with office are rarely minds of remarkable enlargement. Their habits of office are apt to give them a turn to think the substance of business not to be much more important than the forms in which it is conducted. These forms are adapted to ordinary occasions; and therefore persons who are nurtured in office do admirably well as long as things go on in their common order; but when the high roads are broken up, and the waters out, when a new and troubled scene is opened, and the file affords no precedent, then it is that a greater knowledge of mankind, and a far more extensive comprehension of things, is requisite, than ever office gave, or than office can ever give." - Speech of Edmund Burke, Esq., on American Taxation April 19, 1774 [Second Edition. Dodsley, 1775.] here.

Now that a new generation of thinkers, men and women who have utilized new technologies to read the great literature of liberty surrounding the Declaration of Independence, the American Revolution, and the framing of "the People's" Constitution for limiting their government, the old guard, like McCain, who merely sought "office" and perpetuated themselves in that office are understandably without a clue as to how to respond to discussions of principles and ideas.

It is up to us, the citizens of America, to join the new guard who understand that there are ideas too essential to liberty to be traded away in the kind of "habits of office" (Burke) McCain refers to in his sniping, ". . . maybe the senator from Utah ought to learn a little bit more about how business has been done in the Congress of the United States.”

Now, "when the high roads are broken up, and the waters out, when a new and troubled scene is opened, and the file affords no precedent," is the time for statesmen whose minds are focused on first principles and how to preserve liberty for future generations.

Senators Lee and Cruz, please attend to Burke's wisdom, for it is high time for "a greater knowledge of mankind, and a far more extensive comprehension of things. . . than ever office gave, or than office can ever give." McCain's focus on a "legacy" for this Congress and for President Obama reflects a small mind focused on "office"--not a "greater knowledge" of the sad history of civilization's struggle for liberty.

11 posted on 05/24/2013 12:30:17 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The so-called civil war in the Republican Party is the most significant political fracas in Washington. That is the only constest that has a chance of pulling the USA back from immediate cultural and political collapse into the communist abyss. If conservatives ultimately win that one and the Republicanb Parth becomes the Conservative Party in substance if not in name then we can get a handle on it. If conservatives cannot win that one then the rest of the fights now going on don’t much matter to the direction of the country.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 12:31:20 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if he speaks or not but Ted Cruz just posted to twitter.

Senator Ted Cruz @SenTedCruz 18m

Was privileged to join Hillsdale College for their commencement. Watch the address tonight on CSPAN around 7:25 CT. http://www.c-span.org


13 posted on 05/24/2013 12:31:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: catfish1957

If Ted keeps sticking it in Mclame’s eye, Mclame will be pissing in his
Depends diaper everyday.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 12:35:13 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is how the libtards give off the scent of fear.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 12:35:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: loveliberty2

What I understand is Cruz is incredibly bright and quick witted. McQueeg will be outmatched, and will go even more ballistic after being embarrassed.


16 posted on 05/24/2013 12:37:36 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Arrogance?

How about the arrogance on display from the parade of IRS people in front of a Congressional committee?

How about the arrogance of Zero when he says things like, "Let me be perfectly clear...", meaning, "Listen here, dude, I'm about to lie through my teeth and everyone here is gonna' pretend like it's the gospel truth."?

How about the arrogance of AG Holder when he whines and cries in front of Issa when Issa calls him on something?

Libs know they can get away with their arrogance because the "news" media cover for them, making them act even bolder in their high-mindedness.

I think Cruz feuding with McCain is a good thing. The "old guys" in the GOP need to know we are through acting like a minority party and it's time to stop kissing the Dem's and the media's a$$es trying to make nice with them. I say we take Zero's advice and get in their faces, say what we want to say on TV no matter what the stupid question was from the stupid liberal reporter. Take the fight to them. Now.

17 posted on 05/24/2013 12:37:47 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: snoringbear

Don’t forget the Albertans who would hop in on that heh.

God bless Ted Cruz and watch over and guide him.


18 posted on 05/24/2013 12:38:03 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This type of commentary will be churned out by the news media as the flames beginning to consume the Obama White House burn brighter. Joan Walsh and the Left are in a panic.

Ted Cruz is a conservative icon who has risen to power quickly despite the slings and arrows of a corrupt news media and establishment Republicans. McCain’s dwindling power has always come from people like Walsh who say if all the GOP could be like McCain we could form one harmonious national party.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 12:40:03 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually all the GOP has to do is to get the Reagan Democrats to vote for them again and that will include the ethnics. But including working people in the GOP is against their religion today. It is better to lose than to get 'them' in. The GOP needs purity in free trade and some kind of 'Fair Tax' [wink, wink].
20 posted on 05/24/2013 12:41:01 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

LOL- joan walsh is the same left wing bozo who tweeted last week both the benghazi and IRS scandals were “withering”....


21 posted on 05/24/2013 12:52:39 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

If it is Ted Cruz against the world, then I am with Ted.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 12:53:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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23 posted on 05/24/2013 1:02:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Cruz was having none of it, because he insisted sneaky Democrats might use the committee to raise the debt ceiling.

It isn't like the Dems have a history of promise-breaking and treachery....oh, wait.

24 posted on 05/24/2013 1:10:35 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GeronL; All

the same left wing losers who refer to Ted Cruz as “arrogant” gave Allan Grayson of Florida a standing ovation when he was a freshman congressman....


25 posted on 05/24/2013 1:10:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Durbin

“Why do people in Arizona continue to vote for this guy?”

Because they are “good” Republicans of the “country club” variety, Californian exiles, and Latin American immigrants.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 1:12:33 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senator John McCain was a member of a financial scam team called The Keating Five. The operation affected millions of people losing their money.

They were never jailed for this thievery.

Senator John McCain, POW, etc., did serve his country with all the devotion that he had. However, he has repeatedly voted “No” on any bill providing more assistance, or medical care for other U.S. veterans.

I believe that Senator McCain is attempting to follow in the steps of the last life-long-served-in-the-well, the deceased Senator Robert Byrd. But it doesn’t work for him, because he is just plain arrogant, and not listening to his constituency, or the Will Of The People.

He needs to be removed from office, as showing all the signs of mental incompetence.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 1:27:07 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: GeronL

“I’m with Ted” ... a bumper sticker..


28 posted on 05/24/2013 1:32:12 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Durbin

They are as senile as he is.


29 posted on 05/24/2013 1:33:15 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is dead. Let's not pretend otherwise.)
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To: lonestar

hopefully not left over from MA


30 posted on 05/24/2013 1:38:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: catfish1957

Now we need to get rid of Cornyn but that’s going to be more difficult than getting rid of Kay Bailey. He has a huge war chest and with election on the horizon he is now talking the talk, albeit somewhat forced by Cruz. Given the fact that most people have a short memory, Texans will need to be reminded of his liberal leanings in the past.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 1:51:24 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What a crock. Reid and McCain were not collegial in their frequent and gratuitously nasty comments and conduct toward Cruz and other Tea Party conservatives. Now, with Cruz and his allies jamming the Senate's procedural gears, Reid and McCain lack any credible basis on which to advance pious claims for "collegiality."

More important, in blocking a conference committee, Cruz's strategy seems to be to give the Senate (and Obama) the choice of accepting the more conservative House budget bill or letting the federal government go into shut down. This is gutsy political hardball that emasculates the Senate leadership and Appropriations Committee with their routine corruptions. Kudos to Cruz and his allies.

32 posted on 05/24/2013 1:52:29 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Grams A

Cornyns ears are probably still burning after the letter I sent him on the TARP vote.


33 posted on 05/24/2013 2:11:15 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz Missle.


34 posted on 05/24/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain has always been the MAnchurian Candidate.

Here we are, with the fate of the Republic on the line, and the Dems are laughing themselves silly over intraparty fighting.

Way to go, McLame!


35 posted on 05/24/2013 2:49:22 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[[because wingnut radio talkers and Tea Party xenophobes were consumed by their hatred of Obama,]]

Isn’t that cute? A wingnut leftie rantign abotu thsoeo n the right- Gee- there aren’t many wingnut lefties ranting abotu hte right these days- oh wait- yes thee are-

Someone actually pays this partisan hack?


36 posted on 05/24/2013 2:53:36 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: catfish1957

Cornyns ears are probably still burning after the letter I sent him on the TARP vote.”

Wish that were true. One of our Congressmen’s staffers said he knows people that work for Cornyn and he NEVER reads anything sent to him. He is given summary review once a month but staffers answer all the queries and comments.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons I received a response related to tax increases when the letter I sent via his form and by fax was about his decision to let Murkowski keep her old Committee appointments.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 3:07:33 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is a poopyhead. He needs to be flushed.


38 posted on 05/24/2013 3:09:50 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: jeffc

I agree with your assessment 100%....a great analogy is the old silver back gorilla being challenged by the youngster...John old boy....you’re fixing to lose. Cruz is the real deal! Maybe not today but real soon....


39 posted on 05/24/2013 3:15:28 PM PDT by StraysDaddy
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To: Terry L Smith; All

can anyone confirm if mccain was able to gain adminttance into the military accademy because of his connections? that he bumped a more qualified candidate out so he could get in?


40 posted on 05/24/2013 3:24:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right....if I want to find out what’s happening with the GOP I’m gonna ask salon.


41 posted on 05/24/2013 4:02:01 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Vigilanteman

My son and I just returned from D.C. Being from Texas we asked Senator Cruz for Senate Gallery passes. When we picked up our passes, we had the honor of meeting Senator Cruz. As we were leaving, my son looked at the Senator and said two things:

1. Sir, you are doing a great job.
2. The senate needs more people like you.

I was floored. Here is an 18 year old that said that. But he is correct. Cruz is doing a great job and we do need more like him.


42 posted on 05/24/2013 4:41:19 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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43 posted on 05/24/2013 6:31:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: drinktheobamakoolaid
Good for your boy! The pressures on freshman congressman and senators to go native are enormous. It never hurts to remind them who sent them to Washington even if you think they have the spine not to go native.

My sister and several of her college classmates worked their hearts out to get Orrin Hatch get elected to the U.S. Senate back in 1976. For his first two terms or so, he was the solid conservative firebrand whom they sent to Washington. After that, the record sort of speaks for itself.

44 posted on 05/24/2013 8:30:05 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Durbin

Well, in the last election he had over 20 million reasons why they voted for him.


45 posted on 05/28/2013 5:41:30 AM PDT by House Atreides
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