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Sarah Palin and a new American Party
Nolan Chart ^ | July 23, 2013 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 07/23/2013 9:33:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"Not until I went to the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Alexis d’ Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835

The inspiration for this article occurred while reading "What about a third party candidate" by Rachel Lynn Robinson on Nolan Chart, www.nolanchart.com. Ms. Robinson, a Libertarian, asks: "Is it reasonable to elect a third party candidate simply based on their stance on a few key items?"

Ms. Robinson writes a good article, and offers an alternative to a third party, the redesign of the GOP. She asks, how could we win a national election with a new party, if we don't have the strength to re-invent the Republican Party? So in the end her solution is infighting within the GOP. Unfortunately, we have been doing that since Ronald Reagan, and it has resulted in chaos in America and the election and re-election of a neophyte lightweight Barack Obama.

First, let's make clear we don't need a new third party, we need a new second party. Difference? What faces the United States is not about one or two, or three issues where we are headed in the wrong direction. This is not about dissatisfaction by groups of single issue voters. This is about what the United States is, how it will conduct itself in the Post-Cold War World, and whether it has the heart to sustain the most successful national model in history!

America is in chaos. It starts with God. It starts with the rise of secular humanism and the removal of God from the center of our nation. This process started before the American Civil War, but clearly accelerated in the 1950's to today. Any new national party wanting to offer America salvation as a nation must start with inviting God into the Big Tent. If the tent ain't big enough for God, the rest is a waste of time.

Christianity was the foundation of colonies, it was their inspiration, it was what brought the first settlers to America. The "Mayflower Compact," designed and accepted on the Mayflower before the 102 settlers set foot on America's coast is seen by historians as the seed for what became the American model of governance. And in that compact God sits majestically. There is no subtlety about His presence in that document. Even today's political correct morons could not convice you that God is only referred to. No, He is there in all His glory to commence the creation of the nation we live in today.

The new American Party must humble itself before God. The people of America must NOT make the mistakes of Israel and other nations. It is time to bow, time to repent as a nation. It is time to ask God for His "guidance and protection" as the people of the South did in their 1861 Constitution. The new American Party must accept Christianity as it's compass, it must provide the direction for domestic and foreign policy or everything else attempted by America will result in the same ends as all other nations.

Yet, there is much more the new American Party must do. It must re-assess the modern world and our nation's place in it.

America must re-acquaint itself with the concept of republic. The Constitution was not an "enabling" document. It was a protecting document. The Constitution was an attempt to design a central government limited, or restrained, to only those things a central government must do. The original concept was to allow each of the states to retain as much control of its domestic development as possible. This concept allowed for both diversity and experimentation, while allowing states to retain much of their own identity and sovereignty This should be the second foundation of the American party.

The third foundation should be nationalism, and a new national economic self-sufficiency. America must retake its own markets. This does require policies and action at the central government level, as stimulus to American business entrepreneurship, industrial ingenuity and creativity and the American work ethic. It requires domestic oil and gas exploration, development production, something Governor Palin is quite familiar with. Liz Cheney recently articulated the very concept of development of our own energy reserves. By doing this, we could separate ourselves from the world market, employ millions of our own people in good paying jobs and create the economic foundation for a renaissance in U.S. industry and manufacturing.

Trade should be used as a tool, not as a give away principle that has reduced America to third world status.

And lastly, we must find our place in the world.

We are no longer the leader of the Free World. That battle has subsided for a time. No we are just one of more than two hundred nations trying to make our way. Our foreign policy must not only meet our national security needs, and our hopes and aspirations but it must be within our means.

I am not a Liz Cheney supporter (yet). To be one, I would have to know where she stands on question of morality. Her father disappointed me with his embrace of homosexuality. This violates Christianity, the sanctity of God and His natural law. But Liz Cheney is absolutely right about the economic potential of the United States. We could enter a new era of prosperity were this nation's policies shifted towards self-sufficiency.

A new second party, the American Party is the answer, it is the political locale where our nation can be reborn unto itself. No, this can't happen in the Republican Party. It's corruption is too widespread, it's infestation by special interests, American and non-American, too deep. And there is a "royalty" within the Republican Party that defies the basic concept of America, that all men are created equal. No, we need an American Party and Sara Palin bests reflects that party.


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1 posted on 07/23/2013 9:33:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We do need a second party in this country


2 posted on 07/23/2013 9:39:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cannot argue with the premiss or the conclusions.

Without God and a Righteous Cause being a foundation, anything we do is moot - even Franklin noted that fact in the Convention.

But also - there is no working within the existing system. It is corrupted and rotten beyond fixing. A reset is required - and those in power are not going to give up their station without a bloody fight.

In fact, I think just about everyone in power now, would rather see this nation turned to ash than to lose their power in subjugating us.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 9:39:38 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd vote for a third-party conservative over a proven RINO at the drop of a hat. Let the liberals split their vote.
4 posted on 07/23/2013 9:40:01 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is time to ask God for His "guidance and protection" as the people of the South did in their 1861 Constitution.

Klan kook

5 posted on 07/23/2013 9:42:13 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I want a new "Conservative Party", and push the Gelding Old Party to third party status. After all the GOP today is nothing more than RAT-Lite.

The new power triangle (OBama and McCain)
6 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:08 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>" It starts with the rise of secular humanism and the removal of God from the center of our nation."

For fifty years we turned out back to God!

Is it any wonder we are going thru Hell now?

7 posted on 07/23/2013 9:45:13 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah’s the only one that could pull off a third party run ... I just don’t know if she could win.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 9:50:58 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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The current GOP is not performing its role or duty as an “opposition” party. Cavings, capitulations, etc., on virtually all issues from fiscal cliffs to amnesty to NSA data-mining. No fiscal conservatism. Runs from social conservatism like the plague. Behaves like a scared rabbit before the media.

If Palin spearheads or joins with a new Party, I’ll go with her at the drop of a hat. Although I’ve voted exclusively GOP my whole life, I’m more than ready to bolt. And a lot of this actually has to do with the GOP’s lousy, reprehensible treatment of Palin. The best thing to happen to the Party since Reagan, the one person to come along who fully represents my voice both ideologically and culturally... and what did the GOP do to defend her when the media went on its vile rampage against her? When her church was torched? When her kids and family were dragged through the mud? When comedians made rape-jokes about her daughter? When the media accused her of complicity in the Tucson mass-murder? When Hollywood spent millions on a film to smear her? When ludicrous books of lies accused her of basically being a crack-whore? What does the GOP do? Dump on her. Join in with the media wilding. Not even allow her or her name anywhere near the 2012 Romney-Ryan convention. To hell with them!

Man, but I lost every tiny bit of faith, respect and confidence I once had for the Republican Party. The GOP really turns my stomach nowadays.


9 posted on 07/23/2013 9:58:54 PM PDT by greene66
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To: BradyLS

Things got to change. That is clear. The Progressive Obama revolution has failed and must be chucked. The GOP has proven to be a weak vessel. I said—if the GOP couldn’t beat Obama in 2012 they need to be dumped upon the asheap of history. 3rd Party is the only way— Here is why!
1. A 3rd Party will force the GOP to make changes—If they see that a new movement is taking the wind from there sails. they will move right—as they did with Reagan.
2. A 3rd Party can express new ideas and take un-PC stands that challange the set norms of the body politic. They are not limited by the past—
3. A 3rd Party can draw new people into the political system that can bring new ideas and beliefs—such as a return to Christian Values and conservative beliefs.
4. A 3rd Party can re-stimulate debate on the direction of the nation—I had hoped the Tea Party would be this force until it was strangled by the Liberals, IRS, Media and the GOP who wished to just use it.
5. Only a 3rd Party can cause this re-alinement—but it must be more than a Ross Perot ego trip—it must be a full blown movenment with flags, banners, goals, philosophy, mascots, and songs. It needs to bring in new people (Ross Perot did a bit of that—look at Pat Bucannan and Jessie Ventura but it didn’t go far enough.
6. Only a 3rd Party—outside of the tired Establishment can do this—Now once the 3rd Party pushs the GOP to the right—it can wither away OR cause the GOP to wither and replace it.


10 posted on 07/23/2013 10:01:19 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: BradyLS

While that sounds good, liberals will NEVER split their vote. If we do, then we can be sure that another radical, liberal Democrat will be elected and we’ll find ourselves griping and complaining for another 7 1/2 years.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 10:13:43 PM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.

de Tocqueville never wrote that.

12 posted on 07/23/2013 10:29:57 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Is it reasonable to elect a third party candidate simply based on their stance on a few key items?”

IMHO, if the key issues are restricting government to the bounds defined in the Constitution, strict (Originalist) interpretation of the Constitution, border control, Agency removal (IRS, BATF, EDUCATION, ENERGY, EPA) - such a party/platform could win.


13 posted on 07/23/2013 10:31:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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No, we need an American Party and Sara Palin bests reflects that party.

He must first learn to spell her name: SARAH PALIN!

14 posted on 07/23/2013 10:42:14 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reading this, I had to double-check to make sure I didn't write it. It that closely mirrors my own feelings on all these topics. Most signally, about Sarah as our CEO.

She's the only one in the polirical realm who has repeatedly demonstrated that she possesses ALL of the requisite mettle, faith and strength.

;-\

15 posted on 07/23/2013 10:44:53 PM PDT by Gargantua (America's starting to smell like a steaming pile of Obama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the only way a 3rd party could win would be if the democrat party went into total chaos over some issue and split down the middle into 2 parties.


16 posted on 07/23/2013 10:48:21 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The concept of libertarian is part of the problem of why people are abandoning the GOP.

Many of us will never embrace homosexuals in the military, and in immigration and State department policies, abortion, gay marriage and adoption, porn and crack, and the entire war against God and social conservatism.

The writer asks about Liz Cheney for example and the GOP just ran a gay marriage, gays in the military, pro-abortion presidential candidate.

LIZ Cheney wanted DADT ended and rejoiced when it was, she was against DOMA, is against a constitutional amendment to save marriage, and supports gay marriage, and supports the State department move to the gay agenda, and until this week had never been pro-life.


17 posted on 07/23/2013 10:48:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; KC_Lion; The Cajun; TheConservativeParty; TheCornerOffice; TheOldLady; ...
Sarah Palin's Awesome Ping List

The Out-Of-Touch GOP is Askin' For It!

18 posted on 07/23/2013 10:49:07 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: INVAR

Bingo.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 10:55:54 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason Colorado has gone blue is because enough Libertarians got together, sucked hard on the Elephant’s nose and siphoned off enough votes to put John Morse in the State Senate.

Gun Control made big gains in Colorado thanks to the Hickenlooper-Libertarian Tag Team.


20 posted on 07/23/2013 10:56:47 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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