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Chris Christie slams libertarians over national security
970 WFLA ^ | 7/26/13 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 07/26/2013 10:10:38 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) on Thursday took a big swing at libertarian-leaning lawmakers in both parties, calling the ideology, when applied to national security, “a very dangerous thought.” His comments come just one day after the House narrowly rejected a sweeping amendment to defund the National Security Agency’s surveillance program.

Addressing the bipartisan coalition that joined together to nearly push the so-called Amash amendment through, Christie told lawmakers who harbor libertarian views on the issue to explain their position to the victims of 9/11, the Washington Post’s Aaron Blake reports. He also included Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) in his critique.

“As a former prosecutor who was appointed by President George W. Bush on Sept. 10, 2001, I just want us to be really cautious, because this strain of libertarianism that’s going through both parties right now and making big headlines, I think, is a very dangerous thought,” Christie said.

The governor proceeded to use an emotional argument to make his case, inviting “any one of them that’s engaged in this” apparently dangerous “strain of libertarianism” to come to New Jersey and “sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.”

“I’m very nervous about the direction this is moving in,” Christie added.

What about the raging debate regarding the balancing of privacy and national security? Some of that debate is “esoteric,” according to Christie.

He had kind words to say about the national security strategies of both President Barack Obama and former President George W. Bush.

“Do we have amnesia?” the New Jersey Republican asked. “Because I don’t. And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

Christie made the comments while attending the Republican Governors Association’s summer meeting in Aspen, Colo.


TOPICS: Colorado; Kentucky; New Jersey
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No, Krispy Kreme, WE'RE very nervous over the the way things are done at the NSA. We need national security and intelligence gathering, but it must be balanced with our G-D given rights. Perhaps the Gov should be more concerned with laying off those "rippers" at Rutt's Hut and drop some weight?
1 posted on 07/26/2013 10:10:38 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Christie needs to reread the 4th Amendment!


2 posted on 07/26/2013 10:13:00 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Impala64ssa
I find it amusing how the idea of liberty is, to a statist, a very dangerous thought that makes them nervous.
3 posted on 07/26/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Impala64ssa
“Because I don’t. And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

Me too. I felt like killing muslims. Specifically Saudis. What I didn't feel like having my freedoms curtailed, being spied on 24/7, having perverts grope little children in airports, and being called a racist for correctly pointing out that islam the enemy.

4 posted on 07/26/2013 10:22:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Impala64ssa
come to New Jersey and “sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.”

Yep, and tell the widows and the orphans that all their phone calls and internet activity are now being recorded for their own safety.

Tell them that the constitution is no longer valid because some people are pissing in their pants afraid of the muslim savages.

The fat boy is obviously not very bright. But I'm actually glad that he is making this argument because it will make it easier to defeat him.

5 posted on 07/26/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Impala64ssa

He’s pretty limber for a big fella. You wouldn’t expect a big guy like that to be capable of shoving his head that far up his own ass.


6 posted on 07/26/2013 10:24:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Impala64ssa

The NSA listened to the Russian pricks who blew up Boston. Didn’t help much did it?


7 posted on 07/26/2013 10:25:48 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rochester_veteran

He needs to read the whole document, repeatedly, until he can recite it from memory.

Put down the Twinkie, Jabba, and tell me where the authority exists per the Constitution. Another dipshit with a (R) after their name that seems to think they don’t work for the Citizens of their State after election, or are more intelligent since they are in office.


8 posted on 07/26/2013 10:29:01 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Sirius Lee

Indeed. After Pearl Harbor, we did not go into a defensive mode and try to protect ourselves through enhanced security. Instead, we reached out and showed the world that it is a very, very bad idea to attack America.

We should have done that on 9/12. Should have taken out a few cities that were already on a list of “nice to eliminate” and then we should have announced that our second list of cities included Mecca and Medina and that further attacks by terrorists would be a very, very, very bad idea.

We have tried very hard to be the most powerful nation on earth. And we are. But we are afraid of ourselves and we no longer seem to have the guts to act like what we are. You want security? We spend $500B a year on “security”. But it won’t help unless we use it in the way it was intended — and “nation building” is not what it was intended to do.

We’ve been fighting a war for over 10 years and what do we have to show for it? Loss of our own freedom, and not much more. The guys living in caves seem to have won.


9 posted on 07/26/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Venturer

To find a needle in a haystack, we clearly need a much larger haystack. /s


10 posted on 07/26/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Impala64ssa
Christie has come adrift...




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11 posted on 07/26/2013 10:31:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Hey, if you don’t have anything to hide, why you so worried?

(Is a /sarc tag actually necessary? Dammit, I guess it is these days.)

Buzz off, Christie.


12 posted on 07/26/2013 10:34:18 AM PDT by martiangohome
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To: Impala64ssa

What a fool. They cannot even listen to Mosques. And if they do get wind of terrorist activity, (the Chechens Russia warned them about), they do nothing to stop the terrorist attack. How are they gonna stop any terrorism at all crispy creme ?


13 posted on 07/26/2013 10:40:20 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not JUST put Mecca and Medina on the Tier 2 target list, but promise the dirtiest possible bombs, that the entire AREA will be lethal for decades to come. . .

My tier 1 target would have been ONE bomb.

Medium-large nuke, dropped into the water about a mile behind the Aswan High Dam. Let a boiling, radioactive flood scour the entire Nile Valley clean. And then remind them that was ONE, MEDIUM bomb. And just smile. . .


14 posted on 07/26/2013 10:41:09 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Impala64ssa
2008: When serving as U.S. attorney for New Jersey, Christie embraced and kissed Mohammed Qatanani, imam of the Islamic Center of Passaic County, and praised him as “a man of great goodwill.” He did this after Qatanani had publicly ranted against Jews and in support of funding Hamas, a U.S. government–designated terror organization, ..."

Why doesn't Chris Christie ....“sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.”

2011: Christie appointed an Islamist, Sohail Mohammed, to the New Jersey state superior court. Mohammed’s record includes serving as general counsel to the American Muslim Union (which has stated that a “Zionist Commando Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks”),

Why doesn't Chris Christie ....“sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.”

2012: The revelation that the New York Police Department had conducted surveillance of Islamists in the New Jersey towns of Newark and New Brunswick prompted not gratitude but outrage from Christie, who termed the action arrogant and paranoid while mocking NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly as “all knowing, all seeing.”

Why doesn't Chris Christie ....“sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation.”

15 posted on 07/26/2013 10:45:01 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: martiangohome
Hey, if you don’t have anything to hide, why you so worried?

I heard someone say that just this morning. They were dead serious. Of course, living in MA, I can't say I'm surprised.

16 posted on 07/26/2013 10:46:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Terrorism won’t destroy America but political correctness will.


17 posted on 07/26/2013 10:47:38 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: Impala64ssa
So, the 4th Amendment is just a loony libertarian idea?

Someone should put helium in his donuts and use Christie for a border patrol blimp.

18 posted on 07/26/2013 10:50:28 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Impala64ssa; Lancey Howard; jazusamo

The House voted in an amendment the other night that refused funds form any military aid to Syria that doesn’t first get congressional approval.

I thought it was a great idea.

Christie probably wants to put Al Qaeda in charge in Syria, same as Obama, McCain, Graham, and the conquest-of-the-world-for-jihadism group in Congress.


19 posted on 07/26/2013 10:51:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!


20 posted on 07/26/2013 10:54:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agreed. “Shock & Awe” should have been “Nuke & Destroy.” Turn that sand into a sheet of glass and there won’t be any caves or anything else.


21 posted on 07/26/2013 10:55:12 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Impala64ssa

Yesterday on NRO someone posted that we used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.

I thought that was profound. Naturally NRO erased it.


22 posted on 07/26/2013 11:00:03 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Impala64ssa

What did christie slam him with, a pizza? A bag of m+m’s?


23 posted on 07/26/2013 11:10:18 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (GOTS: Food, water, guns, ammo, useful skills, friends, cash, and precious metals.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Don’t forget to tell the widows and orphans that Mosques are exempt from the NSA monitoring.


24 posted on 07/26/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Impala64ssa

If Christie were President during WWII, he would have nuked Hawaii.

Seriously, this guy is a dangerous moron. If we get attacked by an enemy, we attack them. We don’t attack ourselves in response.

Apparently the sociopaths in the Republican Party think this is a winning strategy and they can justify it by standing on dead bodies and evoking 9/11. This might work for frightened soccer moms but you can’t win elections with just them. Keep up this rhetoric and the Republican Party will be a more fragmented garbage dump of failed ideology than it already is. It definitely cannot defeat a unified communist / Democrat party. They don’t eat their own.

Post Bush doctrine America, if you can call it that with Obama’s continued march, is a complete and utter disaster. The Republican party is obsolete and people like McCain, Christie, Graham, and a host of others prove it. They should be at the back of the bus, kicked, punched, and sent back to their country clubs with the black eyes and bruised egos they so desperately deserve.

When your party starts to eat its own it’s time for a new one. Once all the rich, white, old, Republicans kill themselves on booze, medication, and food addiction, who do you expect to replace them with? Been to a Young Republican’s meeting lately? Christie just alienated 90% of them.


25 posted on 07/26/2013 11:17:40 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Impala64ssa

***New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) on Thursday took a big swing at libertarian-leaning lawmakers in both parties,...***

It takes a big man to take a big swing.


26 posted on 07/26/2013 11:19:35 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Sirius Lee
“Because I don’t. And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

Me too. I felt like killing muslims. Specifically Saudis.

So did I. Took me four years, but I got my scalps...

27 posted on 07/26/2013 11:50:24 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: rochester_veteran
Christie needs to reread the 4th Amendment!

Bet you smother that sunnavahgun in maple syrup he'd be interested.

28 posted on 07/26/2013 11:51:43 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Impala64ssa

Eat another donut, you RINO bastard.


29 posted on 07/26/2013 11:53:27 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Impala64ssa

Hey Krispy Kreme, Eat another donut, you RINO bastard.


30 posted on 07/26/2013 11:54:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sad, isn’t it? Here in southeast MO if you said something like that you may get taken out back for a talking to...


31 posted on 07/26/2013 11:56:42 AM PDT by martiangohome
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To: Salgak

-—”Medium-large nuke, dropped into the water about a mile behind the Aswan High Dam. “

Ummm... Sharpshooter, I admire your eagerness to slam Islam for the evil that it is, but that’s kinda reckless, doncha think?

Where does the Nile flow?

The Mediterranean and then the Atlantic would have radioactivity. That would piss off the Euros (who cares), but they don’t deserve this.

Neutron bombs would be better.


32 posted on 07/26/2013 12:14:24 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Impala64ssa

At a time when Obama needed PR and to fool stupid Americans into believing he was not the most divisive president in history (he is), Christie did a series of photo ops with Obama.

Never forgive him for that.

Traitor.


33 posted on 07/26/2013 12:17:43 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: OneWingedShark
I find it amusing how the idea of liberty is, to a statist, "a very dangerous thought" that makes them nervous.

This statist could end up with the GOP nomination.

Every day, I find 1-2 reasons why I'm done with the GOP.
34 posted on 07/26/2013 12:31:13 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
This statist could end up with the GOP nomination.

This is true.

Every day, I find 1-2 reasons why I'm done with the GOP.

Romney's nomination was the thing that got me. It illustrated exactly what they've become:


35 posted on 07/26/2013 12:38:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Impala64ssa
“Do we have amnesia?” the New Jersey Republican asked. “Because I don’t. And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

It's a sad day when we have to fear Obama etal more than we do Arab terrorists, but here we are.

36 posted on 07/26/2013 1:32:23 PM PDT by stevem
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Well, consider for a second, what fallout is. Debris pulled up in the explosion, and the bomb itself, and stuff in the immediate vicinity of the explosion, made radioactive by the high neutron and gamma flux.

A “water shot” would primarily irradiate water, transmuting the hydrogen and oxygen into radioisotopes.

The radioisotopes of Oxygen have half-lives between 2 and 122 seconds, so they would be violently radioactive immediately, but by the time the water made it out to the sea, it would barely be radioactive at all: 20 minutes would be 10 half-lives of the longest-lived isotope, or roughly one tenth of a percent of the original radiation.

Hydrogen would be transmuted to Tritium, which is a Beta emitter, and thus not really a problem. . .


37 posted on 07/26/2013 2:06:47 PM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: OneWingedShark

>> I find it amusing how the idea of liberty is, to a statist, “a very dangerous thought” that makes them nervous.

Libertarianism and statism represent the enforcement extents. Conservatism and liberalism distinguish the moral divide. A Leftist is a liberal statist. The Libertarian Platform defines the liberal libertarian. Regrettably, there are too few conservative libertarians. Christie is a statist leaning moderate. Rand Paul is a conservative leaning libertarian, Palin and Levin are libertarian leaning conservatives as were the Founding Fathers — the same camp that I belong.


38 posted on 07/26/2013 2:20:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Impala64ssa
Christie told lawmakers who harbor libertarian views on the issue to explain their position to the victims of 9/11, the Washington Post’s Aaron Blake reports. He also included Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) in his critique.

Nice strawman. 9/11 happened because of political correctness and lax border/interior security, not because of a belief that we should mind our own business and stop policing the world.

39 posted on 07/26/2013 3:50:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yup.


40 posted on 07/26/2013 6:05:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Salgak

Salgak,

Well, that was quite an intelligent response.

I hereby retract my sarcastic “Sharpshooter” allegation and I learned something.


41 posted on 07/26/2013 7:30:58 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Sirius Lee

The ironic thing is that “Islam” is NOT A RACE, it’s a very dangerous cultist ideology, “Islam” is more of a NATION than anything. And perhaps the most dangerous threat to face the world ever, once Islamists start taking over areas of western civilization and getting Sharia law imposed, and all the atrocities being committed and possibly more worse terrorist attacks than 9/11 happen. I believe that people might start seeing the bigger picture and fighting Islam wherever it rears its head. But by then it may be too late.


42 posted on 07/27/2013 1:35:28 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Impala64ssa

Screw this guy.


43 posted on 07/27/2013 3:04:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Impala64ssa

I had enough of this fat blow-hard. I can’t wait until he tries to run for POTUS and then falls flat on his bloated face down South and out West.


44 posted on 07/27/2013 4:09:40 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Salgak

Why worry about radiation at all. A Bunker buster at the base of the dam would have the same affect.


45 posted on 07/27/2013 4:11:24 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Impala64ssa
“Do we have amnesia?” the New Jersey Republican asked. “Because I don’t. And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

What, you mean with those 19 illegal alien Saudis running loose in the country? How did that happen, fat man?

46 posted on 07/27/2013 4:11:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

IMHO, Gov. Christie and Sen. Paul is each more intelligent and a greater patriot than fat-ass Hillary. I would vote for EITHER to keep her from continuing Obama’s war against the middle class.

And let’s not forget that well-paid Obama-bots have already started their campaign of dirty-tricks directed against ALL Republicans...


47 posted on 07/27/2013 4:58:36 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Sirius Lee

BUMP!


48 posted on 07/27/2013 5:13:58 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Salgak
10 half-lives of the longest-lived isotope, or roughly one tenth of a percent of the original radiation.

...goes as 1/2,1/4,1/8 so...

10 half lives = 1/210 = 1/1024 or a bit more than a thousandth.

49 posted on 07/27/2013 5:18:40 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: rochester_veteran
Christie needs to reread the 4th Amendment!

And the 5th...

50 posted on 07/27/2013 5:35:34 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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