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Chris Matthews: Take my word for it Rand Paul will be the GOP nominee in 2016
Hot Air ^ | August 8, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/08/2013 2:23:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Money line: “This is what I do for a living.” Didn’t he predict a Bush/Clinton race in 2016 just nine months ago? If he believes what he says here about the parties swinging like “pendulums” from moderate nominees to ideologues and then back again, why would he have named Jeb as a strong contender last November?

In fact, the roots of the counterargument are in Matthews’s own shpiel here:

Most of the time, they head to the center.

This is what Republicans did most successfully in 1952 – when, after twenty years of Roosevelt and Harry Truman – they wanted back in the White House. They ran the general who received the Nazi surrender and won big.

In 1956 and 1960 they stuck to the middle, with Ike the second time, then Richard Nixon.

In 1964, the right said it was its turn and blew the roof off the Cow Palace out in San Francisco – mocking Republican moderates and liberals like New York governor Nelson Rockefeller – then getting killed by Lyndon Johnson in November.

I don’t know how useful Ike comparisons are; he was a “moderate,” yes, but as a political figure he’s sui generis given his war credentials. He was, though, highly “electable,” and I think Matthews is right that when a party’s out of power for a long time, electability gets even more of a premium from primary voters than it usually would. When the GOP nominated Goldwater and the Democrats nominated McGovern, they were each just four years removed from controlling the White House. Republicans in 2016 will be eight years removed and potentially facing an unusually famous, formidable non-incumbent nominee in Hillary. They’s also got demographic pressures on them to tack towards the middle that the party hasn’t had recently. Under circumstances like that, do you roll the dice on an ideologue or, out of sheer exasperation from being shut out of power so long, do you double down on pandering to centrists? That’s the logic for nominating Jeb or Christie.

Even so, I’m surprised he named Paul rather than Ted Cruz as the ideologue whose moment in the sun he thinks is coming, just because Cruz seems to loom larger in Matthews’s imagination as the embodiment of all that’s foul about the tea party. If you’re looking to accuse your opponents of embracing an extremist ogre in their choice of nominee, why not name a guy whom you’ve called a “terrorist” instead of Rand Paul? Which is not to say, though, that Matthews is wrong; I don’t think Paul will win, but I made the case myself yesterday that he could be unusually strong in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Unless Paul does something Rubio-esque to sabotage his conservative credentials over the next year, one of the big political subplots of 2014 will be establishment Republicans quietly gearing up to stop him in the early primary states. They can probably stop him in South Carolina or Florida in 2016 if he wins only Iowa or New Hampshire; if he wins both, that’s dangerous to them and they know it. They’ll get moving early to make sure it doesn’t happen.

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1 posted on 08/08/2013 2:23:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s hope not.

We don’t need another Amnesty Queen as POTUS.


2 posted on 08/08/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Either the MSM may think Rand Paul will be good for homosexuals or they think Rand is an easy target. If so, we can expect to see the MSM push him on the GOP just like they did Romney.

Paul's comment about no national law on same sex marriage and leaving it to the states is a surrender on the issue. That alone would put him in the good graces of the MSM.

They may also think that all of his "cut entitlement" talk can be used against him insuring a democrat win. And his father can probably be used against him as well.

3 posted on 08/08/2013 2:33:24 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Either the MSM may think Rand Paul will be good for homosexuals or they think Rand is an easy target. If so, we can expect to see the MSM push him on the GOP just like they did Romney.

Paul's comment about no national law on same sex marriage and leaving it to the states is a surrender on the issue. That alone would put him in the good graces of the MSM.

They may also think that all of his "cut entitlement" talk can be used against him insuring a democrat win. And his father can probably be used against him as well.

4 posted on 08/08/2013 2:33:24 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SoConPubbie

We don’t need another Amnesty Queen as POTUS.


Hitlery or another Rat will be the next President.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 2:41:32 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can make predictions also. I predict.
Within the next week Chris Matthews will say something incredibly stupid.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 2:44:41 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I heard Rand Paul tell either Neil Cavuto or Sean Hannity, that he will back and support the GOP nominee, so I took that to mean that he will NOT go third party like his father.

I'm watching this amnesty vote and talk very carefully , right along with the defunding of Obamacare.

I wouldn't mind seeing Ted Cruz and Rand Paul on the same ticket. Idiot Matthews has no idea about the number of young people Rand Paul attracts.
7 posted on 08/08/2013 2:48:15 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I could support Rand Paul. I will not vote for another RINO.


8 posted on 08/08/2013 2:48:48 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: ez

I can only pray that CM is correct. Rand Paul (if not Sarah Palin) is our best choice. Smaller gubmnt, less war, balanced budget, constitutionalist first & foremost. He is not an amnesty queen. He had a sensible plan. Border security FIRST.


9 posted on 08/08/2013 2:54:12 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I never take Chrissy’s word for anything.


10 posted on 08/08/2013 2:59:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here we go again, it is the left telling their followers to cross over in the primaries to get the republican on the ticket that they can beat in 2016.


11 posted on 08/08/2013 3:05:53 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Iowa, NH and SC are three states I could see him doing well in. If they wait to stop him in Fla will the attempt go all Guiliani on them?


12 posted on 08/08/2013 3:12:22 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t take his word for the color of the sky.

(It’s purple in his world).


13 posted on 08/08/2013 3:21:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not...


14 posted on 08/08/2013 3:24:30 PM PDT by GregB (I am voting for Sarah Palin in 2016..period!!!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul is one of the only Republicans I could support.


15 posted on 08/08/2013 3:50:52 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Well of course he wants that, he always supports the Democrat. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Know your enemy.
16 posted on 08/08/2013 4:35:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where does Allahpundit get the idea that Hillary is a “non-incumbent?” We all know that she was the real president while Bill was the official one. I still remember the bumper stickers that said, “Impeach President Clinton and her husband.”


17 posted on 08/08/2013 7:55:52 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Rand Paul is one of the only Republicans I could support.

Rand Paul has his own Amnesty plan where he wants to Grant Amnesty to 2 Million Undocumented Democrats each and every year.

Better rethink your support of him if you want to see anymore Republican Presidents, because if he gets his way, and becomes President, he'll be the last Republican President in your life-time, in fact, there will not be a majority in either the House or Senate as a result of his yearly Amnesty for 2 million Undocumented Democrats each and every year.
18 posted on 08/08/2013 9:12:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If only, we all know that Jeb’s been selected to be the next dismal failure.


19 posted on 08/08/2013 9:42:27 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s a pretty safe bet. GOPe controls the process completely


20 posted on 08/08/2013 10:54:41 PM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since Chris Matthews is a democrats - and hangs with liberals - why doesn't he tell us about something he might know about - like who's going to be the Democrat candidate. The guy's a blowhard.
21 posted on 08/09/2013 4:01:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I didn’t think Obama’s position on gay marriage could get any gayer.” That, plus comparing it to bestiality, plus having the “Southern Avenger” on staff, all adds up to Rand Paul being a fun addition to the candidate pool. He will not be the nominee for the very same reasons.

Chris Matthews just wants somebody to hate, so he’s going to focus on Rand Paul for a while.


22 posted on 08/09/2013 6:48:21 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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