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Why Kristol symbolizes everything wrong w/GOP: Thinks Palin doesn’t have a future’ in U.S. politics
The Last Tradition Blog ^ | August 20, 2013 | Samuel Gonzalez

Posted on 08/21/2013 5:42:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Bill Kristol once referred to himself as a “squish”

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Yet for some reason the GOP establishment holds Kristol in high regard when I think the man projects the intestinal fortitude of a sponge.

Kristol is what passes for masculine strength in today’s Republican Party. So it’s no wonder the Party has become a collection of cream puffs who have abandoned their conservative principles.

The only time the GOP shows some fight is when they attack conservatives. They never seem to muster that kind of moxie against Barack Obama and the Democrats. But, with conservative Republicans they become junkyard dogs.

So somebody must’ve gotten to Kristol to take Sarah Palin down a peg.

The Raw Story reports Republican political strategist and Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol appeared on “Morning Joe” Tuesday morning to walk back statements he made to ABC Online on Sunday regarding the political fortunes of erstwhile Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R). Whereas two days ago, Kristol said that Palin could “resurrect herself” politically by way of a run for U.S. Senate, Tuesday morning he was far less sanguine about her prospects, saying that she does not “have a future” in politics.

Kristol was one of Palin’s earliest advocates in the Republican Party, which he said in the Sunday interview, but added that her decision to quit the governorship in the middle of her first term was a poor choice for someone who hopes to secure a job in government.

However, he said, “I think the way Palin would possibly....

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I don’t know many conservatives that take Bill Kristol seriously anymore. It’s been a long while since he lost his fastball!


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: gop; kristol; palin; republicans

1 posted on 08/21/2013 5:42:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He went up to Alaska and found her for McCain. Maybe he is trying to challenge her into running for something.


2 posted on 08/21/2013 5:44:53 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kristol is the liberal on FOX “News” with liberal
pro-Obama Hume.

Astonishingly, FOX “News” is so pro Obama
and so pro al Qaeda, that the MOST CONSERVATIVE
commentator ... is Juan Williams.

Kristol is to the LEFT of Juan Williams.


3 posted on 08/21/2013 5:46:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: dforest

Here’s what I’d like to see her do. Win a Senate seat, but not to pass legislation, to throw a money wrench into the whole corrupt mess.

Expose all the back room dealing that goes on behind the public lies. Just generally let some sunshine into the infected puss filled boil on the backside of the country.


4 posted on 08/21/2013 5:49:55 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dforest

Buffoons all on the same bus bickering over who get to ride in the front.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 5:51:37 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Krystol belongs to the same club as Lindsey Graham, if u know what I mean. I don’t pay any attention to what he has to say.


6 posted on 08/21/2013 5:53:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will these stupid establishment Republicans shake themselves and please wake the hell up. Watching this constant GOP circular firing squad is tiring.


7 posted on 08/21/2013 5:56:38 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's been a long while since he lost his fastball.

He's now a connoisseur of the screwball.

8 posted on 08/21/2013 5:57:03 PM PDT by JPG (Obama, Juan and Linda Do Egypt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can anyone imagine a Dem pundit saying something like that about a prominent Democrat? The GOP loves to form circular firing squads.


9 posted on 08/21/2013 5:57:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like her but not enough to put her in a top spot. I think she would be far more effective to put her name and energies into one of the better organized 3rd parties and get some genuine competition in place. May not do a lot for her ambitions, what ever that would be, but could do wonders for the country.


10 posted on 08/21/2013 5:58:08 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PDS is obviously eternal. What made this jerk think of Palin? Does Romney have a political future? That thought would never enter his mind because he’s enamored with Palin 24/7.


11 posted on 08/21/2013 5:59:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yet for some reason the GOP establishment holds Kristol in high regard when I think the man projects the intestinal fortitude of a sponge.

Kristol would panic riding a pony with an adult leading it.

12 posted on 08/21/2013 5:59:38 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: True Grit

LOL


13 posted on 08/21/2013 6:01:10 PM PDT by dforest
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To: vet7279

You have no idea about her ambitions. She already did too much for this country. Stick w/obama, you deserve him.


14 posted on 08/21/2013 6:02:04 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I loath the GOP establishment


15 posted on 08/21/2013 6:09:12 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: presently no screen name

I just don’t understand why she doesn’t call their bluff. She hints and seems to want to run for something but does not take the step to do so. Maybe keeping her cards close to her chest is best. She is right 99.99 percent of the time.


16 posted on 08/21/2013 6:09:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is actually very correct. When you think of the essense of the GOP, don’t think of Boehner or Christie...think instead of Bill Kriston. Mealy-mouthed, paid to say whatever makes him the most money, insider, elitist - the archetype inside the Beltway no-balls, no power, go-along to get-along type. That is exactly right.


17 posted on 08/21/2013 6:14:08 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Kristol's a neocon, with emphasis on 'con'.

Has he walked back his undying support of the useless Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and subsequent lame and impossible attempts at nation-building?

18 posted on 08/21/2013 6:17:20 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dforest

Yep, he was one of her first national backers....the very early days, when almost no one had heard of her.....interesting....


19 posted on 08/21/2013 6:19:40 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I remember he said some very nice things about her back then. He said she was a shrewd politician amongst other compliments.

I am not a Kristol fan, but I still do not think he dislikes Palin.


20 posted on 08/21/2013 6:24:40 PM PDT by dforest
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Kristol's a neocon, with emphasis on 'con'.

Finally. Criticizing this fruit loop would've gotten you smeared as an anti-Semite or zotted not too long ago.

The damage has been done. Don't say you weren't warned.

21 posted on 08/21/2013 6:32:08 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is she doing now? Is she running for anything? I don’t think she is. Could he just be expressing an opinion (poorly worded), instead of making a judgement call about her capabilities?


22 posted on 08/21/2013 6:40:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
I got called on the carpet a few times for supposedly antisemitic remarks.

Pointing out that Joseph Sobran and Pat Buchanan sometimes had intelligent things to say is enough to get some folks riled up.

Calling someone a neoconservative, even someone who once self-labeled himself as a neoconservative, is enough to send some posters into a tizzy.

With regard to Iraq and Afghanistan: once again we learned from history that we don't learn from history. Why some folks think that is an antisemitic statement I can't fathom.

23 posted on 08/21/2013 6:43:36 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: napscoordinator

Palin stepped aside last time at the tip top.

She chose to spend four years with her new family.

Kudos to her for that. It’s special, and it’s nice.

Now in 2 more years, there will come a decision. Palin will at that point have a decision to make.

If she chooses to stand aside at that time, she’s not a factor.

However it’s not 2 years from today.

Keep the faith. :D


24 posted on 08/21/2013 6:45:20 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: PghBaldy

Relax.

Palin isn’t doing anything right now, except working at Fox and marking time.

The next race is at least one full year from now.

She’s got plenty to do right now. Living life.

Relax.


25 posted on 08/21/2013 6:46:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I always said that McCarthyism was a myth. I still believe that.

But what happened in Terrorized America 2001-2013 actually happened.

Ironically, Snowden is today's McCarthy.

26 posted on 08/21/2013 6:54:51 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: presently no screen name

Not to be snarky... but what exactly did she do for this country? She did a few things for Alaska.


27 posted on 08/21/2013 7:05:43 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, Palin has a present in U.S. politics, and the degree to which the Establishment is in denial of this obvious fact astonishes me. This isn't hard. If she were as marginal as her critics insist, we wouldn't be having constant stories about how marginal she is.

As a candidate, we do not know, and were I advising her I'd tell her to pick her fight carefully. But one need not be a candidate to exhibit political potency.

28 posted on 08/21/2013 7:13:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: napscoordinator

She doesn’t hint at anything. She’s clear and direct, IMO. Surely you heard her say more than once, she loves Alaska and wants it for her kids and she doesn’t want a stuffy office in DC.

It’s peoples wanting her to run and some peoples fear that she may run- that is the problem. How many times does she have to say WeThePeople - we are so used to ‘one’ person doing the job - unless voters do their part - NOTHING will get done. This last election was proof voters do not get it - they voted for flavors and not substance - the same old thing and they want different results? They were used as fools by the GOP!

She supports the TeaParty - and came out to support their choices and they win. She’s in it with WeThePeople - she is just one American who is taking advantage of the national platform she has. She is a leader and wanted to keep the spirit alive - and many misread as her having an ambition to be president. She is over the top qualified to be so - but that is not her ambition. There is no one like her - because once a politician speaks out - that politicians want to run for something - she is NOT like that. They want something for themselves and NOT America. Everyone of them have turned against the Constitution to retain flavor with a certain group.

And, she listens to God and doesn’t do anything unless HE says to do it. God sees the hearts of many - they just want to be taken care of - when they should turn to HIM. If she is president there would be no reason why they should turn to HIM. In the end, that’s where you destiny lies - not in America. When people refuse to put their faith in HIM, why would he act for a people who lives in fear when He has said over and over - FEAR NOT. They don’t listen to HIM but expect HIM to answer their request in spite of their disobedience. The last election was based on NOTHING BUT FEAR - right from the get go! Fear is from satan and voters succumbed to his wishes and he got his way on America AGAIN and AGAIN.

IF God said to run, she would run - ‘Not my will but your will be done’. “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated ME first”. I know those here on FR who hate God. And how many in the GOP supported her? Barbara Bush said she should stay in Alaska and romney used his influence to have her trashed for years. Just 2 examples and there are many while on youtube there’s a clip of NEWT supporting her. How many didn’t want any part of NEWT in this last election and yet wanted change? Voters speak with fork tongue and clueless to boot!


29 posted on 08/21/2013 7:48:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Krystal is “GOP ESTABLISHMENT”. The establishment doesn’t want her. He got called onto the carpet for “endorsing” her. He had to come back and quench the fire for the Establishment.


30 posted on 08/21/2013 7:52:21 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: bigdaddy45

Alaska isn’t part of AMERICA?

And saying a few things show how little you want to know. Stay there - it’s too late for you to be taught.

Did you forget those she supported/TeaParty candidates and they won in 2010? The IRS/obama administration remembers.


31 posted on 08/21/2013 7:53:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If she chooses to stand aside at that time, she’s not a factor.

Stand aside from what??? Setting her up in your own mind, so you can continue your rant against her?

32 posted on 08/21/2013 8:07:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

It’s another year at least until the race begins.

I am totally in the bag for Palin. I was supporting her right here in 2008.

Relax. :D


33 posted on 08/21/2013 8:12:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’ve read your snarky posts about her over the years - so give it a rest.


34 posted on 08/21/2013 8:28:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I wouldn’t attribute the Tea Party to Sarah Palin. Just what I expected. It’s “too late to teach me” because you really don’t have a response.


35 posted on 08/21/2013 8:36:04 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: presently no screen name

Not happening.

I challenge you to find “snarky posts” by this poster about Palin. Except for maybe a few, right around the time she decided to (not) run for the presidency in 2012.

And I wouldn’t even call those snarky. Just disappointed.

Go ahead. Take all the time you need.

You will not find those posts.

I’ll be around though, and to be honest would appreciate an apology once you realize you’re completely wrong.

Thanks.


36 posted on 08/21/2013 8:44:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: bigdaddy45

It’s not that I don’t have a response but you already claimed she did little for Alaska while not even knowing what she did do. If you cared to know, you would.

Don’t attribute anything to her - who really gives a flip? It doesn’t change one thing.


37 posted on 08/21/2013 9:33:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You aren't worth the effort. You've been exposed on each and every thread of Sarah's you have been on for years and when exposed you always have the same comeback.

And you didn't answer the question....Stand aside from what??? If she chooses to stand aside at that time, she’s not a factor.

Put up or shut up, snark.

38 posted on 08/21/2013 9:41:06 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I’m not doing she did some good things for Alaska. And cleaned up some pretty significant corruption. Before she quit.

Nationally she’s had a lot of exposure, but hasn’t had the position to really make an impact.


39 posted on 08/22/2013 5:19:02 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

She did more than clean up corruption for Alaska. Her life has been in service FOR America. She decided to leave for the betterment of Alaska as she couldn’t give her FULL attention to Alaska because of ‘this sudden rash of accusations where she beat every one of them in court’.

Before this she had 83% approval rating in Alaska before evil (through rinos and rats) showed it’s ugly face. And she’s still standing 25,000 emails scrutinized along withevery part of her life/her families life 24/7; yet, is STILL when SARAH speaks everyone listens. And you, who are nothing, say she didn’t make a significant impact? You simply have no idea what time we are in, where America is and what has been shown through Sarah to those with eyes that can see and ears that can hear.

You are going to caught off guard and learn the hard way. One day you will remember this when it is too late. For over 200 years, America has been the greatest nation and evil has been hell bent on taking her down and the fire has been turned up even greater now and could be because more and more have bowed at the altar of evil - and anyone who claimed loyalty TO America/Our Constitution have not done so. Betrayal after betrayal and I cannot recognize a one who is totally committed to it in DC any longer.

Besides Reagan, tell me just one politician who has made a good impact FOR America? And this last election, two bottom of the barrel candidates were running to lead America and each side giddy about their candidate winning? And they love America? While you are questioning what is so great about Sarah, it’s more like what’s so great about America because you can’t see goodness when it’s right in your face and it’s that mindset that has failed America. They want from America but have NO idea what is good for America because evil handed voters all it has - evil and they settle for it.

Sarah, like Reagan, represents goodness and evil tried it’s best 24/7 to expose some evil in what ‘some say is good’ and it failed!. Romney/Jeb/GOPe said the Reagan Era is over - that was a statement very few took seriously - it showed what is in their heart. Evil overcame goodness because voters believed the lies from the LIAR and fell to it’s manipulation. Voters aren’t even drawn to goodness as your post shows - they don’t even recognize it!! So they would never fight for it! Don’t concern yourself - you won’t get it.


40 posted on 08/22/2013 8:44:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: dforest
He went up to Alaska and found her for McCain.

Palin was chosen only to give that doddering, Democrat plant Juan McLame credibility among naive conservatives. Could you imagine if McInsane was allowed to pick his good pal Joe Lieberman as he wanted to. Nobody would have voted for that duo and it would have certainly exposed the Presidential "election" as the total fraud it is.

41 posted on 08/23/2013 10:43:16 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: dforest

This comment reveals more about what you think of Gov Palin than you would like to reveal


42 posted on 08/25/2013 9:46:56 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (And 2016 as well)
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012

BS, and you are trying to start something. Kristol did go up to Alaska on a cruise to meet Sarah. She would even tell you that.

So, what this proves is that you are unable to process facts because they don’t fit your narrative. So drop it.

I understand that she was picked to spice up the McCain failure to launch.


43 posted on 08/27/2013 3:49:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

So are you denying that you were one of the ring leaders among the PDSers when you went by the alias of IndyLindy?


44 posted on 08/28/2013 9:04:28 AM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (And 2016 as well)
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012

Yes, I was never a “ringleader”. Did Palin run? Nope, Are you denying that Bill Kristol went to Alaska on a cruise with others and recruited Palin for the running mate for John McCain? Has Palin come out yet in opposition to the old fool McCain?

Cannot answer me truthfully, can you? Does everyone have to answer everything according to what you think is okay? Does that not resemble the left when it comes to Obama?

By the way, all I said here is that I think Kristol does not hate Palin. Is that so bad?


45 posted on 08/28/2013 12:17:03 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012

By the way, my screen name was never an alias. You can ask the top here why my name changed. It was a request by management.

Ticks me off, because it was not my choice fool.


46 posted on 08/28/2013 12:25:21 PM PDT by dforest
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