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Deace: Republicans should kill 'false debate,' sell ideas to changing nation
Cityview ^ | August 21, 2013 | Douglas Burns

Posted on 08/23/2013 1:37:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Nationally syndicated talk-radio host Steve Deace, an Iowa native who has built a national brand as an in-house critic of the conservative movement, says Democrats are out-gunning Republicans on strategy and message.

“Say what you will, the Democrats offer solutions,” Deace said.

Meanwhile, the GOP issues statements that come across like sponsors’ patches on NASCAR drivers or scout badges, he said.

Deace, 40, spoke for about two hours to a crowd of 80 people at the Santa Maria Winery in Carroll last week, an event organized by the Carroll Area Tea Party.

His central theme: Republicans shouldn’t get mad with Democrats; they should learn from their opponents’ passion.

“We should not be upset,” Deace said. “We should be emulating them.”

Deace said President Barack Obama and Democrats have developed superior organizing tactics — and they don’t shrink from liberal instincts, as too many conservatives do with their own world views.

“The side that cares the least about losing always wins,” Deace said.

Deace unleashed a torrent of rhetorical fire on American culture’s celebrity obsession, saying it has corrupted politics and turn on its head the foundation of democracy: Public servants working for the people.

“Why do we rally around these people like they’re matinee idols on ‘Tiger Beat?’ ” Deace said.

He said Speaker of the U.S. House John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, is little more than a handmaiden for the Obama agenda. He joked that Boehner is likely to change his middle name to “Cave.”

“Congress is less popular than root canals and cockroaches,” Deace said.

Deace lives in West Des Moines, but his radio show has a national reach with affiliates in New York City, Washington, D.C., Seattle, Houston, Fresno, Calif., and dozens of other cities. His show airs on WHO-Radio.

“I’m not just a talk-show host; I’m an activist,” Deace said.

During his remarks, Deace drew some of the most sustained applause in complimenting the work of recently elected U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, a potential contender for the White House.

“One thing I’ve realized about Iowans is we value sincerity,” Deace said, terming Cruz a “force of nature” who is willing to challenge the system. Deace stopped short of endorsing Cruz but said he would like to see the Texan run because he can play offense with his principles.

In an interview, Deace said he plans to seek elected office himself someday (probably governor) but will not run as a Republican for the U.S. Senate in 2014.

“I took a long look at this race,” Deace said. “I know a lot of people in the conservative movement around the country that want to support a full-spectrum conservative for the nomination. They view this as a winnable seat.”

But Deace said, “In the end, I just didn’t get the sense that, frankly, it was something God was calling me to do. And it would probably mean I would have to give up my radio show just at a time when it is growing.”

What’s more, Deace said his show can help several candidates around the nation get elected.

Deace said he expects to the GOP Senate race to go to convention.

He doesn’t think a candidate can reach 35 percent in the primary.

Deace reserved some of his strongest comments in the interview for Lt. Gov. Kim Reynolds, a Republican he described as a weakened elected official with no worldview or political future beyond her current position.

“Kim has a lot of issues that a lot of Iowa politicos are aware of, beyond simple worldview issues — a lot of stuff that would probably be exposed in a Senate race when this might be the 51st seat in the United States Senate,” Deace said. “I’m not in the business of dragging people through stuff publicly. It’s just stuff a lot of people know, stuff that would come out.”

When asked to elaborate or point out specifics, Deace said, “She has some issues, and I’ll just leave it at that.”


TOPICS: Iowa; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz; democrats; gop; ohio; randsconcerntrolls; republicans; stevedeace; talkradio; teaparty; tedcruz

1 posted on 08/23/2013 1:37:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny he couldn’t say what the Dems’ “solutions” were.


2 posted on 08/23/2013 1:53:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Say what you will, the Democrats offer solutions,”

So did Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Debbs, FDR, Castro, Mugabe, and Obama. There solutions were invariably worse than the problem.


3 posted on 08/23/2013 1:54:30 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Say what you will, the Democrats offer solutions,” Deace said

Name one thing Democrats have "solved"

4 posted on 08/23/2013 1:54:49 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many stations is this guy “nationally syndicated” to?


5 posted on 08/23/2013 1:58:05 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he’s “built a national brand,” how come on one’s heard of him?


6 posted on 08/23/2013 2:03:34 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Final solutions, yes.
7 posted on 08/23/2013 2:04:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Doug Loss

Another manufactured “in-house critic” by the left.


8 posted on 08/23/2013 2:05:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Doug Loss

He must be the “next big thing” in talk radio, I mean he uses Stealth Technology


9 posted on 08/23/2013 2:12:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Doug Loss

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/19/these-are-the-6-reasons-christian-talk-radio-host-steve-deace-wont-vote-for-romney/

Well, he was mentioned in The Blaze before, so he must be really huge.


10 posted on 08/23/2013 2:13:32 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This idiot is why we have to ride our ‘own’ talking heads harder than the libs. He is why people get scared and vote for Romney and the like.

He plants that seed and nurtures it till election day.


11 posted on 08/23/2013 2:16:28 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

He certainly seems confident in his own Christianity when he claims that the Dems “offer solutions”.


12 posted on 08/23/2013 2:17:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Doug Loss; GeronL; Olog-hai
In fairness, he is on 9PM-12AM--not a glamorous time slot. I assure you, he is NOT a "manufactured 'in-house' critic of the left". Ten minutes of research beyond a webpage from something called 'Cityview' would prove this.

He does have a national 'brand', because he is nationally syndicated. 3, 33, or 333 stations is syndicated. And he has been on CNN, MSNBC, etc. as a guest.

And to his point about the Democrats having 'solutions' to problems both real and manufactured..The Democrats do offer 'solutions'--more big, all-encompassing government garbage. He didn't say it was a good solution...

I really recommend his show. At first, when the local affiliate got rid of the previous talent, and I hear this guy, I said to myself: "WHO?" "Who the heck is this guy? Seriously?" But after hearing an hour I was hooked.

This guy is intelligent, a fierce debater, and has a tremendous future, especially if he runs for politics.

I urge you to take an honest look at Steve Deace. I have no dog in this fight; I am not related to him, if anyone is wondering. I do think he is very solid, entertaining radio, however.

13 posted on 08/23/2013 2:25:00 AM PDT by Captainpaintball (Maybe we DON'T wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin!)
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To: Captainpaintball

So what do his counter-solutions to the Democrats’ “solutions” that he touts happen to be?


14 posted on 08/23/2013 2:39:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I wanna know what thinking person equates a guy that says dems offer solutions with someone possessing intelligence.

Words mean things.


15 posted on 08/23/2013 2:43:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Captainpaintball

They have solutions to nothing, these ideas solve nothing.

The phrase he used is enough for me to reject him out of hand as a kook.


16 posted on 08/23/2013 2:46:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Captainpaintball

“Solution” has a definition. It means something is solved. It means the problem is over.

Democrats never solve anything, it would defeat their cause of bigger government if a problem got solved.

Therefore, Democrats never have solutions.


17 posted on 08/23/2013 2:47:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

you posted this...what do you think about his remarks?

I see some very good statements that he made. He admires Ted Cruz. He can’t stand the GOP Establishment. He thinks Boehner’s middle name should be “Cave”. He urged the tea party group he was speaking to, to offer conservative ideas, employing passion and good organizing skills which the GOP E is terrible at doing.

Unfortunately, his wording on “Democrats offer solutions” has seemed to overshadow these good statements. I’ve read the comments and most of them seem to focus there and interpret this guy as a GOP E shill at worst, at best, as a confused back bencher who has not the slightest clue what he’s talking about.

From all else he said, that was good and we would agree with, I take those three words in context to mean that they OFFER stuff that appears to solve people’s problems, not that it solves anything. In other words they are proactive, agressive, on offense. They out talk, out hustle, out organize and they don’t shy away from THEIR ideology but they are banging the drum on it every minute of every day.

It was on THAT point, the guy was saying our side - the conservative tea party side he was speaking to - should emulate the Democrats.


18 posted on 08/23/2013 2:56:30 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Olog-hai; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson

Here’s a clue what counter solutions he might have been talking about.

He was asked to speak to a Tea Party event and he did.

He was trying to rev up that Tea Party group to unabashedly do their thing like the Dems unabashedly do theirs.

Do you know what the Tea Party stands for?

If you do, then you know what kind of solutions he was talking to them about advancing - the cause of the Tea Party.

What has happened on this thread is his quote of three words - not a good word choice to reflect his speech them - is taken out of its context.

The other words that he said were good words. Pro pedal to the metal activism, no holes barred issue stands, Tea Party solutions, Ted Cruz as a role model, making fun of the GOP E and Boehner and their utter fecklessness, timidity, fear of conservative ideology, inability to communicate or organize their way out of a paper bag, etc.

It’s all in there, when you read the rest of what he said and know he spoke it to a Tea Party group.

To get hung up and miss the rest only happens when you rip three words out from the rest and pretend that that those three are all he said, and when you pretend not to notice he is a Tea Party advocate.


19 posted on 08/23/2013 3:11:10 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

3 words can mean a lot. So can 1.

Like if he called conservatives “heartless” he can say goodbye to his audience. If he makes his living with words he should choose them more carefully.


20 posted on 08/23/2013 3:16:55 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: ApplegateRanch

Doesnt matter they Squash Republicans by appealing to the basest human emotions Jealousy,envy and greed. All Republicans do is say ,we will cut your taxes,goes in one ear and out the other,democrats get all emotional,that is why they win,in other words they have NO shame.
This guy is spot on,Rush Limbaugh has made millions,How,saying what? What we all have known to be true,we love this Country,it is the Greatest Country on the face of the earth,but we have become ashamed to say it,to stand up for it and allowed the Real race baiters and haters to cow us into silence,we yell at the TV and the Radio,vent our frustrations there,while the Democrat commies are in the Streets signing up every illegal to vote for them,providing every vice to their willing Constituents and getting the votes.
You wonder why a smart,accomplished man like Ted Cruz will rock the political world now? I dont,we have had Idiots leading the Republican Party,nominating Rinos who believe in Nothing but High paid ass holes like Karl Rove,they may have won a few but where has that gotten the Country?
I like Cruz ,I want to hear more,if he continues to be unashamed and can be an individual who can articulate a CASE that has been missing since Ronald Reagan,I will support him to the hilt,Im tired of apologizing for My Country,leave that to the Communists running the Democrat party


21 posted on 08/23/2013 3:18:30 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: GeronL

It’s easier to lie to yourself, make excuses for RINOs and their Propaganda, then bitch at conservatives for not going along.


22 posted on 08/23/2013 3:18:42 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson

“his speech them” = his speech theme


23 posted on 08/23/2013 3:18:49 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I don’t make excuses for RINO’s and their propaganda

I have no use for them, period.


24 posted on 08/23/2013 3:20:48 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

No, not you. I was just making an offhand comment about people on this thread who are...on this thread.


25 posted on 08/23/2013 3:22:38 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

And this “false debate” sounds like the Democrats trying to deflect scandals and attempts to defund ObamaCare.

This guy needs to pick his words more carefully.


26 posted on 08/23/2013 3:23:54 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Thats exactly what it is. Just like when Perry spouted off on smart fencing to avoid border security.

We are lousy with dems. I don’t care how loud their defenders scream. You cannot stand in defense of democrat ideas, support them, fight to stop conservatives...and BE conservative. Thats what Perry did, thats what this idiot did and thats what most R’s do every day in DC.

Anyone still supporting that deserves all the scorn heaped on them. Because I fail to see the difference between one of ‘us’ doing it and a dem doing the same exact thing.


27 posted on 08/23/2013 3:30:19 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

This Deace guy seems to be with us but the phrases he uses are just weird sometimes. It’s like a freeper on the air who often forgets to use scare quotes and sarcasm tags. Stop using their terms like “false debates”. You might mean it the opposite of the way that Obama and Pelosi use it, but why use it?


28 posted on 08/23/2013 3:33:49 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

For me, seeing someone use the terms of the left has always led to later discovery of more leftist connections. It never fails. People that use those terms do so out of familiarity with them. He’s comfortable with it. Huge red flag.


29 posted on 08/23/2013 3:42:23 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I’m not just a talk-show host; I’m an activist,” Deace said.

If "activist" means "smart aleck who likes to stir things up and then stand back and watch the results," then I guess he's an "activist." My mother used to listen to him until she started wondering if he was actually sabotaging Republican candidates one by one until they were all unacceptable to anyone.

Mr. niteowl77

30 posted on 08/23/2013 3:43:10 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: txrangerette
The Tea Party unfortunately is not a uniform conservative movement. It has lots of libertarians in it. They need to know what they stand for themselves, especially after getting burned so easily by GOP establishment RINOs.

Deace co-authored a book claiming it was the “Christian right” that went wrong (in the subtitle) versus the GOP. (And oh yes; he endorsed Gingrich in 2011.)

Ultimately there is no good context that you can put a phrase like “Democrats offer solutions” into. Either the Dems offer actual solutions or instead offer lies, and one has to say so, as well as pointing out how and where Dems create the problems they offer purported “solutions” to.
31 posted on 08/23/2013 3:51:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Norm Lenhart

Exactly so. Just like the “personal conservative” that unabashedly upheld liberal politicking in government when in power. (Is that phrase still used, or has it finally been seen through?)


32 posted on 08/23/2013 3:54:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

It will come out again when needed. Because people will lie themselves into believing it because...

Sing it with me...

“The dems are worse”

Sure they are. The R makes it all better.


33 posted on 08/23/2013 3:56:42 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Nationally syndicated talk-radio host Steve Deace, an Iowa native who has built a national brand as an in-house critic of the conservative movement, says Democrats are out-gunning Republicans on strategy and message.
Sure, but what's his FR nick?


34 posted on 08/23/2013 4:16:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who are all these people jumping on this guy for 3 words that are being mis-construed? (not even taking out of context)

I understand exactly what the guy said, and the reaction by some on this post is why our side is barely treading water.

Here’s an example of a democrat ‘solution’: Gun Buy Back programs. Now of course, we KNOW it doesn’t solve anything, but where’s the opposition from our side? Yeah, we’ll set up a table to offer more money, and hope we don’t get knocked upside the head by the local cops. But wouldn’t it be cool if on Gun Buy Back Day, and few GOP state reps showed up at the 2nd Amendment table?

Seems his criticizing the GOP where it needs to be criticized: Lack of a coherent message, unwillingness to fight on principles; in short, allowing the other side to dictate the rules of engagement. I for one have been preaching against this for years. And the worst flaw is too many on our side can’t wait to throw someone overboard for the slightest thing, while the other side ALWAYS circle the wagons around their own.

We don’t have to emulate an enemy, but when they are making advances, and we are not, we should at least take a look at what they are doing, and learn from it.

Gotta run, folks. jimjohn - OUT.


35 posted on 08/23/2013 4:22:55 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: jimjohn

Who did he endorse back in 2011?


36 posted on 08/23/2013 4:59:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Wasn’t he kicked off WHO Radio in Des Moines ?


37 posted on 08/23/2013 5:03:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Doug Loss

I have heard of him. His radio show airs in the DC area on 730 AM/102.9 FM 9 pm-midnight during the week.

He has the same bumper music going in and out of breaks, “We won’t get fooled again” by the Who, for all three hours of his show, which gets a little maddening. I’ve tried listening to him (his major talk competition in his time slot in Washington is the wiener nation, Michael Savage from 9-11 and the lisper, John Batchelor, from 11-1 on WMAL 630/105.9).

Deace mixes conservatism with evangelical Protestantism. While I tend to agree with him on politics, he’s just OK to listen to; not the greatest. Lars Larson is a better late night radio host than Deace, but he’s not on in the DC area so far as I know. WTNT once had Rusty Humphries on their air; I don’t think Deace is any better than Rusty.


38 posted on 08/23/2013 5:07:20 AM PDT by nd76
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Two years ago that happened. He claimed that the radio station asked him to reconsider.

He seems like a rather odd fellow. Interesting story here . . .
In the past few weeks, Deace’s behavior has been odd. Nothing caught my attention more than when he suddenly announced that he was going to run for Polk County GOP Chairman on Tuesday night, just hours before the vote was scheduled. At the time, I wondered why a radio show host, who already has a 50,000-watt platform that he uses to advocate for his beliefs and the candidates he supports would want to deal with the responsibilities of leading a county political party? That decision now makes a little more sense. …

39 posted on 08/23/2013 5:09:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ApplegateRanch
So did Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Debbs, FDR, Castro, Mugabe, and Obama. There solutions were invariably worse than the problem.

That was going to be my comment...

40 posted on 08/23/2013 5:27:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (- - NSA - The only part of government that actually listens...Joe Kovacs)
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To: Olog-hai

What stations is he on now ?


41 posted on 08/23/2013 5:36:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
There is a list of affiliate stations on Deace’s website here.
42 posted on 08/23/2013 5:43:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Eric in the Ozarks
I must say that I am not fond of Deace’s slogan “Fear God, tell the truth, make money” . . . sounds like serving two masters.
43 posted on 08/23/2013 5:45:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why does the nation need to change? From what? To what? Or is”change” just a false idol some people worship in pursuit of Eden? How are any of the changes we’ve seen in the last 50 years improvements? “Different” is not the same as “better.”


44 posted on 08/23/2013 6:10:48 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Olog-hai

The page shows him still on WHO...


45 posted on 08/23/2013 6:16:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
WHO’s own page shows Deace back on too, from 10 pm to midnight. That is even stranger.
46 posted on 08/23/2013 10:05:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL
They have solutions to nothing, these ideas solve nothing.

He will agree with you 100%.

Denouncing someone on the basis of reading a website's one page profile, without listening to his show...I'm not sure that's a good idea. I am telling you, there is nothing kooky there...

47 posted on 08/23/2013 7:24:24 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Maybe we DON'T wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Democrat Average Joe: "Health care SUCKS!!!"
Obama: "My solution: Obamacare! I say whatever lie I want, and you will eat it up!"
DAJ: "YES!" "FINALLY!" A REAL solution!"

Trust me. That is what he meant.

48 posted on 08/23/2013 7:27:41 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Maybe we DON'T wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin!)
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