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Some House Republicans pretty ďangryĒ that Boehner canít get Cruz to shut up and sit down
Hot Air ^ | September 15, 2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/15/2013 5:55:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

This report is coming from The Hill and relies pretty much on “Republican lawmakers” and staffers “speaking on condition of anonymity” so factor that in. But given what we’ve heard from some other members over the last couple of months, I wouldn’t find it terribly surprising if this were true.

Republican lawmakers are growing increasingly frustrated with what they say is a lack of communication from their leaders.

Both centrist and conservative members in the House believe that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his lieutenants could have done more earlier this year to counter the Tea Party’s effort to defund ObamaCare. Some Republicans on Capitol Hill say such an effort is politically impossible with a Democratic-controlled Senate and a Democrat in the White House. Regardless, the rift on what to do on ObamaCare has opened up a civil war within the GOP.

The complaint is similar to ones we’ve heard before, citing people who warned the Speaker to “get out in front” of the issue of demands to defund Obamacare, shutting down the government, etc. etc. before it turned into a civil war in the press. And, of course, Ted Cruz is cited as the chief fly in the ointment. The new complaint is that the leadership spent too much time fundraising for 2014 and failed to communicate with the members.

One member, however, was willing to go on the record and said that the communications problem wasn’t between Boehner and the members… it was that the Speaker isn’t listening to the voters.

“The leadership, because of other obligations they have during the August recess to raise money and meet with groups, may not have had as many town hall meetings in their specific districts as rank-and-file members, and so they may not have been aware of how strongly the message was delivered to those of us who did stay in our districts the entire August recess,” Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) said.

One last pair of gems from this selection of quotes… also anonymous.

“Boehner should have shut it down before we left … Cruz started talking about this before we left and Boehner should have said, ‘We’re not doing that and this is why.’ Just shut it down!,” the legislator said.

Many GOP lawmakers share that frustration privately and several have gone so far as to call their party “leaderless.”

“Here we are complaining about a president who can’t lead [on Syria], who leads us into this morass and we’re doing the same things to ourselves on ObamaCare, on the debt ceiling,” one conservative complained.

If you read the entire report, it seems that the only person they could find who actually supported Cruz on the Obamacare question was Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) who called it an opportunity of a lifetime. Others, such as John Shimkus and Presidential hopeful Peter King both wanted to find some way to say, can’t we all just get along?

If this reporting were even remotely close to being a representative sample of Congress, it would make it sound as if Cruz is pretty much fighting on a team that numbers in single digits. That sounds fairly unlikely, but we won’t know the real numbers until some of these budget questions begin coming up for a vote – assuming the House can agree on anything to vote on – in the next few weeks.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: boehner; cruz; gop4obama; gop4romneycare; obamacare; romneyagenda; romneycare; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; tedcruz
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1 posted on 09/15/2013 5:55:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure the collectivist, Establishment Pubbies said the same thing about Reagan, too.


2 posted on 09/15/2013 5:56:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP will not be happy until ObamaCARE does for
America what RomneyCARE did for Massachusetts.

Fewer docs, much longer waits, more illegals,
and much higher rates.


3 posted on 09/15/2013 6:00:03 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, there you go.
Apparently, the house Republicans do not realize Cruz is in the senate.


4 posted on 09/15/2013 6:01:30 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Another line has been drawn. This time there are 20 million voters standing on it daring Congress to approve a budget with obamacare in its funding.


5 posted on 09/15/2013 6:03:01 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many GOP lawmakers share that frustration privately and several have gone so far as to call their party “leaderless.”

Well, they got that right but for the wrong reason.

“Here we are complaining about a president who can’t lead [on Syria], who leads us into this morass and we’re doing the same things to ourselves on ObamaCare, on the debt ceiling,” one conservative complained.

Why am I thinking this is no "conservative"?

6 posted on 09/15/2013 6:04:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That balances out the rest of the country. Decent Americans are irritated that Cruz can’t get Boehner to shut up and sit down.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 6:05:37 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Another line has been drawn. This time there are 20 million voters standing on it daring Congress to approve a budget with obamacare in its funding.

The mantra I like is, "If you fund it, you own it."
Every stinking congresscritter needs to hear those words, over and over and over again.

8 posted on 09/15/2013 6:06:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Awww, sorry guys, we’ve been infiltrating the party since the Gingrich revolution and that’s just accelerated with the Tea Party, and we aren’t stopping till we take over. Sorry if you don’t think that’s fair but you had your shot and ya blew it.


9 posted on 09/15/2013 6:06:20 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you’re taking flak....


10 posted on 09/15/2013 6:12:24 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Pollster1

Ah, the truth finally expounded! Cruz should be the Speaker instead of Boehner! Have had it up to my ears with this pansy group of Republicans led by the liberal Boehner!


11 posted on 09/15/2013 6:14:26 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Pollster1

Decent Americans are disgusted with Boehner and wish that Cruz was the Speaker!


12 posted on 09/15/2013 6:15:32 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All of us elected our house reps. and senators to do a job. That job did not include taking orders from some Republican in the House or Senate. It appears when someone is elected, no matter what they stood for during their election process, they go to Washington and have to do whatever their “leader” says do.

A pox on that. Since that is the case, I'd be in trouble the first day because I would represent the people who sent me and ignore Boehner and McConnell. Guess I wouldn't get any committee assignments - at least I could live with myself.

13 posted on 09/15/2013 6:19:10 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: svcw

Or rather the author writing the propaganda piece does not.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 6:20:53 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Republican lawmakers” and staffers “speaking on condition of anonymity”

Ah, ha....no "Named Sources" = meaningless drivel.

15 posted on 09/15/2013 6:22:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” “Republican lawmakers” and staffers “speaking on condition of anonymity””

Gutless cowards.


16 posted on 09/15/2013 6:25:05 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RINO’s are really upset with a mouthy conservative, lol.

The RINO’s are revolting


17 posted on 09/15/2013 6:27:46 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: svcw

bump


18 posted on 09/15/2013 6:28:09 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Deagle

Speaker should be a Senator?

Well, is that even possible??


19 posted on 09/15/2013 6:29:33 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hi 2ndDV, I hope you are well. I’m glad you posted this. Thank you for your always timely, and interesting posts; especially the recurring one on the value of a handgun.

I emailed my Representative (James Lankford) a month ago, shortly before the recess. He is Chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee. He is the most junior in Republican leadership. I asked, in my email, what I thought would result in a straightforward answer. It got no direct answer. My simple question was, “can I count on your support in not approving a CR that funds the Affordable Care Act (obamacare)?” He sent me a lengthy list of all the repeal bills he supported. He did not answer the question. I let him know that I would not be supporting him, financially or with my vote in 2014. He knows that I maxed out with contributions to our AG and Lt. Gov. He is a charlatan.

BTW, his undergrad degree was from UT Austin.

Again, thank you for posting this.

Gwjack


20 posted on 09/15/2013 6:30:04 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: gwjack

Thank you for the kind words.


21 posted on 09/15/2013 6:33:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: GeronL

Next election...


22 posted on 09/15/2013 6:34:00 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I kind of like the way that the Republican “leadership” is losing control of the rank and file. Since earmarks were taken away from the porkmeisters, committee positions don’t seem to mean that much meaning that the leadership has that much less of a carrot & stick to cajole their membership with.


23 posted on 09/15/2013 6:37:28 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: GeronL

Or in-house rebellion against Boehner! Wishing for same.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 6:37:32 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: svcw
Well, there you go. Apparently, the house Republicans do not realize Cruz is in the senate.

Totally brilliant observation

25 posted on 09/15/2013 6:38:36 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Sparticus

Ah yes! Doesn’t it just suck that our Republican poiiticians can NOT continue to buy us with their pork projects! Geez, how in the world did this ever become such a problem!


26 posted on 09/15/2013 6:39:03 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP is dead. The party is over.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 6:39:49 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: svcw

So this article is just made up.......hahaha busted!


28 posted on 09/15/2013 6:40:57 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: McGavin999

Heh, totally missed that earlier but heck maybe a rebellion in the house might get Cruz pushed to a higher position in the Senate... Now a bit ashamed of my comments although I knew he was in the Senate, I went along without thinking...ha.

Still wish he was Speaker in the Senate...heh.


29 posted on 09/15/2013 6:46:07 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want the names of these turncoats!

Cruz is the leader of the party now, deal with it, RINOS. Bohner can cower in fear until retirement.


30 posted on 09/15/2013 6:57:16 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

Interesting question. Weirdly enough, the speakership seemingly could be anyone. They don’t have to be a member of the House.


31 posted on 09/15/2013 6:58:43 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

There is no rule that the speaker of the house must be a member of the house. I believe it would be possible to allow Cruz to be both a Senator from Texas and Speaker of the House.

Frankly I think Palin should be speaker of the house.


32 posted on 09/15/2013 7:02:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Name those ‘some’ Republicans. Name them!


33 posted on 09/15/2013 7:08:58 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All of those unnamed RINOs should be thrown out during this coming election cycle.....but then I dream


34 posted on 09/15/2013 7:10:00 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Deagle

we tried to push for a rebellion against Boehner in January when they re-elected him Speaker. It didn’t happen


35 posted on 09/15/2013 7:31:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: P-Marlowe

Palin as Speaker would cause quite a stir


36 posted on 09/15/2013 7:31:51 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jane Long
Not only meaningless drivel, but it's from "The Hill", one of the journolistas favorite outlets to confuse and berate conservatives.

Watch how many mindless bitchings this thread hatches.......

37 posted on 09/15/2013 7:34:59 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TheOldLady; AllAmericanGirl44; ken5050; stephenjohnbanker; LUV W; Patty; itssme; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!


38 posted on 09/15/2013 7:38:02 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go, Ted, GO!!


39 posted on 09/15/2013 7:39:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks, SCP...already commented at post #15. I call BS when sources aren’t named.


40 posted on 09/15/2013 7:39:29 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Time for Boehner to give a stirring speech clearly stating his attitude and aims.

Even though large tracts of America has fallen or may fall into the grip of the Democratic Party and all the odious apparatus of socialist rule, we shall flag and fail. We shall not go on to the end. We shall not fight in DC, we shall not fight on the seas and oceans.... We shall surrender on the beaches, we shall surrender on the landing grounds, we shall surrender in the fields and in the streets, we shall surrender in the hills; we shall always surrender.

41 posted on 09/15/2013 7:42:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Why is our military going to be used as Al Qaeda's air force in Syria?)
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To: GeronL

And if I remember, It got his attention! This is not something that should be stopped but continued and eventually it might even wake Boehner up! Well, not really make him into a non-RINO but may just give him pause - enough to allow real Conservatives to play...


42 posted on 09/15/2013 7:43:02 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Deagle

bump


43 posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SoConPubbie; Colonel_Flagg; mylife; NYTexan; penelopesire; onyx; Jim Robinson; All
Some House Republicans pretty “angry” that Boehner can’t get Cruz to shut up and sit down

Thank you, Ted Cruz, for standing up and standing for something!

44 posted on 09/15/2013 8:14:35 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The power of the purse in the house is enormous. A speaker with manhood (a eunuch has more than Boehner) would say, “Read my lips: no new taxes,” and walk out of any meeting where they are mentioned.

I can dream...


45 posted on 09/15/2013 8:24:07 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These jackasses are helping the Dems destroy this once-great country with their fecklessness. All they have to do is pass a budget excluding Obamacare and then tell the Senate and Obama to pound sand if they don't like it.

Everybody at our company is freaking out because of the annual enrollment and the changes that will take place. Me, I am not signing up for any Obamacare/government exchange, I am not paying the fine, and I'm doing all my healthcare overseas until the damn thing collapses. I am not putting my faith into the Stupid Party to do the right thing and defund it, which they should've done 2 years ago.

46 posted on 09/15/2013 8:24:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One thing missing from this debate....STAFFERS!
Not the ones that answer the phones or do goffer work....Im talking about the backroom a$$wipes. No one knows their names outside of DC yet these sleazy slimey scumbags think they are the ELITES. They move from one member of congress to another...often are shared.

This is the group that needs to be exposed..NAMES!


47 posted on 09/15/2013 9:17:05 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: svcw

perhaps the journalist that wrote this didn’t know the difference from senate and representatives. Or its all an outright lie...


48 posted on 09/15/2013 9:45:00 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: GeronL
"Speaker should be a Senator?...Well, is that even possible??"

Yes. Article 1, Sec. 2 of the Constitution states only that the House shall choose their Speaker. There is no tacit requirement that the Speaker actually be a member of the House.

49 posted on 09/15/2013 9:49:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: LUV W

Amen! Going along to get along has no value.


50 posted on 09/15/2013 10:09:22 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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