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Say no to GOP Suicide
Jewish World Review ^ | September 25, 2013 | Dick Morris

Posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:20 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy

The Republican base must not require its representatives in Congress to run off a cliff and commit suicide as the price of avoiding a primary challenge in 2014. The Tea Party must not eat its young.

Polling shows that there are nowhere near the pre-conditions in place that would be necessary for a government shutdown over defunding ObamaCare. Americans oppose defunding it by 44 percent to 38 percent, according to a recent CNBC All-America Economic Survey — and when it comes to shutting down the government to force its defunding, opposition swells to 19-59. To force Republican congressmen to side with the 19s against the 59s is to endanger the gains the party made in 2010 and hasten the day of Democratic control of the House.

How do voters reconcile their opposition to ObamaCare with their opposition to a government shutdown to defund it? Think of the issue of teachers' pay and schools: voters strongly favor increases in teacher pay, but they just as strongly oppose teacher strikes, which close down schools as a way of achieving higher pay.

The whole idea of a government shutdown is a huge negative, implying a total instability of the two parties to co-exist or to govern. And polling suggests that voters are far more likely to blame Republicans for gridlock and conflict in Washington than Democrats. Instead of baiting its supporters to shut down the government to defund ObamaCare, the Tea Party and base voters should be demanding a firm stand on increasing the debt limit. While voters feel there is nothing positive to be achieved by shutting down the government, they do agree with stopping additional government borrowing until or unless there are substantial cuts in spending.

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TOPICS: Issues; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz
Not that this is surprising coming from Dick Morris. I'm so tired of these Vichy Republicans. I guarantee even if the Republicans followed his advice he would change his mind and advise that they can't risk a government shutdown over the debt ceiling either. Enough of these Vichy Collaborateur GOPe types. Looks like even Ted Cruz won't be able to shame them into being part of the Resistance to Obamacare's tyranny.
1 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:20 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Go suck a toe.

We’re trying to save Western Civilization over here.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:59 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Listening to all the crapola about Cruz today, all I could think of was the follwoing:

"We must be over the target since the flak is thick."

3 posted on 09/25/2013 12:00:46 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Let's run off the Obamacare cliff instead!!!
4 posted on 09/25/2013 12:00:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Stuff it Dick Morris. Out here in Middle Earth this Obamacare mess is costing and hurting. I care more about our lives and this country than the GOP.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 12:01:02 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Dick Morris never called an election right.How would he know about what the people want?


6 posted on 09/25/2013 12:02:51 PM PDT by spincaster (Spincaster)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

How was the poll worded? Did they know government funding was in place and Obamacare only was defunded?


7 posted on 09/25/2013 12:02:56 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

The Republicans can go pound sand


8 posted on 09/25/2013 12:04:20 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Paid for by OFA, the people who brought you the Gang of Eight, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and Hillary Clinton.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 12:04:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Morris told us Romney would win big. His advice meaningless.

I want to hear from advisors who stood with Reagan on his 2 epic victories.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 12:05:01 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Dick Morris says that the Republicans should refrain from seeking to fund the whole government while defunding Obamacare but should seek to shut down the government in order to cut people's entitlements.

He cites poll data to show that the people would rather have their Rice bowl taken away from them than be relieved of Obamacare.

Did Dick Morris make any predictions about the 2012 presidential election? The congressional elections? Did he base any of his predictions on polling data?


11 posted on 09/25/2013 12:05:50 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

SURRENDER NOW!

The only way to win is not to fight! Don't risk defeat, capitulation is better! Run away!!!
12 posted on 09/25/2013 12:07:15 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: RginTN

If you want to hear from somebody who stood by Reagan you should listed to what Mark Levin said on his show yesterday. The GOP-e (Ford, the Bushes, Howard Baker, etc) hated Reagan’s guts, just like Cruz.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 12:08:43 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
The sage advise we are getting is from the people who got us into this mess.

The republicans through their judgments and poor leadership are the losers responsible for the predicament in which we find ourselves.

We should consider that when we listen to their wisdom.

14 posted on 09/25/2013 12:09:40 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I am so done with the GOP. Absolutely done.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:24 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Hunt RINOs.
Catch RINOS.
Hang RINOs.
Kill all RINOs.

Let none escape the justice due traitors.


16 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:41 PM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

The established morons are not our “young”

We need to replace the shadow Democrats with conservatives


17 posted on 09/25/2013 12:11:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Why?


18 posted on 09/25/2013 12:13:55 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I’ve stuck up for him but from now on, when he has his own prime-time show on FNC, maybe I’ll listen to him. Not before.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Is it GOP suicide to lay down all pretense of fighting for anything but your jobs or to fight like civilization depended on it. I would rather die in battle than in craven surrender. If the GOP does not engage the fight with Cruz they are dead anyway.

It is time to sound the Horn of Rohan and ride out and fight to the end, surrender means the end of hope in Middle Earth. Ted Cruz is our Aragorn, and McCain our very own Grima Wormtongue.

The Horn of Helm Hammerhand will sound in the deep, one last time! .... Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and the red dawn.

20 posted on 09/25/2013 12:15:02 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Dick Morris is a Bill Clinton operative.
He sounds kind of semi-conservative at times but that's not what he is.

21 posted on 09/25/2013 12:22:34 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

NEVER AGAIN!


22 posted on 09/25/2013 12:24:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Hey Dick, when have you been right about anything?


23 posted on 09/25/2013 12:25:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Het dickie boy. We’re not trying to eat our young; were trying to retire the old and spineless RINOS.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 12:28:30 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: GeronL
The established morons are not our “young”


Nope, they are more like old buzzards. Classic case of projecting, as the GOPe are riding hell bent for leather to stop the young Tea Party patriots from fighting for liberty. These establishment folks are unashamedly siding with the democrats in the process. How they do not see that as going over a cliff I do not know.
25 posted on 09/25/2013 12:28:49 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Lera

They keep trying to paint this falsely. It is the Democrats who will shut down the gov’t with their schemes. It’s twisting to sell the lie as anything else.

And Dick Morris apparently believes the lie and/or is selling same.

DEFUND OBAMACARE THE TRAINWRECK.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 12:29:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Another Dick heard from...


27 posted on 09/25/2013 12:31:28 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: forgotten man

I did hear Levin’s show that’s why I included Reagan’s advisors in my post.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 12:32:55 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

if the R party permits Ocare to continue, I, for one, will not support any R candidate. Period.
Nor will I vote for them.

Ocare is the leading example of what is destroying USA and the American economy.

It is, therefore, a key issue... and a flagship for what’s going wrong.

There is no point at all in voting or paying for R candidates if they vote for the extremist/communist agenda of the left-wing usurpers that have taken over control of the Dem party

better to stay home, and use the money to invest instead

a pox on both their houses, since the have chosen to shack up together in one big socialist, antiAmerican hippie condo, anyway


29 posted on 09/25/2013 12:39:12 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Sorry Morris..The GOP slashed their carotid long ago and I am sick of applying pressure to stop the bleeding.


30 posted on 09/25/2013 12:45:11 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

The GOP is already committing suicide by not fighting.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 12:54:03 PM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Go suck a ...

body part.

32 posted on 09/25/2013 12:54:06 PM PDT by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Triangulation is for sissies.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 12:56:28 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
according to a recent CNBC All-America Economic Survey

Ahhhhh No one but ComDems listen to CNBC!

34 posted on 09/25/2013 12:58:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: forgotten man

I remember that.


35 posted on 09/25/2013 1:03:46 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

So Dick, why should I support the Repubs?
Vote for us, we aren’t quite as bad as them.

Pray America is Waking Up


36 posted on 09/25/2013 1:04:47 PM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Morris is watching his paycheck dwindle. He’s the problem.


37 posted on 09/25/2013 1:15:06 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Dick Morris is entertaining and good at interpreting polls, lousy at prognostication, but probably correct about how the Dem Media will try to spin this.

The Republicans worst problem is not entirely their fault though. The two dominant spokespeople for the Republicans in the MSM are Lindsy Graham and John McCain, who are probably invited by the networks directly not sent by the GOP. Republicans would actually stand a chance of winning the Low information voters if they actually had republicans speaking where they get their info.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 1:42:35 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: F15Eagle

Cheese-eating surrender monkeys they have all become .
Worse than the French they are


39 posted on 09/25/2013 1:57:25 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: SERKIT

>>>Another Dick heard from...>>>

LOLZ

And I say that as a woman who NEVER uses the word in the pejorative sense.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 2:09:50 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

He should be forced to legally change his last name.

From:
Morris

To:
Head.

First name to remain the same.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 3:19:38 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
If Morris is right, we have to implement ObamaCare for the low-information pukes to find out what's in it (that is, if, even now, their dependents are still covered, and they're still working more than 29 hours a week).

However, according to Rasmussen (17 Sep), 51% Favor Government Shutdown Until Congress Cuts Health Care Funding.

42 posted on 09/25/2013 3:30:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Geesh, another concern troll.


43 posted on 09/25/2013 3:36:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: cynwoody
If Morris is right, we have to implement ObamaCare for the low-information pukes to find out what's in it (that is, if, even now, their dependents are still covered, and they're still working more than 29 hours a week).

However, according to Rasmussen (17 Sep), 51% Favor Government Shutdown Until Congress Cuts Health Care Funding.


I really do not understand why so many are pretending Obamacare is some great popular law. It's not, it has never been.

I wasn't following Dick Morris way back when. Is he one of these “we need to let the dems win to teach people a lesson, so they love us again” types?

44 posted on 09/25/2013 3:36:50 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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