Skip to comments.Flagler Democrats Will Demonstrate For Obamacare in Front of Health Department Tuesday
Posted on 09/30/2013 8:35:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The other voices.
Members of the Flagler County Democratic Club will gather at noon Tuesday in front of the Flagler County Health Department on Dr. Carter Boulevard in Bunnell to celebrate the first day of the enactment of the Affordable Care Actand to protest Floridas many obstructions against the health law known as Obamacare.
The health department at 301 Dr. Carter Boulevard is not a visible place: its at the end of a little-trafficked side street, and the noon demonstration is scheduled for only an hour. But Democrats chose the health department because state Department of Health ordered all its county affiliates to prohibit use of the facility by federally supported navigators helping Floridians enroll in health insurance plans under the new law. Florida refused to set up health insurance exchanges in line with the law, leaving it to the federal government to do so.
Why are all these people saying its a disaster, its terrible, we should stop it, we shouldnt have it, its going to hurt jobs and everything else? Merrill Shapiro, who heads the local Democratic Club, said. They dont know but their voices are being heard and the people who are happy with it, their voices are not, so thats our goal, to have those voices heard.
Though it passed and was upheld by the Supreme Court, the debate over the health law has been dominated by naysayers, Shapiro said, creating a false impression about the support that it does have. The demonstration is to have voices heard to say, despite all the scare tactics, there are people who are excited about having affordable health care, he said, that there are people who are excited about people who have been previously not able to get health insurance, will have an opportunity to insure themselves and have access to quality health care like so many Americans who are able.
Its an unusual move by the local Democrats, whoother than a small show of force before the general election on Belle Terre Parkway, in front of Kohlshave not organized demonstrations or protests as has, say, the local tea party group. There is an interest in the Democratic club of being more aggressive, to take to the streets, hold up signs and protest various things that oppose our agenda, so this is a trial balloon, Shapiro said. I dont know how many people will show up. The response is very positive.
Patrick Johnson, director of the Flagler County Health Department, had not been aware of the planned protest until a reporter informed him of it late last week. Its pretty darn unusual, Johnson said. Ive really never come across a protest at our facility, its actually not our facility, its the countys facility, so the rules about that are the county rules.
There are just 56 parking spots at the facility, and about 150 customers use the department each day. Johnson was concerned about those customers privacy. If it has no issues about our patients and doesnt affect them coming in and leaving its a non-issue for us, Johnson said, though he was not enthusiastic about it. Hes also defended the states order to deny navigator access to his facility.
Im a military guy, so I dont quite understand it, Johnson said. Ive never been someone to protest, Ive never understood that whole concept.
The health department building belongs to county government, so its regulated by county rules when it comes to such things as protests. Joe Mayer, the countys facilities director, summed up expectations for Tuesday this way: We would ask that anyone who would be attending the event park at the old hospital/future Sheriffs operations office, so as not to inhibit the health departments clientele from accessing that service. Also, we would ask that the demonstrations be curtailed to the grassy area to the west of the health department. With this concerted cooperation from the Democratic club, both the health departments operations and the attendees for this event will be a success.
Shapiro said he would be emailing Johnson and the sheriffs office to let everyone know that we intend to stay to the sidewalks, not block entrances or exits to the building and allow anyone to pass who wants to and not to disturb the peace in any way. He said the protesters dont even intend to address customers at the department.
Dave Sullivan, who heads the Flagler County Republican Executive Committee, said there are no plans from his side to protestlet alone supportthe new law. There are many, many questions about Obamacare as to whether it will really help or hurt in the long run, Sullivan said, and the view of Republicans is: we should have come up with a better bill that would in the long run helped everyone if we had been willing to do a little back and forth when it was passed originally. But, Sullivan said, he was supportive of the actions Florida has taken against the law to date.
Republicans have opposed the new law but have not come up with alternatives different from the status quo that existed before it passed in 2010. They have nevertheless kept up a drumbeat of criticism, made Obamacare the centerpiece of their attempt to defeat Barack Obama in the 2012 election, and have continued to attempt to derail his presidency since. Congressional Republicans voted to defund Obamacare and alternatively, have refused to approve a new budget with Obamacare included. That has led to a stand-off with the Senateand the very strong likelihood of a government shut-down starting at a minute after midnight on Tuesday, the same day of the planned protest in front of the health department.
Various aspects of the health law have already kicked in, such as expanded coverage for preventive care, the end of lifetime caps on insurance coverage, and an allowance for adult children, up to age 26, to remain on their parents insurance. But beginning Tuesday, most of the 45 million Americans without health insurance will be required to buy insurance, and those who cant afford it will be eligible for federal subsidies to enable them to have insurance. Also, insurance companies will no longer be allowed to end an insurance policy if someone becomes sick, and insurers will be prohibited from turning anyone down for having a pre-existing condition, as insurers routinely did until now.
Political and logistical opposition aside, the health law has been subjected to a ceaseless barrage of misinformation and false claims, such as the notorious, and notoriously false, invention of death panels that Sarah Palin popularized, or that it is a government take-over of health care. The health laws central premise is built on the private insurance market, which stands to make the greatest lucrative gains from Obamacares enactment. The Tampa Bay Times Politifacts last week released the 16 greatest myths about the new health law.
We just find that the mythology of Obamacare has taken on a life of its own, Shapiro said. There are still people who think there are going to be death panels. It stuns us.
Which state ???
Hmmm. Probably to be repeated soon in the St Augustine Record, which gives major coverage to every little group of elderly Unitarians who turn out to “protest” some imagined injustice. The Record especially loved it when the Unitarians were down at the Bridge of Lions “protesting” George Bush (although it was unclear why), even though the Record had to take the photo very carefully to make it look as if there were more than 3 of them.
I hate Florida Unitarians.
Anybody want to guess how many of these morons actually sign up?
In reality...Flagler County....which is mainly elderly folks....probably has more Anti-Obamacare folks...because Medicare is being gutted to support ObamaCare
Doubt these folks protesting are even from Flagler County