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McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”
Hot Air ^ | October 11, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/13/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The key bit comes at the very end, in response to a question about who’s responsible for the temporary suspension of death benefits to families of fallen troops. McCain’s answer: Everyone in Congress — but, implicitly, especially the “defund” caucus. You can tell how eager Maverick was to make that point by how quickly he turns a segment about the administration giving short shrift to the military — normally an easy lay-up for a Republican against a Democratic president — into a lament about Cruz et al. I’m not sure a guy who’s positioned himself as the lead Republican opponent of the “wacko birds” should be ruminating on holding people accountable, but if he’s leaning towards not running again in 2016, he’s got nothing to lose. No doubt he’s enjoying sticking it to tea partiers immensely.

If nothing else, this clip illustrates the slightly (but only slightly) exaggerated truth that “there are now two Republican parties.” Case in point:

Tea Party Republicans approve of the job congressional Republicans are doing by a 72%-25% margin. However, a plurality of NON-Tea Party Republicans disapprove by a 49%-42% In addition, 69% of Tea Party Republicans believe the GOP is demonstrating strong leadership and standing up for what they believe in, versus 29% of them who say they’re putting their political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country. But those numbers are reversed among NON-Tea Party Republicans — 53% say they’re putting politics first, while 41% think Republicans are standing up for what they believe in. And then there’s this: Among Tea Party Republicans, Ted Cruz has a 52%-4% fav/unfav rating. But among non-Tea Party it’s 13%-23%.

Either that rift is healed in the next two years or the primary campaign in 2015 is going to be … really something. One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no? He’s a red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection next year; it’s unlikely that he’d break ranks with his caucus, but if any Dem is going to, it’s one who’s in Begich’s position. Instead, he claims, “The only time Ted Cruz said something to me was when I was literally coming to the floor, you know the two tables down by the desk there where you cast your vote. He said, ‘You should vote for this.’ That was it.” Could be that Begich is lying, of course, but if he’s going to lie, there are more self-serving lies he could tell than that one. E.g., “I have grave concerns about ObamaCare, and Senators Cruz and Lee begged to meet with me about them. But once they threatened to shut down the government, I told them ‘Hell, no!’” A lie along those lines would please Alaska GOPers by signaling his alleged “concerns” about O-Care and Alaska Democrats by punching Cruz and Lee. And showing that he was opposed to the shutdown would please both. Instead, he’s making the lesser claim that no one on the defund side ever tried to meet with him. That makes me think it’s true, and if it’s true, why is it true? What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Arizona; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: arizona; assclown; collaborator; cruz; mccain; obamacare; randsconcerntrolls; sellout; shutdown; stfujuan
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1 posted on 10/13/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YOU SON OF A BI@TCH.


2 posted on 10/13/2013 11:03:08 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Despicable self serving bastard!!!


3 posted on 10/13/2013 11:03:41 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw you McCain you POS, just switch to the Democrat party and get it over with.


4 posted on 10/13/2013 11:03:58 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s making a list and checking it twice.


5 posted on 10/13/2013 11:04:06 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WTH??? is loser McCain thinking of running for president again, or do they have some really damaging stuff on him? He has totally lost it.


6 posted on 10/13/2013 11:04:57 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe I voted for this guy.

Well, actually it was more for Sarah. This putz was just along for the ride.


7 posted on 10/13/2013 11:06:07 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hopefully they will be held accountable... with re-election.

And hopefully those who supported the abhorrent failure of ObamaCare will be held accountable as well... with unemployment.

8 posted on 10/13/2013 11:07:20 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Domandred
Screw you McCain you POS, just switch to the Democrat party and get it over with.

And take your fat fool of a daughter with you.

9 posted on 10/13/2013 11:08:30 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It make me ill to remember I voted (with pinched nose) for this nitwit. I should have wrote in zippee the clown.


10 posted on 10/13/2013 11:11:01 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, I hold McLame partially responsible.

What led to this mess?

A President that has never submitted a cogent budget - and none of them were found acceptable to his own party.

A Senate that has never passed a budget since Obama has been in office.

Failure of Congress to follow 'regular order' in that the Senate makes a budget, confers with the House and passes a budget.

Use of "continuing resolutions' in lieu of 'regular order'. CRs are not mentioned in the Constitution.

Failure to get appropriations bills (usually about 14) passed through conference by both chambers.

The use of "Gangs of X" instead of congressional committee work. McLame and Linda were dismal failures.

The use of abusive Executive Orders to bypass the Congress and skate constitutional authority of Congress and create extra-constitutional authority of a run-away President.

A President that rewrites laws after passage, selectively enforces - or fails to fully enforce - laws on the books. (DOMA, Sanctuary Cities, Sequester)

The abuse of a corrupt solicitor general in having the SCOTUS morph a mandate into a tax, and rewriting the constitution on the "origination" concept whereby the court originated a new tax which is clearly the purview of the House - and ONLY he House.

We have an imperial president who openly HATES the Constitution. McLame assured us not to be "skeered" of Obama during his last debate which turned into a concession speech.

Rampant, systemic, and institutionalized voter fraud. The entire nation has had the thuggish antics of Chicago politics fully installed at the White Crib. Obama added the extra factor of Muslim Brotherhood operatives in high offices. This will require a lot of cleansing - much more than simply the Clinton bathtub ring.

Barry, Harry, and SanFranNan are leading an illegal strike. Get back to work, slackers! I'm lookin' at you, too, McLame.

11 posted on 10/13/2013 11:11:40 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, they should be held accountable. They should be rewarded for doing the things that the entire GOP should be doing. They are defending our way of life and our freedom while brainwashed and senile fools like McCain are trying to surrender to the Progressives every way he can—just as he did in 2008 when he fought like hell to win the nomination and then tried like hell to lose the election.


12 posted on 10/13/2013 11:11:44 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is a disgrace and should be run outta Dodge!!


13 posted on 10/13/2013 11:12:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

But the people who created obamacare should not be held accountable??? McCain, you idiot.


14 posted on 10/13/2013 11:12:10 AM PDT by scbison
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here. You can have this back. All those years, we never turned our backs on you. We never abandoned or forgot you. Now you turn, and do this to us? FUJM...
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15 posted on 10/13/2013 11:13:58 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Bryanw92

What an asshat!


16 posted on 10/13/2013 11:14:32 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's the strawberries. It's always the strawberries.

John McCain demonstrates his keen intellect capacity for geometric reasoning

17 posted on 10/13/2013 11:14:40 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indeed. And you’re just the guy to do it, eh John?


18 posted on 10/13/2013 11:15:05 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: scbison

he has slithered and sunk beneath contempt......


19 posted on 10/13/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Held accountable" as in thanking them profusely for fearlessly defending the Constitution and freedom, McLame, you despicable, loathsome POS?
BTW, don't you have an appointment to kiss BO's butt just now?
20 posted on 10/13/2013 11:16:50 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: longfellow

Can’t say it any better without being banned. We let the ‘media’ pick the candidate back then..and this is what we end up with. The only thing he ever did right was bring Palin on to the ticket. Then we let ‘the media’ and GOPe pick the guy that LOST to McCain to run next. The Left wants to get rid of the GOP but senile idiots like this are doing it FOR them.


21 posted on 10/13/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: longfellow

Friggin Turncoat!


22 posted on 10/13/2013 11:18:36 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw it, made me nauseous. His disdain for Cruz was very evident.


23 posted on 10/13/2013 11:19:43 AM PDT by slipper (The best is yet to come)
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt warned us.


24 posted on 10/13/2013 11:20:33 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Juan McCain is a disloyal SOB. The once great POW has turned against his American people. I wonder who got to him. Soros?


25 posted on 10/13/2013 11:21:03 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Government says we need more surveillance of phones and e-mail to be secure.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would still like to know what Juan McCain told the VC in Hanoi Hilton.


26 posted on 10/13/2013 11:21:44 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would somebody please tell this fool to shut up. He still doesn’t realize why he lost the election to Obama. If he’d shut up long enough to see the damage he’s doing to the cause, he might smarten up enough to be viable.


27 posted on 10/13/2013 11:22:49 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain, kicking and screaming as he slides into irrelevance.

FUJM.

28 posted on 10/13/2013 11:23:45 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

You'd think by now someone would've taken Juan aside and told him to STFU!

29 posted on 10/13/2013 11:24:12 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John, your Goldwater days are gone. Buh Bye.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 11:24:23 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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31 posted on 10/13/2013 11:27:07 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain wanted to get 100’s of Americans killed for his House of Saudi buddies in Syria. He must be held accountable for that.


32 posted on 10/13/2013 11:27:41 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Arizona needs to 1) recall him if they have that power or 2) do not elect him again. What a disgrace.


33 posted on 10/13/2013 11:29:02 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say we hold them accountable by voting for them, donating money to their campaigns, and campaigning against the people who weren’t behind the Obamacare shutdown. I also say we boycott Arizona until they dump McCain.


34 posted on 10/13/2013 11:29:17 AM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes they will be held accountable. They will be promptly returned to Washington next election.


35 posted on 10/13/2013 11:29:20 AM PDT by MCF
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To: Rappini

I don’t want to know what he told them, I just want to know how much it would have cost us for them to KEEP him.


36 posted on 10/13/2013 11:29:29 AM PDT by madison10
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To: martin_fierro

I feel the same way. Sarah got me excited and I overlooked too many things. Today, I try to rationalize it as a vote against Obama.


37 posted on 10/13/2013 11:30:25 AM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am so tryin’ not to loose some filthy words at this total ass traitor.

I think I will stop now. I hate him.


38 posted on 10/13/2013 11:30:55 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John “Collaborator” McCain spews his crap again!


39 posted on 10/13/2013 11:31:34 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

mclame needs a competency hearing


40 posted on 10/13/2013 11:32:15 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with the Vietnamese punching bag. The Tea Party-types need to be held accountable, by rewarding them with the Presidency and control of Congress.


41 posted on 10/13/2013 11:32:50 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I voted in 08’ I threw up in my mouth. I didn’t like McCain but thought Palin could be his “Cheney” and steer him mostly right.

Since the days leading up to the election I became convinced that he did not want to win and I think it was the GOP intention all along.

The GOP seriously needs a good fumigation.


42 posted on 10/13/2013 11:33:48 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Sen. McCain

From one Vet to another. Your service for this country is no longer needed.


43 posted on 10/13/2013 11:36:47 AM PDT by darkwing104 (DonÂ’t take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John McCain, you are disgusting, rotten, piss poor, useless traitorous piece of sh!t.


44 posted on 10/13/2013 11:37:29 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used to preface my remarks about McCain with thanks for his heroism, etc.

No more.

Now I just am hating the guy and everything he says.


45 posted on 10/13/2013 11:37:46 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The NVA didn't aim well enough.

Please forgive me Lord.

5.56mm

46 posted on 10/13/2013 11:39:17 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I despise this man every bit as much as I despise Obama, Reid & Pelosi.


47 posted on 10/13/2013 11:42:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: scbison

McCain is holding on to a very slim Reid.


48 posted on 10/13/2013 11:45:48 AM PDT by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: longfellow

McCain is a traitor to Americans and it’s time for Sarah Palin to denounce him.


49 posted on 10/13/2013 11:48:26 AM PDT by Florida native
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The day McCain is gone from the senate will be almost as joyous as the day Ted Kennedy was no longer there to continue their carnage in our government.


50 posted on 10/13/2013 11:49:06 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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