Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Republican civil war is just getting started
Yahoo! News / The Week ^ | October 18, 2013 | Jon Terbush

Posted on 10/18/2013 9:03:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The future of the GOP?

With the government shutdown and debt ceiling fight in the rearview mirror, Republicans can move on to more important matters — like determining which of the party's warring factions will control the GOP going forward.

The recent fiscal fist-fighting ostensibly pit Republicans against Democrats, but the real power struggle was between Tea Partiers and the GOP establishment. The conflict, bubbling beneath the surface for some time, finally boiled over into a messy public spat that, even as the shutdown came to a close, showed no signs of stopping.

The fissure has been growing since 2010, when the Tea Party ousted establishment candidates in favor of their own contenders. What was then a populist revolt has since rocketed congressional neophytes like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to the forefront of the party's ideological and tactical debates, giving the hard right newfound legislative muscle. Just look at how Cruz and company dragged the party into a shutdown strategy that even Karl Rove said "no sentient being" believed would ever work.

As the shutdown came to a close Wednesday night, Cruz seized the microphone to mourn his failed strategy — and to once again lash out at his colleagues. In a bold display of hubris, he accused his fellow Republican senators of spoiling his gambit by "bombing our own troops."

Moderate establishment types struck back. Perhaps the oldest of the old guard, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — who called Cruz and his cohorts "wacko birds" earlier this year, and who criticized the shutdown tactic from the start — took a victory lap on Twitter.....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz; gopcivilwar; mccain; teaparty; tedcruz; texas
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-58 next last

1 posted on 10/18/2013 9:03:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Republican civil war is just getting started

Is part of the democrats strategy?

2 posted on 10/18/2013 9:10:36 PM PDT by doc1019
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a bold display of hubris, he accused his fellow Republican senators of spoiling his gambit by “bombing our own troops.”

THAT was a bold display of hubris? Have these retards heard the crapola from the likes of Boxer, Reid, Obama, McLame, King?

Cruz scares these people worse than Reagan did.


3 posted on 10/18/2013 9:10:55 PM PDT by Viennacon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Karl Rove said “no sentient being” believed would ever work”

What would Rove know of sentient beings? Ha! Santa, put a mirror under Rove’s tree this year.


4 posted on 10/18/2013 9:11:54 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“like determining which of the party’s warring factions will control the GOP going forward.”

I don’t consider it a war, I consider it more of an emancipation proclamation being given to the GOP by true Conservatives.


5 posted on 10/18/2013 9:12:02 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

There will be no hope for the country, unless the Tea Party types take over and control the Republican Party. Sadly, there is not much hope of that happening. Unfortunately, a third party would be another disaster. Even sadder, I am afraid that the USA will be the USSA, in a Communist winter for many years.


6 posted on 10/18/2013 9:16:58 PM PDT by AlexW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AlexW
Business is backing the moderate wing of the party....they want their cheap labor (which isn't very cheap for us taxpayers). Business Groups Preparing to Fight Conservatives over Immigration
7 posted on 10/18/2013 9:21:20 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just filled my car with $2.95 gas!

If we’d started a war in Syria like the “grownups” wanted, it would be $5.95.

Sit back and watch the establishment GOP slime the tea partiers as “isolationists” and anti-semites.


8 posted on 10/18/2013 9:23:48 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Girlene

“they want their cheap labor”
_____________________________________________
I am not buying that. Yes, some of business may be in need of cheap labor, but most of that is already lost to imports.
Even if they get some cheap Mexican labor in residence, how long can it last? Unions will be on them like stink on you know what.
Businesses that need cheap labor should lobby for guest worker programs, not open boarders.


9 posted on 10/18/2013 9:44:40 PM PDT by AlexW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “war” will be between the elitist RINO faction on one side (with almost no invested constituency beyond the monied country club, especially true in winnable red states)and the rank-and-file conservatives, values voters, tea party activists, and many libertarians on the other side.

The Republican Party is just a very small elitist group that believes in “accommodation” the way Karensky and Dubcek thought it was possible to coexist with communists. The sooner the Republican Party is rendered entirely defunct the better.

Karensky and Dubcek lost. The freedom fighters bent on destroying the Bolsheviks won. And they will win again because communism fails—absolutely.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 9:47:41 PM PDT by PaleoBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
At some point, the GOP, for its own sake, will have to reconcile those competing visions for the party, represented respectively by the "suicide caucus" and the "surrender caucus."

The unvoiced assumption in this formulation is that to fight is to lose. Hence the "fighting caucus" is labeled the "suicide caucus". If to fight is to lose, then why not preemptively surrender? That's the inescapable logic of the Republican Elites, aka the Fascist enabler caucus for whom no fight is worth the effort.

What good are they if this is their attitude? Every fight worth fighting is worth fighting to win, and no fight worth winning comes with a guaranteed outcome.

These phony Washington GOP leeches, sucking as they do at the leftover drips of the Democrat teat, will never be any good to the upright, self-reliant American man and woman. They need to be drummed out in disgrace.

11 posted on 10/18/2013 9:51:37 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PaleoBob

That’s Kerensky. Alexander Kerensky. I’m proud to have shaken his hand, as a matter of fact.


12 posted on 10/18/2013 9:53:00 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Here's the passage at issue:
In the 1980s, the war caucus in Congress armed bin Laden and the mujaheddin in their fight with the Soviet Union. In fact, it was the official position of the State Department to support radical jihad against the Soviets. We all know how well that worked out.
Let's leave aside for now the insulting, utterly asinine, sickening, inexcusable use of the phrase "war caucus" to describe those (including Reagan!) who supported the mujaheddin against the Soviets. That word choice alone is almost entirely disqualifying for its purveyor to ever be president.

Instead, let's just look at a little history here -- because the ignorance evident in this paragraph is truly astonishing. One would be hard pressed to find even a single historian, whether right, left, or center, who would argue anything other than that the Soviet failure in Afghanistan was not just a huge factor, but probably an essential one, in the Soviets' ultimate loss of the Cold War.
[Rand Paul’s Really Ignorant Paragraph | 7 Feb 2013]

13 posted on 10/18/2013 9:54:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]


14 posted on 10/18/2013 9:54:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]


15 posted on 10/18/2013 9:54:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This author seems to assume the GOP should lose, whether by surrender or by “suicide”.... some how those are the only two options?


16 posted on 10/18/2013 9:55:16 PM PDT by GeronL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PaleoBob

Oh, and your version of history ain’t quite right. Kerensky lost, yes, but not because he was too accommodating to the Bolsheviki. He lost because the Army and Navy collapsed.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 9:56:23 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Again, I like seeing this kind of reportage on Yahoo news, where many low-information types get their news. After all, it was the upstart Obama who tore up the annointed Hillary’s campaign and captured the support of the youth who identified with the “outsider” and ignored what the political gurus had ordained.

There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters floating around out there looking for a candidate they can support.


18 posted on 10/18/2013 9:57:39 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends





Please Make Your Donations Tonight or Tomorrow for sure!


You Can Help Drastically Shorten FReepathons by Donating Monthly!
VERY Generous FReeper Sponsors are donating $10 for every New Monthly Donor!
Please Sign Up to Donate Monthly!

19 posted on 10/18/2013 10:05:56 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
I cut loose those dickless wimps in the GOP establishment after several decades of being patronized, marginalized and villainized.

No More!

I am a registered Conservative and I support guys like Ted Cruz. No more appeasers - Reagan wasn't an appeaser and he took the blows. He brought us back from irrelevance to power after the disastrous Carter Admin and took the same kind of hazing that every Conservative who comes to the fore suffers.

Time to consign the Republican Party to the dustbin of History - they couldn't govern when they had majorities in both houses. Enough of them. Lets bring on some guys and gals who love and believe in America for a change, and will fight for her the same way our Troops in the battlefield do!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

20 posted on 10/18/2013 10:06:30 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AlexW
I am not buying that. Yes, some of business may be in need of cheap labor, but most of that is already lost to imports.

The service industry--hotels, restaurants, fast food places, retail stores, etc., agriculture, and the construction industry--use low skill labor. The more you have the more you can depress wages. It has nothing to do with imports.

Even if they get some cheap Mexican labor in residence, how long can it last? Unions will be on them like stink on you know what.

LOL. The unions have signed on to the Gang of 8 deal that will bring in tens of millions of workers over the next decade. They see it as a way to increase their membership. The union leaders are working closely with Obama. Once the demographic balance has shifted permanently to the Dems, they can get the political changes they need to bring them back in power.

Watch and listen to what SEIU International Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina had to say in 2009 about amnesty

And the Chamber of Commerce supports amnesty as well.

Businesses that need cheap labor should lobby for guest worker programs, not open boarders.

They are. The GOP and their corporate paymasters want to double the size of the guest worker program that will bring in more white collar workers to take American jobs. It is part of the Gang of 8 bill that passed the Senate. And the House Judiciary committee has already passed a STEM bill to bring in more scientists, engineers, computer programmers, etc.

Senate Bill Doubles Annual Flow of Guest Workers

21 posted on 10/18/2013 10:07:03 PM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: John Valentine

Well stated. Concise, clear and correct.


22 posted on 10/18/2013 10:15:43 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

Even if it was, do you care? Is this not a fight worth having? I don’t know about you but I’m tired of wanna-be armchair grand chess masters obsessing over Soros-inspired/funded left-wing media democrat plots when we need to be getting down and dirty and playing checkers with the GOPe. The future of this country is not Republican vs. Democrat. It’s Tea Party vs. Republican Party. In my mind, primarying a RINO just to have a Democrat win is a victory for us.


23 posted on 10/18/2013 10:21:15 PM PDT by JPX2011
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JPX2011

For all intents and purpose, the GOPe and the Democratic Party are one in the same.

That’s why all this talk about a third party is ridiculous...We need a second party, first.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 10:22:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: doc1019
Is part of the democrats strategy?

Don't really care if it is or not.

It is unimportant.

What is important, is clearing out the dead-weight "Moderates" in the GOP, getting rid of the Traitorous Collaborators and replacing replacing them and the Leadership (but I repeat myself) with Tea-Party statesmen that will actually represent the voting base.
25 posted on 10/18/2013 10:23:25 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wasn’t the original strategy of the Tea Party to run as Republicans?

I seem to recall that the pre-2010 Tea Party chose not to form into a separate party, since that would guarantee failure by splitting the conservative vote and giving the future to the Democratic-Socialists.

So, to avoid that Third Party Curse, the Tea Partiers ran as Republicans. After all, Republicans stand for lower taxes, less government and more liberty, right? Well they did once, anyway.

Seems the earlier strategy actually worked. The Tea Party has made inroads into the GOP camp and now the GOP wants them out of the tent.

Uhhh ... no, sorry, we’re not leaving. In fact, that stuff about lower taxes and all sounds pretty good right about now. Yeah, it sounds rather nice...


26 posted on 10/18/2013 10:25:39 PM PDT by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JPX2011

As ever the optimist I agree ... it is time for a third party, and the tea party is the way to go.


27 posted on 10/18/2013 10:25:49 PM PDT by doc1019
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

Um, nothing new. Goldwater ring a bell?


28 posted on 10/18/2013 10:26:04 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Republican civil war is just getting started

I hope so. And I know what side I'm on - - the side that doesn't consort with the scumbag Democrats.

29 posted on 10/18/2013 10:26:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Wholeheartedly agree. This is a civil war and it’s going to be bloody. This has been a long time coming since the days of Goldwater and Rockefeller.


30 posted on 10/18/2013 10:27:11 PM PDT by JPX2011
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

LOL! At least one of us is.


31 posted on 10/18/2013 10:28:36 PM PDT by JPX2011
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: kabar

“The unions have signed on to the Gang of 8 deal “
______________________________________
You have made my main point. The Mexicans will no longer be CHEAP labor.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 10:41:25 PM PDT by AlexW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: doc1019

“it is time for a third party, and the tea party is the way to go.

________________________________________
How many Dimocraps do you expect to see voting for a Tea Party candidate?


33 posted on 10/18/2013 10:46:52 PM PDT by AlexW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

That CR surrender was of 100 million barrels of pork each worth 17 billlion $$$. And that’s the way it should be presented by conservatives. Any so called Republican who voted for this os a pig...


34 posted on 10/18/2013 10:47:28 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ConorMacNessa
they couldn't govern when they had majorities in both houses.

Well said.

Put the Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street Journal, Republican establishment back into majority power and we will have eight more years of George Bush under a different name.

It is no accident that George Bush was hopeless on immigration and it is no accident that the next big battle will be over immigration. Look to see the establishment Republican party work treacherously with Obama to achieve amnesty and thus spell the end of any hope of conservative governance.


35 posted on 10/18/2013 10:50:13 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: PaleoBob

“The “war” will be between the elitist RINO faction on one side (with almost no invested constituency beyond the monied country club, especially true in winnable red states)and the rank-and-file conservatives, values voters, tea party activists, and many libertarians on the other side.”

Two of those things are not like the others. You figure out which ones.


36 posted on 10/18/2013 10:57:15 PM PDT by Mtner77
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take the Sarah Cruz Freedom party any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


37 posted on 10/18/2013 11:01:11 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford
You nailed it! Why on earth is any "Republican" supporting immigration "reform?" How about enforcing existing laws as the oath of office requires?

Guess that's not politically correct. Patrick Henry wasn't politically correct, and neither am I!

My ancestors came here legally, through great peril and helped build this Nation. The tide overwhelming us now comes illegally and assists the Leftists seeking to destroy this Nation.



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

38 posted on 10/18/2013 11:01:33 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: AlexW
Even sadder, I am afraid that the USA will be the USSA, in a Communist winter for many years.

Thomas Sowell said some months back that he felt that the march toward socialism was unstoppable without revolution and that he felt that would not happen. I don't see it happening either unless we have a complete financial collapse which is not all that unlikely.

39 posted on 10/19/2013 12:22:21 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford
Look to see the establishment Republican party work treacherously with Obama to achieve amnesty and thus spell the end of any hope of conservative governance.

Yep. Easier to import voters than persuade Americans that Socialism is good for us.

Sooner or later we will have to admit that the Republicans are not just stupid, they are complicit in the destruction of the American Constitution, and establishment of an oligarchy.

40 posted on 10/19/2013 12:39:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Re: “The fissure has been growing since 2010”

Wrong - the fissure has been growing for 25 years.

Internal warfare began to openly simmer when G.H.W. Bush broke his “No new taxes” pledge around 1990.

The Newt Gingrich implosion/betrayal from 1996-2002 added gasoline to the fire.

In that same time period, both “National Review” and the “WSJ” editorial page, at one time the intellectual leaders of the Conservative movement, began moving to the Center under the guidance of Rich Lowry at NR and Paul Gigot and David Brooks at WSJ.

Bloody, unabashed political warfare began around 2005-2006, when George W. Bush nominated Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court and then partnered with John McCain trying to push Amnesty down Conservative throats.

Today, after Marco Rubio’s Amnesty, after our passive acceptance of ObamaCare and gay marriage, and after relentless attacks from RINO’s and GOP elites, this old boy is looking for a new political party.

41 posted on 10/19/2013 1:23:22 AM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John Valentine

I had no idea Kerensky survived the purges.

Died in New York City, 1970, almost 90 years old.

Where and when did you shake his hand?


42 posted on 10/19/2013 1:43:14 AM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen

Actually, it pre-dates even that.

It goes clear back to when Reagan ran for POTUS in ‘80. Even back then, the Rockafeller Republicans were trying to out conservatives from the party.

Reagan told them to go pound sand - and won.

Remember, Geo. H.W. Bush was campaigning for POTUS back then, too. Reagan chose him as Veep to mollify the country club/Ivy League set.


43 posted on 10/19/2013 1:45:43 AM PDT by NVDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen
Where and when did you shake his hand?

1959, Syracuse, New York, after a very interesting talk at LeMoyne College.

44 posted on 10/19/2013 2:27:40 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: John Valentine; PaleoBob
Well, more accurately, he lost because he kept Russia in World War I and was responsible for one last, disastrous campaign against the Germans, at the behest of the French and British.

I like Kerensky too, but he completely underestimated the threat that Lenin and the Bolsheviks posed to his government, and when the October Revolution came, he had no clue about how to deal with them.

45 posted on 10/19/2013 3:07:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Girlene

For corporations surrender to the forces of amnesty is merely wealth redistribution under a different guise.


46 posted on 10/19/2013 3:19:10 AM PDT by monocle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Timber Rattler
...when the October Revolution came, he had no clue about how to deal with them.

This is true. He himself readily admitted that was the case. Just like at least half of the American population completely misses the Obama agenda.

47 posted on 10/19/2013 4:35:01 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen

The GOP needs to be torn down and from its ashes build a new, conservative party. If it means losing the house in 2014,so be it. A major realignment is the only long term solution for the future of conservatism. Compromise and harmony with the moderates and inside the beltway Republicans is a recipe for failure.


48 posted on 10/19/2013 4:40:02 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: AlexW
You have made my main point. The Mexicans will no longer be CHEAP labor.

Of course they will along with many Americans. When you have 22 million Americans unemployed or underemployed and you bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, most of them low skilled and uneducated, and you add in hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens entering annually, you have a surplus of labor, which vastly exceeds demand. Real wages will continue to go down as they have since 1969.

With only 7% of the private sector unionized, the influence and power of unions (except in the public sector) are declining. Only when the Dems become the permanent majority party will you see an expansion of unions.

49 posted on 10/19/2013 6:47:23 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: monocle

Yes it is.


50 posted on 10/19/2013 9:08:19 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-58 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson