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When moderates fight back: GOP civil war could be brutal in 2014 elections
CNN ^ | November 7, 2013 | Leigh Ann Caldwell

Posted on 11/07/2013 5:08:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

There's a fight brewing and it could get ugly.

In one corner is the Republican Party. And in the other ... the Republican Party.

The stakes could not be higher. The GOP has failed to get a majority of Americans to vote for its presidential candidates in five of the last six elections. And Tuesday night's gubernatorial races -- a win in New Jersey and loss in Virginia -- sent confusing signals, at best, about where the party is headed.

The fight spilled out into the open in a race for Alabama's 1st Congressional District, with two Republicans the face of the party's internal civil war.

Establishment-backed Bradley Byrne beat tea party candidate Dean Young in Tuesday's bitter primary.

The Alabama race could be just a sample of what may come, and the battle within the GOP may get much more intense leading up to the 2014 elections.

That's because some Republicans -- especially what's left of the moderate wing -- don't want a repeat of the 2010 and 2012 elections. The GOP first regained control of the House of Representatives in 2010 and maintained its control two years later.

Confused? Let's explain....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Alabama; New Jersey; Ohio; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrischristie; gop; gopcivilwar; krispykreme; rinos; teaparty
Funny how you almost never see a story like this about the Democrats. Am I to believe that there's been no dissension in the ranks there since Andrew Jackson?
1 posted on 11/07/2013 5:08:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's because some Republicans -- especially what's left of the moderate wing -- don't want a repeat of the 2010 and 2012 elections

That's funny, the RINOEs ran moderates in 2012 and the Tea Party voted out so many Dems in 2010 that theHouse went Republican majority.

I swear these idiots can't even remember back 3 years.

2 posted on 11/07/2013 5:14:57 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our opposition, in the GOP or Democrat party, lie more and better than we do. This is a unifying theme from Alabama and Virginia Tuesday.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 5:19:55 PM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moderate republicans = bigger government, higher taxes, more gun control, making illegals legal,..etc

Why do I really care about them? Who are THEIR base? Democrat lites?

Fight them ALL day long.


4 posted on 11/07/2013 5:21:51 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reporter writes “The GOP has failed to get a majority of Americans to vote for its presidential candidates in five of the last six elections.” Of course, she conveniently omits the fact that Bill Clinton had only a PLURALITY in his two victories and that Al Gore did NOT have a majority but merely a plurality when he lost to Bush in 2000. So in the past six elections only Obama (twice) and Bush (once) garnered a MAJORITY of votes.

And the same tripe is seen in the analysis of the Virginia election, omitting the large percentage of votes which went to the faux-Libertarian.


5 posted on 11/07/2013 5:24:01 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: american_ranger

“I swear these idiots can’t even remember back 3 years. “

No, more like Winston Smith’s job in 1984, rewriting history. He who controls the past controls the future and all that. Nothing ‘idiotic’ at all about it.

A cranky .02


6 posted on 11/07/2013 5:25:52 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good reporting CNN! /s

Whichever conservative diplomatically tells people to think for themselves and ignore WaPo, NYT, CNN, NBC, et al., wins.


7 posted on 11/07/2013 5:26:36 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: american_ranger

Civil Wars can be fun, esp. if you fight them in the right way.

Some RINOs have to go, period. (Oh, didn’t Obama say “period” too)?

The key point is for the Tea Party movement (it is not one big party, but many organizations and an amorphous movement so far) to pick the fights it can win and not waste ammo on those it can’t.

That it the tricky line the Conservative movement must walk, and walk carefully.

Then it will be time to take on the Demonrats in another civil war that will make 1860-65 seem like a childrens’ sandbox fight, because, like the Civil War, it will be for the soul and unity of America (or to prevent the United Socialist States of America).

Time to start the strategy sessions and targetting. We can shoot a little later (as the Swamp Fox and the Green Mountain boys did so successfully).


8 posted on 11/07/2013 5:31:11 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The GOP has already chose Democrat-lite

Conservatives have an uphill fight.


9 posted on 11/07/2013 5:32:22 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As far as I’m concerned, the Republicans formed their own third party. There’s them, the demoncrats, and the rest of us. The republicans used to represent “the rest of us.” Now they don’t. I could care less if they become a footnote in history.


10 posted on 11/07/2013 5:34:25 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we have to lose some elections to KILL this parasitic class of consultants, led by LaTourettes, and his cadre of crony capitalists at the Chamber of Commerce, who have helped run up the debt through their own favors, then so be it.

They poured in thousands of dollars to help their toad in Alabama, and we were not prepared for it. In 2014, we will be. Time to snap the Democrat wing of the GOP for good. Shred ‘em!


11 posted on 11/07/2013 5:34:55 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: american_ranger

The senate is drunk on power and consumed with greed. They don’t see us. They don’t hear us.


12 posted on 11/07/2013 5:43:45 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

“The republicans used to represent “the rest of us.”

But did they really? I’m convinced we’ve been being played for a long time.


13 posted on 11/07/2013 5:44:08 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In 2000 the gop had the senate, the house and the white house. But you’d never know it.


14 posted on 11/07/2013 6:10:28 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

Bring it!

Oldplayer


15 posted on 11/07/2013 6:19:48 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Post of the Century!!!!


16 posted on 11/07/2013 6:24:47 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In one corner, Conservatives- in the other corner Democrats posing as Republicans.


17 posted on 11/07/2013 6:24:56 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: 2banana

Democrats not even Lite, just Democrats.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 6:26:01 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Viennacon

That Alabama loss was hard, and was the first shot from the other side. But u R right, we r preparing. And when push comes to shove it will b interesting to see how the guy votes on tough issues, Alabama is very conservative.


19 posted on 11/07/2013 6:28:06 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: demshateGod
“The republicans used to represent “the rest of us.”
But did they really? I’m convinced we’ve been being played for a long time.

I don't know how old you are, but I've been involved in the republican party for a really long time, pre-Reagan. Reagan was the TouchStone. Everything we were was embodied in Reagan and we got him in the Whitehouse. It's been a descent into the gutter since then.

20 posted on 11/07/2013 6:45:14 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: yellowdoghunter

We won’t win them all. But we will win our fair share. And as long as we stand on our principles we will win in the end.


21 posted on 11/07/2013 7:03:34 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Funny how you almost never see a story like this about the Democrats. Am I to believe that there's been no dissension in the ranks there since Andrew Jackson?

The difference is that Democrats all pull the same rope when it comes to winning elections/issues. They don't "fragment" until the previous unified front causes them problems. They all knew that Cruz, Lee and company were correct, but held together until the pretty much won the issue, then those affected decided to start clean up actions.

Their voters do the same thing - burn them a thousand times and they still vote for the Dems who burned them.

We fragment early and often and keep giving them elections because "the lesser of two evils is not a choice even if it means what is happening right now with a second Obama term - we have long-range dreams and short term schizophrenia - the long term can't happen if you keep killing your short term chances.

22 posted on 11/08/2013 3:50:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to mention the real CW that ‘ll happen if the dim bulbs cheat their way into a majority through illegal mexicrat votes.


23 posted on 11/08/2013 3:04:58 PM PST by Da Coyote
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