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Dems: Christie can be beaten
The Hill's Ballot Box ^ | November 11, 2013 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:26:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats insist they can thwart Chris Christie (R) if he seeks the White House in 2016, despite the broad appeal he showed in winning reelection last week.

Even though the New Jersey governor secured more than 60 percent of the votes against state Sen. Barbara Buono (D), Democratic strategists in the Garden State and beyond believe he has vulnerabilities they could exploit in a national election.

Above all, they assert that Christie’s famously combative style could result in a loss of self-control during the heat of a presidential campaign.

Steve Elmendorf, who served as deputy campaign manager for then-Sen. John Kerry’s 2004 presidential bid, said Christie has “a conflict between appearing authentic and becoming unhinged.”

“People like the fact that he gets angry and yells at people sometimes. But they don’t want their next president to be unhinged.”

Christie’s combative tendencies were on display during the gubernatorial campaign, and his supporters point out that they did not do him much harm.

It was widely reported that the governor told a female public school teacher who criticized him at a campaign stop, “I’m tired of you people.” A photo of Christie jabbing his finger at the teacher went viral on social media.

Christie denied using the words reported but did not dispute that it was a tense exchange. By his account, the woman asked him why he referred to public schools as “failure factories,” and he replied, “Because they are.” He also insisted, “What I said was, ‘It’s never enough for you people. No matter how much money I give, it’s never enough for you people.’”(continued)

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TOPICS: New Jersey; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016gopprimary; barbarabuono; chrischristie; christie2016; finos; krispykreme; newjersey; unions
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So they're already doing major opposition research on Krispy Kreme?
1 posted on 11/11/2013 5:26:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tea Party responds:

Hillary can be beaten.
No Oppo research necessary.
Just tell the truth about her.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:27 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course he can be beaten. That’s why they want him...


3 posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:38 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much as I hate to admit it, he’s the likely nominee in ‘16. Still, that’s a long way away...things could change.


4 posted on 11/11/2013 5:29:02 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Krispy WILL be beaten if he gets the nom. Squishy R's always lose.
5 posted on 11/11/2013 5:29:14 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Kip Russell

If Conservtives/Tea Party can focus on ONE candidate to avoid splitting the early primary vote, we can defeat Crispy the Liberal.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 5:31:28 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet O’Reilly is right now pimping Krispy.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 5:31:41 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: demshateGod
I certainly won't be voting for him.

/johnny

8 posted on 11/11/2013 5:31:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: demshateGod
Krispy WILL be beaten if he gets the nom. Squishy R's always lose.

Yes, conservatives will probably just stay home.

9 posted on 11/11/2013 5:32:32 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they’re already doing major opposition research on Krispy Kreme?

Romney was going to ask him for VP slot... He picked Ryan instead... I wonder WHY?????


10 posted on 11/11/2013 5:33:22 PM PST by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, they are, and Christie is under the impression that all he has to do is withstand their fat jokes.

He’s in for a huge comeuppance, I’m afraid, because the “unhinged” comment is just a sample of the treatment coming his way.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 5:34:55 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: neodad

We have a winner


12 posted on 11/11/2013 5:34:55 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: GraceG

I guarantee it wasn’t just the weight. We’ve had big presidents before and so have other countries.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 5:35:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: Kip Russell

I’m a tad bit smaller than he is but a little older. I could go any day from a heart attack or stroke and so could he.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 5:36:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: Kip Russell

I’ll be here at home watching to see how that turns out for them.


15 posted on 11/11/2013 5:37:47 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Mark17

I’ll stay home. I will not vote for Krispy or Jeb... or that scumbag Peter King (as if he has a 0.00001% chance)


16 posted on 11/11/2013 5:37:54 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can’t imagine a scenario where I would vote for Christie either.

Of course, by the time the primaries get to WA state, the decision has already been made for me....at least re nominee.

I just don’t think I can stomach one more of these squishy R’s. It would so nice if we could have a real conservative get the nomination. I will be working for any real conservative who sets up an office here in WA.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 5:38:27 PM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the goal here should be to identify a good candidate the Tea Party can support and get that person through the primaries.

Last time the wide field spread out support and allowed Mittens to sneak in to the nomination. If we let Christie get to the general election we’ve lost.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 5:38:39 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: demshateGod
Squishy R's always lose.

Bush wasn't squishy?

19 posted on 11/11/2013 5:39:09 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GraceG

20 posted on 11/11/2013 5:39:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only anti-Hillary ad we need to run:

Video of her...
“What Difference, at this point, does it make?”

followed by this scrolling text and narrative woman’s voice-over:

Madame Secretary, the “difference” is THE TRUTH!
And, the American People deserve to know THE TRUTH, about;
1. Why the Ambassador and 3 other Americans died that night?
2. What the Ambassador was doing in Benghazi that night?
3. Why was there no effort to improve the Security in Benghazi, after repeated requests by the Ambassador?
4. Why there was no effort to defend, protect, or rescue the Ambassador that night?
5. Why were the teams who had prepared to deploy, to attempt a rescue, PROHIBITED from proceeding?
6. WHO Prohibited those teams from proceeding?
7. Who authorized the lie about the attack being a protest against a video?
8. Why did Susan Rice, President Obama, and YOU, Madame Secretary, continue to repeat that lie, for more than a week after you KNEW that was a LIE?


21 posted on 11/11/2013 5:40:05 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: driftdiver

We’ll have much better options this time. 2012 was bleak.

Already, FOX is behind Krispy Kreme 100%.


22 posted on 11/11/2013 5:40:35 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hell, a long flight of stairs could thwart Chris Christie.


23 posted on 11/11/2013 5:40:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: G Larry

“Just tell the truth about her.”

Sorry nobody cares about the truth of Hillary they are in love with the myth

Further Crispy would make Romneys run look like a triumphant victory.

I disliked Romney... I hate Crispy and I am not alone


24 posted on 11/11/2013 5:42:11 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Viennacon

Ah....the stay home tantrum....the perfect strategy to save America.....

Does it ever occur to you cry babies that there might not be a “next time” for your tantrum to “teach somebody a lesson”??


25 posted on 11/11/2013 5:43:31 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Viennacon

Noob Republican Bernie Goldberg is on OReally lecturing us “Conservative” hayseeds again. Turned it off.


26 posted on 11/11/2013 5:44:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: G Larry

That crap won’t work this time. There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between Fatso, Jeb or Hillary.


27 posted on 11/11/2013 5:44:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: G Larry

““What Difference, at this point, does it make?”

Nobody but us care about Bengazi it has no affect on their lives and it isn’t important like dancing with the stars or football or MTV or Ellen....


28 posted on 11/11/2013 5:45:06 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: G Larry

I pulled the level for the last two losers.

RINOS DO NOT WIN. If you want to be strung along by Rove and co, be my guest.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 5:45:25 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RINO’s can’t wait to “roll out” Christie as their candidate, literally.


30 posted on 11/11/2013 5:45:31 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RINO Establishment’s 2016 ringer for Hillary.


31 posted on 11/11/2013 5:46:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course Christie can be beaten. But so far, Democrats have had no reason to do so. He’s already helping their Party out better than any New Jersey Democrat ever could.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 5:46:46 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: driftdiver

Flip that photo horizontally, and you will have the number ‘10’.


33 posted on 11/11/2013 5:47:40 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Kip Russell

Bush wasn’t squishy?

No he was a big government guy that refused to defend himself no mater how much it hurt us and emboldened the left....

I pass on the Bush admiration.. Nice guy but no conservative and he wasted thousands of American lives... for what?


34 posted on 11/11/2013 5:48:10 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: central_va

“The Tea Party are the real RINOS! Only Christie can win!”

The chant has already started over at Rove News.

Too bad for them we’ve wised up to their presidential primary crap, and we’re ready for a knife-fight this time. The so-called ‘moderate wing’ of the party is about 28%. They usually only ever win by default when they destroy the other candidates with phony info (Huntsman’s antics), or there is not a real conservative challenger.


35 posted on 11/11/2013 5:48:23 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Hey, I’m Cruz, all the way.

I’m talking about “stay home” mentality, as though that’s a political strategy that helps America.

Don’t sit here and whine about who you won’t do anything for.

Get off of your butt and support the true conservative....NOW!!!


36 posted on 11/11/2013 5:49:06 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Viennacon

Bernie Goldberg on with BOR.

If I heard him right, he was trying to make a point that the Tea Party will stay home if they don’t get their candidate (mentioned Cruz) and that the majority of the Republicans will stay home if the candidate is too conservative (as in Cruz).

His point being that the Tea Party will help elect hillary by staying home if Christy is the nominee...said they’re being too rigid.


37 posted on 11/11/2013 5:50:28 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right he can be beaten. IN THE PRIMARIES!


38 posted on 11/11/2013 5:50:59 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: G Larry

I’m talking about if Christie wins the primary (which will only happen through real shenanigans), I will not waste my time voting for him in the general. He’s no worth the vote. Not a dime’s difference between him and Shitlery.

In the primary, I’ll be backing Ted Cruz (should he decide to run), and there are a couple of others I would be very happy to get behind should they end up the nominee.


39 posted on 11/11/2013 5:51:49 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

The pressure from the radical Obastard Admin has ripped the veneer off the Geriatric Old Party. The ONLY good thing to come from this obama-nation.


40 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:18 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Heart of Georgia

This is Bernie ‘homo marriage’ Goldberg. He knows nothing about conservatism.

The fact is, the majority of Republican voters out there are closer to Cruz on policy than they are to Krispy Kreme. Goldberg is in a minority of very wealthy hacks who never fail to lose, and have an overinflated opinion of themselves.

We failed to be rigid in 2008 and 2012. It ended in disaster because nobody turned out. If you don’t argue for conservatism, what’s the point?


41 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:20 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: newfreep


42 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Many on the left see faith & family as oppressive, the right sees them as indispensable." Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The mere sight of Bruce Springsteen brings Crispy to tears. He's an emotional butterball.

The machine will rip him to shreds.

43 posted on 11/11/2013 5:58:24 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t see any republican candidate who will be acceptable to all factions of the GOP. RINO’s like Christy will be rejected by the hard right, and very conservative candidates like Ted Cruz will be rejected by moderates and independents. Many republicans will stay home on election day and facilitate coronation of Hillary, just like Obama was helped in 2012.

There is no Ronald Reagan type available in 2016 to unite and inspire all factions. I think Hillary wins going away in 2016. ANother 8 years to endure of more degradation of the American way of life, more multiculturalism, more free stuff for the lazy, topped off by Hillarycare version of Obamacare.


44 posted on 11/11/2013 5:59:09 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect president Zero.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It won't matter. I refuse to vote for Christie. I also refuse to vote for any Bush that runs for office, along with any GOP-E candidate.

Give me Tea Party or give me Death.

45 posted on 11/11/2013 6:00:30 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll drink to that....but these daze I’ll drink to anything!


46 posted on 11/11/2013 6:01:14 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in Illinois (though I’m hoping to retire in 2016 and move the hell out of here), and there is no chance in hell of a Republican carrying this state in 2016, no matter who the Dims run. So, it makes no difference who I vote for, because the Dim will carry Illinois, and its electoral votes.

The last time a Republican carried Illinois was 1988 (25 years ago).


47 posted on 11/11/2013 6:02:55 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve come to the conclusion that Christie is not in it for the presidency per se. I mean if he takes off and becomes the nominee he’ll be okay with that. But if he’s lagging, or being dogged and laden by concerted innuendo, he’ll just as gladly bow out for a cabinet level position.

If there is a cosmic sense of humor, he would be selected for HHS.


48 posted on 11/11/2013 6:03:17 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Breto
Bush wasn't squishy?

I pass on the Bush admiration.. Nice guy but no conservative

In other words, he was squishy...and he won. Twice.

49 posted on 11/11/2013 6:04:08 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pAW4mntPM-w


50 posted on 11/11/2013 6:04:11 PM PST by bigheadfred
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